The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 5)

[emkee_reinvented]

I appreciated this description by Invert:

anyway, I'm not massively out of it, yet, just slowly and pleasantly on an upward curve of MDMA-like pleasure and a degree of vaguely 'psychedelic' generic brightening and shifty waviness of vision. Feel sedate, subjectively, in a way that's familiar to me from methylone and mdma; i.e. not objectively sedated, but the pleasure feels sedate, as it were. Not so mild as to be doubtable, as far as I'm concerned, but not so strong as to be overwhelming.

Me too, the emhasis on sedate especially. 6-APB is pleasurable sedating not unlike bk-MDMA. The stimulating parts of MDMA are lesser. So expect lying under a blanky listening to music.

Same for MDA, also felt more stimulating then 6-APB. MDAI, a purely serotonergic reminded me more of 6-APB. Though way shorter and even heavier on the SERT lacking any stimulant effects.

5-MAPB, meh. Not an improvement compared with MDMA and Methylone, my opinion.

 

[snmfmy]

I appreciated this description by Invert:

Me too, the emhasis on sedate especially. 6-APB is pleasurable sedating not unlike bk-MDMA. The stimulating parts of MDMA are lesser. So expect lying under a blanky listening to music.

Unless you take 150 or 160 mg dose and then it's going to get a little harsher and last a really long time and get really really trippy with geometric visuals. Open eye and closed.

Yeah that lasted me about 23 hours. I think the visuals kicked in at about hour 11 significantly. At that dose it's very very stimulating and definitely not like MDEA or methylone.

5-APB OTOH was the most unequivocally erotic, entactogenic, empathogenic, substance that I have ever taken and beats the living snot out of MDMA. Now I happen to take 400 mg instead of 200 mg because I was high already and I couldn't remember if I had dosed or not so I was like fuck it. It couldn't be that bad. So I ended up taking two 200 mg doses of five-APB within like a half-hour of each other.

The erotic pleasure euphoria and body high of this substance is insane. I swear. I actually lost consciousness several times from the euphoria. At one point I was laying on my bed completely naked and the breeze from the ceiling fan blowing across my nipples actually made me orgasm, and I'm a male.

The best thing about five APB to me is that it caused no residual body load or anything. Once the roll was over it was like okay I'm done back to regular life. There was also no tachyphilaxis after even five consecutive days of dosing which I really liked and you can't get away with that with MDMA.

 

[Pastel]

So you’re saying later batches weren’t as good right after dinner? Which batches were the better in terms of feeling?

-GC

Later batches from the famous Spanish vendor, which no longer exists were getting weaker between 2014 to 2018. They would take 60 to 90 minutes to kick in and consuming food seemed to slow down absorption. At least 180mg would be required which still would be less rolly and euphoric than 6-apb of prior years. They were of a lighter shade of tan have a milder scent than older batches, probably due to a solvent/purification process.

 

[Pastel]

Me too, the emhasis on sedate especially. 6-APB is pleasurable sedating not unlike bk-MDMA. The stimulating parts of MDMA are lesser. So expect lying under a blanky listening to music.

Interesting. I found dark brown 6-APBs acquired between 2011-2013 very pushy. We would always take them and go dancing for about 6 hours and then kill the trip with etizolam to fall asleep.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Interesting. I found 6-APBs acquired between 2011-2013 very pushy. We would always take them and go dancing for about 6 hours and then kill the trip with etizolam to fall asleep.

Whatcha age (no offence), I am 50. But feel like 97. LSD idem floors me, but when I was young I would be running around.

 

[Pastel]

Whatcha age (no offence), I am 50. But feel like 97. LSD idem floors me, but when I was young I would be running around.

I can't tell you my exact age for security reasons, but I am a bit older than you are. I have been exercising daily all my life which is probably the main reason for having energy. I would say the bigger drain are long working hours - I am a very senior professional. I know a few people who are in their seventies and still come to raves or do ballroom dancing. With the exception of 2011-2012 craziness when I took a sabbatical from work and through dating a burner woman discovered the whole RC scene, I roll only a few times a year. Last year has been particularly light, as I and my significant other skipped a festival that we usually go to. When I do go dancing or to music concerts, I mostly rely on BDO, which is extremely euphoric and heart-opening for me. Too bad that unlike with alcohol, I cannot socialize properly on it.
What I did become addicted to during my 2011-2012 RC immersion was reading about RCs on forums!

 

[PsychedelicSummer]

Why can't you socialize on BDO? I mean I do get sort of drunk and very euphoric on BDO, and that may be weird if among sober people who knows me. Especially if combined with psychedelics.

Anyhow, gonna buy me som new 6-APB soon. Have some old that wasn't very good - or I took too low dose and it was cut.

I was born in the 60's and empathogens do drain my energy much more than psychedelics nowadays.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Why can't you socialize on BDO? I mean I do get sort of drunk and very euphoric on BDO, and that may be weird if among sober people who knows me. Especially if combined with psychedelics.

Anyhow, gonna buy me som new 6-APB soon. Have some old that wasn't very good - or I took too low dose and it was cut.

I was born in the 60's and empathogens do drain my energy much more than psychedelics nowadays.

Back in the day my UK vendor gave me a freebie. A bag "BenzoFury" containing 2 6-APB pellet's 100 mg.
Maybe the pellet's were overdosed. But I have never been able to re-create that experience, using weighed powder. Not with 6-APB alone or combo's.

Never tried a higer dose though as I felt the Pellet's where a bit overwelming all ready. To me again flooring and they last quite a while. So you'd had to get a drink & pee and get up and then notice its subtle psychedelic effect's.

 

[G_Chem]

Back in the day my UK vendor gave me a freebie. A bag "BenzoFury" containing 2 6-APB pellet's 100 mg.
Maybe the pellet's were overdosed. But I have never been able to re-create that experience, using weighed powder. Not with 6-APB alone or combo's.

Never tried a higer dose though as I felt the Pellet's where a bit overwelming all ready. To me again flooring and they last quite a while. So you'd had to get a drink & pee and get up and then notice its subtle psychedelic effect's.

Reminds me of my first batch of 5-MAPB. Every batch since has paled in comparison. I still have a little and every time I take it I’m blown away. Down to my last 100mg tho so it’s being saved for the final experience. Maybe when I meet someone really special to share it with. (I like it best mixed with MDMA, so 100 is more than enough for 2.)

-GC

 

[Jmoda]

finally tried 6apb on its own and wow. For partying, this stuff might be my favorite. There were a few moments more towards the beginning where it was a tad bit sedating and tempered my dancing, but overall it had a push for me to just keep going.

5MAPB/mdma combo is absolutely great for dancing for me as well, but by the end I’m pretty ready to just go back home and chill out to music. 6apb had me ready to go all night at the afters. The trippy nature itself was also quite interesting and unique. Lots of of almost rainbow strobing halo effects off of people is the best way I can describe

This is easily one of my favs at this point

 

[Innerpeace]

Reminds me of my first batch of 5-MAPB. Every batch since has paled in comparison. I still have a little and every time I take it I’m blown away. Down to my last 100mg tho so it’s being saved for the final experience. Maybe when I meet someone really special to share it with. (I like it best mixed with MDMA, so 100 is more than enough for 2.)

-GC

Finished off last batch . 60 mgs then two hours later 32 mgs mal. Wasnt that strong, a tad psychedlic but much more serotonin and empathogic qualities. Top notch. Danced a lot.

 

[Innerpeace]

finally tried 6apb on its own and wow. For partying, this stuff might be my favorite. There were a few moments more towards the beginning where it was a tad bit sedating and tempered my dancing, but overall it had a push for me to just keep going.

5htp/mdma combo is absolutely great for dancing for me as well, but by the end I’m pretty ready to just go back home and chill out to music. 6apb had me ready to go all night at the afters. The trippy nature itself was also quite interesting and unique. Lots of of almost rainbow strobing halo effects off of people is the best way I can describe

This is easily one of my favs at this point

Yeah 6-apb last longer than mdma. When you think its over it hits you. For empathogenic quality I like mdma and 5 mapb better. 6-apb good for a night out. For a night in 5 mapb is better. Ive mixed 5mapb and 6 apb , on a night out-its okay but probally 6 apb may be better out.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Why can't you socialize on BDO? I mean I do get sort of drunk and very euphoric on BDO, and that may be weird if among sober people who knows me. Especially if combined with psychedelics.

Anyhow, gonna buy me som new 6-APB soon. Have some old that wasn't very good - or I took too low dose and it was cut.

I was born in the 60's and empathogens do drain my energy much more than psychedelics nowadays.

Well for me GHB and GBL. Which are pretty identical to 1.4-BDO. Socializing was just one of the effect's. Certainly didn't make me introvert. More then Alcohol it promoted socializing, even with drunk's as the difference is pretty small. Especially if everyone is on MDMA or Stimulantś to.

 

[grydgehugger]

I'll be partying for two days in a row shortly, likely using 6-apb at some point while also trying out 5-mapb for the first time - so looking for some feedback on potential strategies.

I've been using 6-apb for 10 years or so - it's my go-to party substance.

I've currently also got some 5-mapb - never used it before.

Am in 2 minds about which of these 2 options to go with for my weekend - bear in mind that Day 2 will be a longer day of music and revelry (12-14 hours vs. 7-8 hours on Day 1

Option A:
Day 1, small dose of 5-mapb (say 40mg) + some MDMA (not great quality) with potential redose of 5-mapb if effects not at all pronounced
Day 2, 6-apb only

I've used this MDMA the day before doing 6-apb before and still really enjoyed the 6-apb. Thoughts on the chances of the 5-mapb on Day 1 having a strong negative impact on Day 2? I've also used 6-apb twice in 3 days and enjoyed it.

Option B:
Day 1, MDMA with a potential E pill (low strength) if I need an energy boost
Day 2, small dose of 5-mapb, small redose after a couple of hours, then later in day some 6-apb to carry me through the night. Although if the 5-mapb is giving me enough dancing energy I could just stick to it.

 

[Jmoda]

I'll be partying for two days in a row shortly, likely using 6-apb at some point while also trying out 5-mapb for the first time - so looking for some feedback on potential strategies.

I've been using 6-apb for 10 years or so - it's my go-to party substance.

I've currently also got some 5-mapb - never used it before.

Am in 2 minds about which of these 2 options to go with for my weekend - bear in mind that Day 2 will be a longer day of music and revelry (12-14 hours vs. 7-8 hours on Day 1

Option A:
Day 1, small dose of 5-mapb (say 40mg) + some MDMA (not great quality) with potential redose of 5-mapb if effects not at all pronounced
Day 2, 6-apb only

I've used this MDMA the day before doing 6-apb before and still really enjoyed the 6-apb. Thoughts on the chances of the 5-mapb on Day 1 having a strong negative impact on Day 2? I've also used 6-apb twice in 3 days and enjoyed it.

Option B:
Day 1, MDMA with a potential E pill (low strength) if I need an energy boost
Day 2, small dose of 5-mapb, small redose after a couple of hours, then later in day some 6-apb to carry me through the night. Although if the 5-mapb is giving me enough dancing energy I could just stick to it.

For starters, I would warn against doing 5MAPB to start and then taking 5MAPB again later (1.5h+ after your first), this seems to have high potential to lead to disastrous results for whatever reason. Either stick to doing 5mapb then mdma, or mdma and then 5mapb.

I cannot personally speak to rolling two days in a row, except for the fact that when I go 5mapb+mdma, I feel that I certainly really drain my serotonin, that is to say, I’m not totally sure you are going to have enough to make the 6apb work as well? But I’ve never tried this so maybe just take it as similar caution to any, rolling two days in a roll situation.

If you had 6apb consecutively and were fine, then I’m not sure if the 5mapb should make a difference in that regard.

I’ll be feeling the movement this weekend.
I think my schedule will go:
Day 1: 2cb + g or k
Day 2: 6apb + g or k at end
Day 3: alcohol + k maybe light acid

 

[grydgehugger]

Great info - thanks. I’ve read conflicting reports re 5-mspb dosage (15-100mg which is quite a wide distribution) and also re-dosing - some do it regularly, some warn against.

Also curious about 2cb and its suitability for taking in a busy environment like a music festival - worth trying it as a Day 1 option ahead of either 5-Ampb or 6-apb on Day 2?

From a bit of reading it’s more trippy than empathogenic - so hesitant about doing it in public. Have been on AMT at festivals plenty of times, and it’s sctually another option for Day 1… I have some of that…

Decisions, decisions

 

[Jmoda]

Great info - thanks. I’ve read conflicting reports re 5-mspb dosage (15-100mg which is quite a wide distribution) and also re-dosing - some do it regularly, some warn against.

Also curious about 2cb and its suitability for taking in a busy environment like a music festival - worth trying it as a Day 1 option ahead of either 5-Ampb or 6-apb on Day 2?

From a bit of reading it’s more trippy than empathogenic - so hesitant about doing it in public. Have been on AMT at festivals plenty of times, and it’s sctually another option for Day 1… I have some of that…

Decisions, decisions

Depends on the 5mapb quality, but if pure and hcl the it’s 2x mdma potency. If pre-roll 40mg is a solid dose.

2cb works great for a music festival imo and it doesn’t seem to diminish the potency of other drugs if taken before. It’s become the official Day 1 substance for me every time

 

[Leprechaun]

Well, I just want to add my 2c to this.

130mg 6-apb on an empty stomach absolutely not something I would want to do in public. First 45 minutes resulted in nausea and vomiting. Lots of it. Feeling very weak and needing to lie down.

After 1hr recovered, beautiful psychedelic space, though not as profound as a pure psychedelic.

At 3 hrs added 14mg of 2c-b to truly hit the stars.

Highly recommended. Will do 100mg next time.

This is lie at home and soak up the good feelings type of experience.

Tested positive for 6-APB across numerous reagent tests.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

I can't tell you my exact age for security reasons, but I am a bit older than you are. I have been exercising daily all my life which is probably the main reason for having energy. I would say the bigger drain are long working hours - I am a very senior professional. I know a few people who are in their seventies and still come to raves or do ballroom dancing. With the exception of 2011-2012 craziness when I took a sabbatical from work and through dating a burner woman discovered the whole RC scene, I roll only a few times a year. Last year has been particularly light, as I and my significant other skipped a festival that we usually go to. When I do go dancing or to music concerts, I mostly rely on BDO, which is extremely euphoric and heart-opening for me. Too bad that unlike with alcohol, I cannot socialize properly on it.
What I did become addicted to during my 2011-2012 RC immersion was reading about RCs on forums!

Took it 1-st time at the point of life when i was running low, on emergency fuel.
Exhausted, malnutrition during a relocation of my fam.

Way later, so recent 2021, longterm exposure to external stressors, causing insomnia, bit back.
In form of seizures. Unexpected but after getting info about it, appeared a normal result.
So f*ck dr. s, their useless when push comes to shuff, if you notice them adding to the problem, better back off.

When youre way over the border of your capacitys [mental/ physical].
Getting back to where i am today, meanwhile others resuming stressing me still.
But lesson learned, no more seizure luckely.

Slowly started re-building myself mental/ physical, push myself to do it as anhedonia says NO.
So ignoring that atm. Feeling fit, but no way near where it was where i left off. But its my goal.

Pete & Bas [UK-Grime] are 70 +, energetic and bust bars blowing the young rappers away, high power 'FAN'.
So that gave hope, and when at a party. I dont need drugs anymore. If the music rolls, i go of my tits.
Surrounders might think he is crazy/ on drugs. But sober as i was born.

Danced way more energetic then when on XTC and or Speed, no more need. Drugs are catalysts, it the music that does the trick imo.

 

[Leprechaun]

i cant understand ppl dosing in the 200+mg range

I find 80mg 2x split 2-2.5 hrs has a good maybe psychedelic trip (synthnoids intensify the trippy effects 10x)

I weigh give or take 190 lbs

I recently took 110mg in a single drop and the comeup had me feeling like a zombie, i was rolling so hard i had to walk it off for 40 mins before entering the club, afterwards it was the extreme euphoria i've become used to, but that comeup was rough, it was a weird "cloudy feeling" I had some swirling and tracing visuals, and mad visual static (i typically have visual static anyway)

i think 150mg would knock my socks off, and i have tolerance

I took 130mg on an empty stomach. This was in no way something I would want to do in a public setting.

More intense come up than anything I have experienced in 20 years of experimenting.

If you’re taking 200mg I don’t think would be 6-APB honestly,