🌟🌟 Social 🌟🌟 PD Social Thread 2022-2025 v. Year of the Phenethylamine

[Pissed_and_messed]

I am somehow feeling pretty good about myself; relaxed and with soft touch to reality I am operating in. And it is not just the drugs. I am considering some kind of break from drugs, but it won't be particularly coherent break even if I tried. But I want to get some acid again to my stash and take it when it gets proper snowy. It is great surface for visuals, while not quite as stimulating as gravel. This tripping really improves my mental state.

 

[cosmic charlie]

Have any of you guys had this mushroom strain before they are called Jack Frost, im super curious about them and wonder about how the potency is going to be. They are pretty cheap so even if its that of regular cubes its fine by me. They look pretty cool right, ive never seen Psilocybin Mushrooms that look this way before personally...thinking about getting a half ounce so i can eat off these and my stash of L so i dont use up my more rare stuff.

 

[Delsyd]

With mushrooms becoming legalish I’ve been seeing alot of really funky interesting looking shrooms around.

 

[pharmakos]

I think it's finally time for the Shulgin idea of introducing synthetic tryptamines into the substrate of psilocybin producing mushrooms. Any tryptamine you put into it will be metabolized by the fungus into its 4-phosphoryloxy counterpart. I'm sure there's some cheap bulk unsubstituted synthetic tryptamine just waiting for someone to do this.

 

[cosmic charlie]

Just released another podcast and its a Q&A, people recorded questions and the he gives his response to to them. Lot of really intresting topics brought up. Gotta say when i see a new episode of his in my feed it really brightens my day, hope you all enjoy.

 

[perpetualdawn]

Man, Tusi is a really weird phenomenon. It actually got so popular in some places in South America that pretty mainstream "urban" musicians started singing about it in reggaeton songs.

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And although the whole thing is kinda interesting and funny, it really is some pretty shitty drug dealing strategy. I hate it actually, it represents all I feel is wrong with the drug market. Some weird cocktail of drugs being misrepresented as something else, a universe of buyers that don't really care what they are getting as long as they can get high off it, artists glorifying and romanticizing this shit, the absolute gamble that comes with buying something as unreliable as that... And also it angers me that people even think it's worth buying that shit, ketamine is extremely cheap in South America, and people are basically paying extra money to get it mixed with random stuff and cut to shit. The whole of it is stupid, I have ranted IRL for hours about it with friends, but no one seems to get how much it frustrates me lol, they just trust my opinion not to touch the stuff and get whatever instead.

Anyway, thanks for the good wishes. If I remember correctly you also changed location semi-recently? Hope all is going great for you.​

I'm a big fan of reggaeton, so I appreciate those songs. Like most genres I find it's about 90% shit, but you find some amazing gems in there. I actually really like that Arcangel tune. The others I could pass on for sure. That first one it pretty hilarious with that kid surrounded by busty models - I get the impression he would have no idea what to do with one of them in bed, if he had the chance.

Yeah I totally get and agree with what you are saying about the idiocy of this Tussi phenomenon. People sure can dumb in groups when the ball gets rolling.

It's too bad because I've had a fantasy/imagination about a kind of psychedelic latino rave or party scene based on mescaline and big sound systems and cumbia and reggaeton kind of stuff. Tussi and these reggaeton tunes get close to ticking that box. I like this idea because of mescaline cacti being such an americano thing, and these rhythms being a very modern things with deep roots in afro-indigenous culture, so it just tickles the imagination to think of a fantasy rave culture that sprung up independent of the UK/anglo-rooted rave culture. So in my fantasy, you have the main-stream of rave that sprung up mainly from UK with some cross-pollination from the USA and europe, fueled mainly by MDMA and acid, based on 4x4 house and sped up funk breaks, and then a parallel but independant Latinoamericano variety based around dembow, cumbia, and mescaline's cousins.

In real life this almost does exist of course, there is a ton of musical penetration bringing Caribbean and Latino beats into bass music and pollinating the global rave scene, and of course the entire PHiKAL catalouge (derived from granddaddy mescaline) permeates the culture. So maybe the real-life version is even better, with cumbia, reggaeton, and mescaline intertwined intimiately with the global rave DNA.

Anyways Tussi seems like good material for a Vice/Hamilton Morris video.

Yes, all is good for me, I went away, spent some very good time, and then came back to home base.

 

[cosmic charlie]

Well i just viewed the apartment and its amazing guys, so nice and huge. Has a balcony with table and chairs with a view of the NYC skyline, beautiful. Has dishwasher and washer in dryer in the basement, its on the second floor. Gonna find out if i get it tonight and then i will have to take a few thousand out of the bank to pay for the rent and security deposit. The dude wants cash which is fine by me, ive got my fingers crossed.

 

[cosmic charlie]

Got the apartment, have to pull out the money tommorow and pay this dude on Friday. He is only making me pay for half of this month also so its gonna be a little less which is great. Super excited that worked out way easier than i thought it was gonna. Legit took me 3 days to find this place, what a great day!!!

 

[Delsyd]

I think it's finally time for the Shulgin idea of introducing synthetic tryptamines into the substrate of psilocybin producing mushrooms. Any tryptamine you put into it will be metabolized by the fungus into its 4-phosphoryloxy counterpart. I'm sure there's some cheap bulk unsubstituted synthetic tryptamine just waiting for someone to do this.

This would be pretty cool of it actually worked.
There’s the Psilomethoxin thread which claims they made mushrooms with 4 ho 5 meo dmt. But if I recall correctly it was BS and was just plain old psilocybin mushrooms.

 

[pharmakos]

This would be pretty cool of it actually worked.
There’s the Psilomethoxin thread which claims they made mushrooms with 4 ho 5 meo dmt. But if I recall correctly it was BS and was just plain old psilocybin mushrooms.

Idk if there's reason to believe that a tryptamine with both 4- and 5- substitutions would retain activity, at least at a reasonable dosage range.

Something more like... idk bulk DET or something would be more suitable

 

[perpetualdawn]

I always imagined there'd be a lot of inefficiency in feeding a tryptamine to the mycelium - you'd probably end up with a very small percentage converted to 4-sub and present in the mushrooms, so the tryptamine would have to be very cheap for the process to be worthwhile. And afaik they're all a bit too pricey to be used as feedstock for something that might be just 5-10% efficient.

 

[Bagseed]

I always imagined there'd be a lot of inefficiency in feeding a tryptamine to the mycelium - you'd probably end up with a very small percentage converted to 4-sub and present in the mushrooms, so the tryptamine would have to be very cheap for the process to be worthwhile. And afaik they're all a bit too pricey to be used as feedstock for something that might be just 5-10% efficient.

yeah pretty pointless since you can synth all those anyway....

 

[cosmic charlie]

yeah pretty pointless since you can synth all those anyway....

My thoughts exactly, mean sure its cool for the science of it and finding out if its possible. But personally id never be putting any of my pure DET for example into a substrate cuz id just rather use the compound as it is. And i mean eating the physical mushrooms isnt ideal anyways, if you could just be taking the 4-HO-DET in a capsule. But i mean i think its cool that someone is doing this research, its goos stuff to know for fact after its been speculation so long.

 

[cosmic charlie]

Well i just tested positive for Methadone and Oxycodone at my Bupe doctor. This is fucking insane guys cuz i have 100% not taken those drugs. And now i have to go and get blood work done this week which is a major pain in my ass cuz i work everyday. Honestly i think i might look for a doctor cuz this place is completely fucked. If they communicated this to my PO i would be violated and its my last month.

This is far beyond sketchy

 

[ions]

They're trolling you.
Just tell them you're doing a shitton of anything else not to test positive for the panel.

 

[JackARoe]

Recently pulled out my Abbie Hoffman book Steal This Urine Test. Wow what a scam these tests are. The book is over 25 years old but still spot on. One of the funny pieces is he keeps calling Federal Urine Collects FUCs. So the FUCs do this or that.

How can we do this to people. These tests are not accurate. (sort of like the COVID tests). I came up PCP in my last pre employment test and they did not even call me in to retest because they KNEW if was a faulty test. (2010). I subsisted on kratom and jwh-018 the month before I had to take it. But thankfully the cannabis test is going the way of the dinosaur. Should be all tests going the way of the dinosaur. They are BS.

Sorry Charlie. Just speak from the heart. That works a lot. You will be ok. They know it can be BS.

 

[Pfafffed]

That is just for us here in PD you know, and it was a great year Phens in my case. Got to use a bunch of 2C-B which was a fun time indeed. Next year we could call it this to follow arrall's naming scheme.

PD Social Talk Thread 2023-2024 v.​

Time of the Tryptamine​

Better than the Era of the Arylcyclohexylamine, I suppose

 

[cosmic charlie]

Such a beautiful love song, cant get enough of this album lately. Really craving some drugs guys guy, i wanna trip so badly but i just cant and need to show some damn restraint. Will probably take some 2C-B later in the week or something, have to give it some time because of the L.

That stuff seriously ramps up your tolerance something heavy. Probably gonna wait until after i move into my new place to take the 2C-E with my girlfriend, might even have us each take 10mgs of that. And for me i will add in like one blotter of LSD or 15mgs of 4-HO-MET.

Not sure which but i am a sucker for my combos guys as you know. Just love seeing how these drugs play off eachother. And after tripping as long as i have so many times its a way to add a certain novelty to the act. Im sure you guys will be happy to hear ive pretty much given up on Dissos at this point, complete waste of time and money for me.

Like the effects from that half gram of FXE literally felt like what 50mgs was like a couple years ago. Its just not worth it to me anymore at this point. Am i really gonna piss out my bladder for threshold experiences. Im gonna give O-PCE a shot in a couple weeks but im really not that hopeful at this point, think its over for me for a long, long time. Maybe after some years away i can get back the magic, we shall see.

 

[pharmakos]

So I moved out of Saginaw to a small town closer to "home" for me, in the Thumb of Michigan. Still on disability unfortunately, have not been able to find a job I can handle with how much chronic fatigue I have since going through my four years of chemotherapy. My rent/bills here are way higher than it was in Saginaw, haven't been able to afford anything but necessities. Which means I can't even afford cannabis.... Which has been hell on my chronic pain, my inflammatory bowel disease, and my sleep. I thought moving to a new town might give me a fresh start sort of thing but I've been absolutely fucking miserable since I've been here.

In my third year of chemo, before I started my year long course of oxaliplatin, my doctor sat me down to ask me if I even wanted to keep doing treatment. She said my quality of life would be permanently lowered, possibly to an extreme degree. And, well, she was right. Genuinely been wondering lately if I shouldn't have just let the cancer take me. I hate living in disability, I feel like a leech and a burden, but I don't see a way out. If I wasn't 100% sure that my 16 year old cat Pumpkin would probably follow me in death shortly after she lost me (from heartbreak and loneliness, no one would be able to take care of her the way I do, she's a very unique cat with unique needs) I'd be considering just offing myself and being done with it all.

No car and no public transportation in this little town. With my extensive peripheral nerve damage I'm under strict doctors orders to not spend much time outside in the cold months. Genuinely have no idea how I'd be able to work any time soon, walking to work is out of the question -- I wouldn't be very useful at any given job after walking a mile in the cold to get there, between my neuropathy and my fatigue.

 

[swilow]

No tripping for the last few weeks for me (although had a bit of DMXE). Felt like I needed to allow the old receptors the chance to reintegrate. But this weekend, considering a combo of 1p-LSD and 5-Meo-MIpt, or oral DMT and a little bit of shrooms. Although I've got some 5-MAPB and never tried that, so maybe eat a bit of that and check out a local psytrance doof near my house. I'm enjoying tripping alone/at home way more than in a social context these days, but some empathogen and forest psy has always been a wonderful marriage to me.