Glad you're better. I did a couple of small dose oxys a few days ago from a friend who had some. Luckily, I had no kindling effect, but of course kratom probably was a player in that.
yeah i take kratom daily but it seems to just do nothing 2-3 days after i use anyways just due to how sticky those full agonist receptor sites are LOL that fentanyl being so lipophilic and hanging around for awhile definitely kills all benefits from kratom i yet until day 4 or so. granted it probably helps more than i think
im not a stepper but sometimes it’s good to follow a guide to ground you & practice a few humanistic activities yanno? proud of you
It was for me to. The whole God thing made me ick. I just started to look at the God thing as 'the God molecule ', DMT. & No I don't pray to DMT or anything, I just use my experience with DMT to allow me to connect to the universe. That's the only thing I really know about God, everything else just seems ehhh.
Defo the God thing put me off, my mentor suggested even a door handle can be like a God because you can't open the door without it (I'd dispute that idea too, lol) but that didn't help at all.
An old timer once explained to me that 'you know, they just could be right' & they left it at that. & More I think about it, the more like you, I developed a window into the whole God idea. The book even mentions that deep down in every man, woman and child is the fundamental God idea. It doesn't say Jesus or Abraham or whatever. So nature and the power around that is your 'deep down' God ideal.
'. I think we are on the same page with what yours is and what mine is. I picture an single cell organism that is everywhere, the same one that develops into a heartbeat, a flower, a snail, anything it can become and more.
That's the sticking point there. I can believe a powerful force exists in the universe, an intelligence of kinds that facilitated the creation of life. That belief could be innate or learned, but I can't believe it's interested in whether I live sozzled or sober.
yeah, i’m on the same side of the fence you are on when it comes to that. 100%. now i will say, with that being said, russell brand’s book ‘freedom from our addictions’ has a decent interpretation / perceptive of the steps. most of the time i feel like russell brand talks too much & is just trying to sound overly intelligent, which actually sounds like pseudo-intelligence, but i have this book a go & actually enjoyed it for the most part. i have a lot of beef with the 12 steps & how it’s inherently based on the christian faith. but brand happens to be an atheist as well(i think? maybe spiritual but definitely not christian) so that is what made me open the book in the first place. i think. i do think you can apply some of the steps to your life, depending on your perspective. i think you can learn a good amount if you go into it realizing that you can take it as surface-level advice y’know? it’s hard for atheists (including myself) to even try to give it the time of day, when you innately know it’s based off of the christian “God”. that kept me faaaaar away from even reading those silly steps in the first place, if i’m being honest. i also believe heavily that everyone’s recovery is different & that it obviously isn’t going to work for everyone, just how like, cold-turkey isn’t for everyone. MAT/Suboxone isn’t for everyone. becoming addicted to exercise isn’t for everyone. AA/NA isn’t for everyone. ‘cali sober’ isn’t for everyone etc etc etc, you guys get the point i’m making.
It is great to still have ya aboard.
Yeah, you're right. The steps and meetings don't work for everyone. Hell it didn't work for me at first because I'm like 'who the fuck are all these happy people, and how come this dude is talking to the hottest chick at the meeting, man fuck this place, I feel so weird here' and that shit kept me away from meetings and the fellowships for Soo long. & What I ended up doing was finding a group of old drunks that was there because they were doing something that I wanted to do. I didn't want the hot chick or none of that shit, I wanted sobriety, and these old timers had something figured out. & Now I can go to those meetings which I once had avoided because I'm now there for a meeting.
