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Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v. 7.0

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Invegatorture said:
All days suck for me. They all feel the exact same. Pure suffering. I’ve never been so miserable. I won’t be here much longer if I can OD on something. Life is NOT worth living like this. I don’t believe in recovery for me because I experienced brain burning for over a month and not many can relate to that.
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What is brain burning?
Stay strong and please don’t hurt yourself
 
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RecoveryInProgress said:
I’m still recovering from the last one. And the other one was a year plus
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Holy fuck.
I was thinking about 2-3 months to recover (since I took it for "only" 3,5 months). Maybe my expectations are to high and it's the reason of my frustration (and sadness).

My therapist said that I should do my stuff without expectations, like, expecting nothing at all in ALL. It's way easier talking than doing, lol.

All that cliche about acceptance and blablabla.
Theoretically it's easy but truly is hard as fuck.
 
naoaguento said:
Holy fuck.
I was thinking about 2-3 months to recover (since I took it for "only" 3,5 months). Maybe my expectations are to high and it's the reason of my frustration (and sadness).

My therapist said that I should do my stuff without expectations, like, expecting nothing at all in ALL. It's way easier talking than doing, lol.

All that cliche about acceptance and blablabla.
Theoretically it's easy but truly is hard as fuck.
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I agree! And thank you for sharing that of what your therapist said. Like allowing little improvements here and there to make ourselves feel better instead of being frustrated for not feeling recovered in certain areas as much as we’d like.

And yeah I’m looking forward to recovering from this. It does take awhile. My boyfriend actually just told me today that I wake up more refreshed now when I wake up. Sometimes it’s difficult to notice changes in the long term because we don’t see them day to day.
 
I'm creating a regiment for myself. I'm on guanfacine for ADHD now and it helped me more than I thought it would. I might up my dose soon.

What I've been/plan on using:

Guanfacine (ask for this if you have high blood pressure or ADHD). It promotes activity in the frontal lobe.
Lion's man extract
THC and CBD
Sildenifel cream (a.k.a scream cream for vulvar/vaginal sexual dysfunction
Escitalopram/Lexapro (not started yet, waiting for physical recovery to advance)

I was on Wellbutrin for two weeks, but it made me anxious so I stopped. I recommend SNRIs if they work for you. I also took the rest of my Straterra when I got home even though I was discontinuing it because I had faith it wouldn't cause another psychotic episode while I was on antipsychotics. I hear dopamine agonists can help counteract this drug.

Talk to your doctors about stuff y'all. Smoke weed if ya can, it made me feel almost normal. I will come back and tell you how it goes for me. I don't plan on checking in very often, this thread is indeed full of negativity and fear and it rubs off on me.

There are things you can do for yourself to feel better. If you feel far away from yourself, part of the reason is you are disassociating. I think this drug causes disassociation because it makes it hard to feel. There are ways to cope with it, find a therapist. Start remembering facts about yourself, take a cold shower, exercise.

Please remember that this is temporary. If anyone is suicidal out there, I'm gonna be real with you, if you give up and die you will never feel the pleasure that is coming to you again. You will die miserable. Do you really want that? To die without laughing, tasting your food, or cumming again?

Instead, do your best to keep going. Push through. It's a bit like going through chemotherapy for early stage cancer. Your odds of recovery are good, but it's going to take a long time and it's going to suck, but you will live.
 
InvegaAnon said:
I'm creating a regiment for myself. I'm on guanfacine for ADHD now and it helped me more than I thought it would. I might up my dose soon.

What I've been/plan on using:

Guanfacine (ask for this if you have high blood pressure or ADHD). It promotes activity in the frontal lobe.
Lion's man extract
THC and CBD
Sildenifel cream (a.k.a scream cream for vulvar/vaginal sexual dysfunction
Escitalopram/Lexapro (not started yet, waiting for physical recovery to advance)

I was on Wellbutrin for two weeks, but it made me anxious so I stopped. I recommend SNRIs if they work for you. I also took the rest of my Straterra when I got home even though I was discontinuing it because I had faith it wouldn't cause another psychotic episode while I was on antipsychotics. I hear dopamine agonists can help counteract this drug.

Talk to your doctors about stuff y'all. Smoke weed if ya can, it made me feel almost normal. I will come back and tell you how it goes for me. I don't plan on checking in very often, this thread is indeed full of negativity and fear and it rubs off on me.

There are things you can do for yourself to feel better. If you feel far away from yourself, part of the reason is you are disassociating. I think this drug causes disassociation because it makes it hard to feel. There are ways to cope with it, find a therapist. Start remembering facts about yourself, take a cold shower, exercise.

Please remember that this is temporary. If anyone is suicidal out there, I'm gonna be real with you, if you give up and die you will never feel the pleasure that is coming to you again. You will die miserable. Do you really want that? To die without laughing, tasting your food, or cumming again?

Instead, do your best to keep going. Push through. It's a bit like going through chemotherapy for early stage cancer. Your odds of recovery are good, but it's going to take a long time and it's going to suck, but you will live.
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Explain to me how u know that you are going to recover?
 
Baddream said:
I think many people on this forum is making their own suffering worse by negative thinking and that’s what makes the difference between a slow and fast recovery.

The people who are optimistic recover alot faster and they recover 100% in the end because this is about being strong mentally. If you go back to previous threads you will mostly find that those who come back with positive updates were optimistic to begin with.

Not saying the side effects aren’t real, but if you live in total hell after a good amount of time, something is not right with your mindset. I believe we react differently to a certain extent, but for the most part we go through the same experience and suffer the same side effects.

I have my issues mentally that I need to sort out as well, don’t take this as an attack it’s just advice.
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I highly doubt that is true. You either heal or you don't. Your thoughts have no impact in how your cells interact, that's psychiatrist/psychologist talk.
 
Rulomaner said:
Explain to me how u know that you are going to recover?
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The proof is the multiple recovery stories and the official information by the manufacturers that it doesn’t last forever. If it did nobody would suffer a relapse. Don’t pay too much attention to the horror stories. They are usually very pessimistic and hypocondriac people.

I read the other posts from the one redditor you sent me. He is completely nuts. Totally toxic posts about killing people, conspiracies and other bizarre subjects.

Don’t forget that these kind of forums attract some very disturbed people, there are some really toxic personalities out there. They give this drug mostly to people with severe mental issues.

You will make your suffering worse if you keep thinking negatively. Every negative symptom I had had improved, slowly but surely. This drug is powerful potent it takes time to heal. But I don’t see any reason why it doesn’t or it would be frontpage news
 
InvegaAnon said:
I'm creating a regiment for myself. I'm on guanfacine for ADHD now and it helped me more than I thought it would. I might up my dose soon.

What I've been/plan on using:

Guanfacine (ask for this if you have high blood pressure or ADHD). It promotes activity in the frontal lobe.
Lion's man extract
THC and CBD
Sildenifel cream (a.k.a scream cream for vulvar/vaginal sexual dysfunction
Escitalopram/Lexapro (not started yet, waiting for physical recovery to advance)

I was on Wellbutrin for two weeks, but it made me anxious so I stopped. I recommend SNRIs if they work for you. I also took the rest of my Straterra when I got home even though I was discontinuing it because I had faith it wouldn't cause another psychotic episode while I was on antipsychotics. I hear dopamine agonists can help counteract this drug.

Talk to your doctors about stuff y'all. Smoke weed if ya can, it made me feel almost normal. I will come back and tell you how it goes for me. I don't plan on checking in very often, this thread is indeed full of negativity and fear and it rubs off on me.

There are things you can do for yourself to feel better. If you feel far away from yourself, part of the reason is you are disassociating. I think this drug causes disassociation because it makes it hard to feel. There are ways to cope with it, find a therapist. Start remembering facts about yourself, take a cold shower, exercise.

Please remember that this is temporary. If anyone is suicidal out there, I'm gonna be real with you, if you give up and die you will never feel the pleasure that is coming to you again. You will die miserable. Do you really want that? To die without laughing, tasting your food, or cumming again?

Instead, do your best to keep going. Push through. It's a bit like going through chemotherapy for early stage cancer. Your odds of recovery are good, but it's going to take a long time and it's going to suck, but you will live.
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Who knows wether this is temporary or not? It might as well be permanent, since these drugs have brain damaging qualities, also, it isn't safe to take all these drugs at once, not to mention they don't help at all.
 
lurker689 said:
I highly doubt that is true. You either heal or you don't. Your thoughts have no impact in how your cells interact, that's psychiatrist/psychologist talk.
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I’m not the one playing doctor pretending to know how this drug functions on a molecular level. I’m not qualified to speak about that. If you believe that the top level chemists are idiots who don’t understand the drugs they manufacture then you are seriously underestimating their skill level.

Why are some people feeling much better then others when we were given the same drug and our brain structure is pretty much the same?

Our minds and how we think plays a huge role. That’s true for any disease treatment.

I don’t believe they gave us a drug with permanent side effects, I believe some people convince themselves of this because they are scared. Maybe
 
Baddream said:
The proof is the multiple recovery stories and the official information by the manufacturers that it doesn’t last forever. If it did nobody would suffer a relapse. Don’t pay too much attention to the horror stories. They are usually very pessimistic and hypocondriac people.

I read the other posts from the one redditor you sent me. He is completely nuts. Totally toxic posts about killing people, conspiracies and other bizarre subjects.

Don’t forget that these kind of forums attract some very disturbed people, there are some really toxic personalities out there. They give this drug mostly to people with severe mental issues.

You will make your suffering worse if you keep thinking negatively. Every negative symptom I had had improved, slowly but surely. This drug is powerful potent it takes time to heal. But I don’t see any reason why it doesn’t or it would be frontpage news
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What if we don't heal? Better not fill people with false hope.
Baddream said:
I’m not the one playing doctor pretending to know how this drug functions on a molecular level. I’m not qualified to speak about that. If you believe that the top level chemists are idiots who don’t understand the drugs they manufacture then you are seriously underestimating their skill level.

Why are some people feeling much better then others when we were given the same drug and our brain structure is pretty much the same?

Our minds and how we think plays a huge role. That’s true for any disease treatment.

I don’t believe they gave us a drug with permanent side effects, I believe some people convince themselves of this because they are scared. Maybe
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Let's face it, psychiatrists don't understand anything about anything, and the chemists don't even understand the mechanisms behind the symptoms we experience, otherwise there'd be already a cure out there.They just created a lobotomizing agent, the only knowledge known about these drugs was that they calmed down their victims, so that's enough for them. I don't even believe in this neurotransmitter mumbo jumbo anymore.
 
Baddream said:
I think many people on this forum is making their own suffering worse by negative thinking and that’s what makes the difference between a slow and fast recovery.
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Be careful with optimism/pessimism, both can kill you. Realism and objectivity is what I always pick over optimism/pessimism.

I'm an pragmatist and realist.
 
If you prioritize being optimistic over being realistic, it will make you hate yourself for multiple reasons:
- you aren't being specific/clear enough, which paints an image which can be interpreted many ways.
- you set unrealistic expectations for yourself and likely for others too, which is toxic optimism.
- you'll end up hating yourself when you say or make it look like you are better than how it is.

Do not be harmful to yourself & others and value your & others suffering, so be real and clear.
 
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Thats it bro, he gave you more than 2 reasons. They dont care. Investigate manufacturers, investigate trials, investigate who are the owners of theese companies (J&J, Otsuka) they are all owned by private shareholders, such as investment banks. Its all trash bro. My face looks like a fucking panda. I am truly suicidal this days bro.
 
Little update:
Hello, I have received 9 injections, and the last injection was on March 19, 2023. I went through a difficult situation with my mother yesterday, and I found myself crying for the first time in a year. Is this evidence of the beginning of the return of emotions? Knowing that two months ago I started to feel chills sometimes, I am still taking 1 mg risperidone in order to get out of the syringe because in the hospital they do not have the small doses of syringes, and I also noticed that the quality of my sleep improved somewhat after I slept 12 hours while the syringe was present Now I sleep 9 to 10 hours. I wish everyone a good recovery
Sorry for my bad English, i used Google translate
 
Paliperidone was never tested for brain shrinkage in clinical trials, maybe there was private research, but I can't find not even one.
 
Oral haloperidol/olanzapine cause 20% total brain shrinkage in ~1.5 year of use, there was trial on monkeys.
 
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