The Main 5-MAPB Thread (v2)

[alienigena]

Para mí, es aproximadamente el doble de la potencia de la MDMA, aunque la pureza puede variar. Yo diría que 80 mg, cuando se toma solo, me gusta dividir la dosis o tomar 50 y luego 30 45-60 minutos más tarde. 90 mg era casi demasiado fuerte.

-GC

Muchas gracias por su respuesta . Tengo muchas ganas de probarlo porque veo muy buenas opiniones. sin embargo, lo enviaré para que lo analicen y confirme que de hecho es puro 5-mapb. Salud !

 

[Innerpeace]

its been five months since used any phenylethylamine, or tryptamine . Been going through some low times, broke up with ex, and had the opportunity to have sex with at least one girl, but didn't seem like it would be even worth it, due to she sleeps around, definitely not someone id want to be in a relationship with, and just the possible emotional attachment, which could block me meeting someone else that is better , if still attached, , along with std's, even if i used a condom, Id subject myself too. Ive been through dating phases and fine with being alone right now.

Furthermore, Ive been going through depression. Moreover, took 20 mgs , capped it , at least my scale said, i had to double check two scales, and definitely felt more calm lovely entacogen, yet stimulated mildly, even moderately. I dont take stimulates except maybe 100 mgs caffiene a day from drinking green tea and black tea in mornings. . Surprised how well this went. I usually like to go out with friends, or do it in a relationship, and out of town, and not locally doing my routine everyday things. Was off work today. Went to gym, even after gym, wanted to move, ended up cleaning my room, and lower calorie diet, protein and some fats. Later , feeling tired, Took 2.5 grams kratom , went to gym again, later on, feeling nice

 

[higherconciousness]

Have 2c-b, 4-ho-met, and 5mapb coming this week. I've yet to try 5mapb. Have used 6-apb, but I hear the character of this one is closer to MDMA perhaps more sedating. MDMA doesn't work on me anymore and I've gotten high quality product that rocked my fellow friends. It just makes me oddly dysphoric and physically uncomfortable. Its strange as I still got dilated pupils and nystagmus just none of the pleasantness I used to associate with MDMA. MDA tends to work fairly nice still, so odd mdma sucks. Someone on reddit claimed they permanently lost the magic of mdma, but had a great time on 5mapb. Hope thats the case with me. Have a Slightly Stoopid, Sublime, and Atmosphere concert Friday. Thinking of taking 2c-b then at peak take redose of more 2c-b and 5mapb.

 

[Innerpeace]

Would 4f-mph be efficient for dopamine and noradrenaline release , like 2 fma, 3 fmp, needed to replicate MDMA, with 5 mapbs and a low dose sub 4 typtamine?

 

[higherconciousness]

Would 4f-mph be efficient for dopamine and noradrenaline release , like 2 fma, 3 fmp, needed to replicate MDMA, with 5 mapbs and a low dose sub 4 typtamine?

Never tried 5mapb before, but from the many posts on various forums I’ve seen reported on this compound, in theory it sounds plausible. I know 5mapb is purportedly low on energy exertion and seems to require additional substances to really shine. I remember having MDAI, which was not great by itself, but upon throwing in some adderall and some 4-ho-mipt, it was beautiful.

2c-b is the only main 2c-x I’ve yet to do. Looks like it’s not as stimulating as 2c-I, so I don’t think 2c-b will provide enough to cover the inherent lack of energy of 5-mapb. My 2cb, 4-ho-met, and 5mapb order didn’t come yesterday , but my vendor told me Saturday it was comin tuesday so we shall see. I already have 4f-mph which may use instead of my adderall for my choice of stimulant.

 

[Innerpeace]

I've always found 5 mapb to be stimulating, despite it not having a massive or moderate, dopamine and noradrenaline release.
Furthermore, to bring my emotional state closer to MDMA, I'd have to dose a low dose dopamine and noradrenaline (ne) releaser , with 5 mapbs , in addition , with a low dose sub 4 typtamine.

 

[Innerpeace]

Have 2c-b, 4-ho-met, and 5mapb coming this week. I've yet to try 5mapb. Have used 6-apb, but I hear the character of this one is closer to MDMA perhaps more sedating. MDMA doesn't work on me anymore and I've gotten high quality product that rocked my fellow friends. It just makes me oddly dysphoric and physically uncomfortable. Its strange as I still got dilated pupils and nystagmus just none of the pleasantness I used to associate with MDMA. MDA tends to work fairly nice still, so odd mdma sucks. Someone on reddit claimed they permanently lost the magic of mdma, but had a great time on 5mapb. Hope thats the case with me. Have a Slightly Stoopid, Sublime, and Atmosphere concert Friday. Thinking of taking 2c-b then at peak take redose of more 2c-b and 5mapb.

Ive been here with mdma. It was one hundred percent my fault from overusing it, scratch that , abusing it. Have uyou had an episode recently or last time you "rolled" where you had a bad comedown that lasted up to a week or more later? Even a six months break didn't really restore the magic,ime. You could try a borax like combo, but if your replicating mdma with serotine, dopamine and ne, those receptors, are tolerant, and the closest experience ive found to mdma is the borax combo
(75 mgs 5 mapbs, 23 mgs 2-fma[not too high], 5 mgs 4-ho-mipt but most sub 4 tryps will do, do your research) Its very possible you need to take a two and a half year break, which that is what seemed to help me , the most. In addition to resetting tolerance, I felt I damaged my cognitive abilities to a certain percent, and took up to two, two and a half years for them to come back, with an overall more stable emotional state. Goodluck

 

[Achten]

Yesterday i did my first trail with 5-MAPB, together with my wife.
I weigh 85kg, she weighs 60. I did 85mg, she did 70mg.

Comeup was smooth and pretty long (in comparison with MDMA, the empathogen we use the most - still max 3 times a year though).
I hit the peak after 90minutes, she almost took 120minutes. Both empty stomach.
Peak (T+2-T+6h) was marvellous. Open communication for the first 2hours and great sex (without orgasm, but this didnt bother us) for the latter 2hours. At T+6h30 we had a small meal and watched some Twin Peaks. The comedown was not harsh and pretty quick. With MDMA there is plenty lingering stimulation after the peak which makes me unable to sleep until T+9-10h. With 5MAPB i slept at T+8h30.

All in all a great experience. I will repeat, and because i like to experiment i might try a dose of 95-100mg but i dont see any point in going higher. There was nystagmus and some jaw clenching present this time, which i dont experience with MDMA.

Today i feel great. My mood is strong-willed and positive, although physically i feel pretty tired. Still took my swim as intended, albeit a bit slower than usual.

In comparison to MDMA: this feels less sacred and emotional but maybe a bit more euphoric and hedonistic. The peak is noticably longer.

PS: we both did 15-20mcg of LSD the day before.
PS2: we both took 25mg CBD at T+7h. I also vaped a small amount of hashish.
PS3: this experience was actually planned for a long time. The day before, our car got stolen. We hesitated a bit before doing the experiment since the set wasn't ideal anymore. But we are so glad we did it. We realised we don't want dishonest people deciding how we feel.

 

[ions]

This molecule interests me. And I found it for a good price. Only thing is you need to order 149 minimum off that website. Next time I have some extra funds I may dive on in.

 

[AlsoTapered]

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20230150963A1/en

 

[grydgehugger]

Hi. Am likely using this for the first time in next few weeks.

I’m thinking start with a low dosage (40mg) then redose after 2-3 hours if not rolling too hard?

Also, any experiences of pairing it with 6apb? Reports suggest 5-mapb is less of a stimulant so I’m thinking maybe topping up with 6-apb instead of the re-dose?

I’m new to 5-mapb but using 6-apb a few times a year for 10+ years.

 

[Tiklu]

so i tried 5-mapb for the first time, initially I snorted it (apparently it was succinate but they did not list it as that just said "powder") snorted it for the first time and immediately puked, it just didn't sit right with me, I literally took the line and instantly vomited so I felt nothing, so I decided fuck it, gonna do it IM. But apparently this drug doesn't absorb so well IM, I would do like 100 mg and was barely rolling, just mild stimulation and this is from my first injecting it, so I tried IV, that did not work so well, then I tried Oral and I got this allergic reaction, my mouth started developing thush and my throat was swollen with difficulty breathing. Ironically the only way I could actually feel something was if I smoked it, then I actually got high without needing to take like 400mg. mind you my tolerance for entactogenic drugs are not that high, back when I first started doing MDMA I always did the 1-2 month rule and the instant I switched to this shitty 5-mapb I felt nothing, ones I did feel something I did kinda like it more than MDMA cause it is more relaxing and serotonergic than MDMA, when I get way too stimulated on MDMA I can't even keep my own thoughts in check and I hate that, If it's succinate than the only way is too smoke tbh, poor water solubility makes it bad to even IV

 

[emkee_reinvented]

thanks, but nothing is better (or similar) 5 mapb for social disinhibition? (except MDMA),
empathogenic, stimulants and other rc

There used to be, MDAI, a pure serotonin releaser/ reuptake inhibiter
Summep up; the experience consisted of random moan's. Took only 100 mg which is not an exceptionialy high dose I thought.

Oh yeah its in 1-st position for serotinergic flooring substance's.

Nine year's since your reply, but 5-MAPB is now used in official clinic's by psychiatrist's. They maybe would rather use MDMA, as that at least undergone phase 3 trial's, instead of 5-MAP a "stricktly ment for research' chemical with little research on it.

But it apperently helps sufferer's of un-treateable PTSD. Similar with and advantages over MDMA. No negative's were named.
A slower come up, longer duration and less chaotic, missus some of the stimulant MDMA has. So is very suited for a sittng/ laying setting. And for going inward's which it also has incommon. Like Oxytocin release. They use a light dose, as the result's were best, 40/ 60 mg of the HCL 1 dose (at noon if they use the MAPS manual).

Just like MDMA it able's to access traumatic event's without the fear respose. They create a nice setting and the client is well informed and a bond formed with the therapist's present.
Aimes are explained/ made during preperation and possible roadblock's talked through. The approach, gentle/ kind with enough room for the invidual. You never no what someone feels so interference is minimal. Sound's perfect for how to approach someone during such a session.

you can sense its aimed on people without Emphatogen experience. the MAPS manual.

They use art also as for of expression as needed. Music/ headphones, speciallity's the parttaker request's.

edited : for not constantly wearing glasses, typo's which see to get worse and beter wording

 

[sinan]

Man, I miss this one so much. I know it's still around, but regulations in Europe made it so difficult to obtain

 

[LukeT93]

Man, I miss this one so much. I know it's still around, but regulations in Europe made it so difficult to obtain

I agree - this stuff was perfect, both recreationally and therapeutically. Much more so than MDMA. But, MDMA is the one in the news and being tested for psychiatry - makes no sense.
Now, If only someone would post a good recipe for it.

 

[jveiojajoivioedsac]

I agree - this stuff was perfect, both recreationally and therapeutically. Much more so than MDMA. But, MDMA is the one in the news and being tested for psychiatry - makes no sense.
Now, If only someone would post a good recipe for it.

How was 5MAPB good therapeutically?

 

[tuppingtoncity]

Had the pleasure of trying ~75mg of 5-MAPB recently and I found it to be a wonderful little monoamine releaser. Very, very similar to ~100-110mg of MDMA, perhaps slightly less stimulation, although there is frankly very little in the way of any meaningful differences between the two substances and this might have been more a function of dose than anything. Catalyzed conversation between myself and my friends in an identical manner to MDMA, allowed for openness and articulation far above sober levels. Really fantastic stuff!

 

[isotuden]

Tried 75mg recently and found it to be incredibly smooth, much more than MDMA, with basically no come up anxiety nor any come down. During, it's clean mental stimulation but the body load is more relaxed, very calm aside from the bruxism which could probably be mitigated through magnesium supplementation. No real visuals but does have a little bit of chromatic aberration and your vision's a bit more hazy in a nice way, plus the feeling of the pupil enlargement is not ridiculous and uncomfortable like it is on certain other substances. I got the strong sense that it would pair beautifully with any psych. Overall it gives you a really calm, forgiving, confident, social headspace and the best thing is definitely just talking to other people. I didn't actually feel like music enhancement was very good at all, music sounds better on weed most of the time for me. I just couldn't figure out what to listen to. In sum it's really a great one, the lack of comedown is actually more like an afterglow that lasts about 2 days after the night you take it. Never liked MDMA much because I could never get the dosage / purity right and this stuff was way cooler.

 

[aag]

I just remembered one experience I had with 5-MAPB long time ago.

I took 130mg of 5-MAPB, split into two doses (first dose, then a second one 30 minutes later). The trip itself was really nice: pleasant, very euphoric, but not overly stimulating. I did have some bodyload and unusually vomited once (I've never puked on empathogens before), but after throwing up the bodyload disappeared and the rest of the experience was smooth.

I only slept 4-5 hours the night before. When the 5-MAPB was mostly over, I smoked some weed in the evening. Shortly after that I slipped into a state of mild delirium that lasted for a while.
I've tried classic deliriants before (DPH, Akineton, Pridinol, doxylamine), so I know what that delirium headspace feels like. The effects were:

• Constantly forgetting what I was doing (e.g. walking to the kitchen for water and completely forgetting why I was there the moment I arrived).
• Getting deeply absorbed in imaginary scenarios in my head. They felt more real than reality, then suddenly they’d vanish and I'd snap back confused.
• Auditory hallucinations – hearing my girlfriend in the other room even though I was home alone. I also felt her presence in my apartment
• Mild visual hallucinations - sensing someone standing next to me or talking to me. I remember I was even responding to the voices and talking with them.

It got a bit scary at times because the hallucinations and internal scenarios kept taking over. I was confused and had trouble staying grounded in the real world.
Before and after that I never expected an empathogen like 5-MAPB to produce something this close to deliriant effects. I'm pretty sure the combination of the 5-MAPB, weed, and sleep deprivation played a role, but of course the 5-MAPB was the main trigger.

Has anyone else experienced anything similar with 5-MAPB or other emphatogens? Is this unusual or somewhat expected under these conditions?

 

[crazyotter87]

I just remembered one experience I had with 5-MAPB long time ago.

I took 130mg of 5-MAPB, split into two doses (first dose, then a second one 30 minutes later). The trip itself was really nice: pleasant, very euphoric, but not overly stimulating. I did have some bodyload and unusually vomited once (I've never puked on empathogens before), but after throwing up the bodyload disappeared and the rest of the experience was smooth.

I only slept 4-5 hours the night before. When the 5-MAPB was mostly over, I smoked some weed in the evening. Shortly after that I slipped into a state of mild delirium that lasted for a while.
I've tried classic deliriants before (DPH, Akineton, Pridinol, doxylamine), so I know what that delirium headspace feels like. The effects were:

• Constantly forgetting what I was doing (e.g. walking to the kitchen for water and completely forgetting why I was there the moment I arrived).
• Getting deeply absorbed in imaginary scenarios in my head. They felt more real than reality, then suddenly they’d vanish and I'd snap back confused.
• Auditory hallucinations – hearing my girlfriend in the other room even though I was home alone. I also felt her presence in my apartment
• Mild visual hallucinations - sensing someone standing next to me or talking to me. I remember I was even responding to the voices and talking with them.

It got a bit scary at times because the hallucinations and internal scenarios kept taking over. I was confused and had trouble staying grounded in the real world.
Before and after that I never expected an empathogen like 5-MAPB to produce something this close to deliriant effects. I'm pretty sure the combination of the 5-MAPB, weed, and sleep deprivation played a role, but of course the 5-MAPB was the main trigger.

Has anyone else experienced anything similar with 5-MAPB or other emphatogens? Is this unusual or somewhat expected under these conditions?

I’ve only done 5-MAPB twice, but I’ve had a somewhat similar experience with it. The first time, toward the tail end of the trip, I experienced deliriant-like visuals paired with subtle auditory hallucinations. I would also get lost in my own head. They weren’t as intense as what you described, but they were definitely there.

I’m guessing that a portion of 5-MAPB metabolizes into 5-APB toward the end of the experience, similar to how MDMA metabolizes into MDA. That probably plays a role in these effects. Also, 130mg is a huge dose (depending on the salt form and potency of your batch), so I’d assume a significant amount would metabolize into 5-APB. The fact that all of this happened toward the end of the roll makes me think the active metabolite, 5-APB, was the major culprit for all of this.

I vividly remember seeing a spiral staircase appear on my ceiling while I was lying in bed trying to fall asleep. I also remember hearing things that weren’t actually there.

The comedown seemed to drag on just as long as the actual peak. It was very stimulating, as opposed to the couch-locking, practically sedating roll hours earlier. Very stimulating and trippy, incredibly weird, man. I hope my reply helped.