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seriously though, tell me one reason I shouldn't vote for her.

she devoted her time to making our country's children healthier.

she's intelligent and compassionate from what I can tell
One reason I can think of is because she comes with a corrupt patronage network that is in every important institution that rewards their own like mayor's, D.A's and prosecutors that could increase crime in their cities by 3x then lose office and still fail upward into an even higher more powerful and important position
 
Oh look, another child groomer.
Oh, look, another baseless ad hominem.

I know exactly what drag is and what it represents (and where it historically was performed).
Drag is harmless if performed in gay clubs or for adult audiences. And just because some drag performers are not overtly sexual does not mean that the general theme of drag is not specifically hypersexualized.
I've been to drag shows as early as the early 2000's
Again, horseshit. If you'd really been to any significant number of drag shows, you would not be spewing this BS. You would know that it's mostly exactly the tedious and un-sexy costumed lip-syncing I've already described. And I'll see your "early 2000s" and raise you one. My first drag shows were in the 1990s, at Trannyshack (When it was still called that. I don't recall what they renamed it to.) at The Stud in San Francisco. If mainstream drag were a "hypersexualized" affair, that is EXACTLY where it would be at its most titillating. But out here in the real world beyond the confines of your imagination, it's not.

so I see through your pedophile-apologetic rhetoric and pathetic explanations.
And more baseless ad hominem.

(I'm not saying drag performers are pedophiles
Bull, you people have been saying pretty much exactly that for some time now

but I am saying that people who want to perform drag and other sexualized performances specifically around children are groomers).
Three for three with the baseless ad hominem. At least you're predictable.

I don't care if you think protecting children is weird and hysterical. That merely makes you look ignorant.
It absolutely *IS* weird and hysterical to obsess about "protecting" anyone, of any age, from conspiracy theories, drug and/or paranoia induced fever dreams, and bullshit you made up from whole cloth to "support" your preconceived agenda and narrative.

Do you people actually think you've come up with anything new? All of your talking points about "groomers"? I've heard them since *I* was a kid myself. Only back then your tried to slander LGBT people with the appellation: "recruiter". "Look out for the homos!" they* would tell us... "They can't reproduce naturally, so they send out recruiters to turn boys gay." Well, guess what? No one "recruited" or "groomed" me to be gay. If anything, it was exactly the opposite. The social pressure in the public schools is overwhelmingly focused, at all levels from the students to the teachers to the administration to the parents, on enforcing heterosexuality. And if a student ever demonstrated anything that might even imply that they were merely curious about any orientation other than hetro; they'd be subject to immediate and relentless bullying and ostracization... with teachers doing all of jack and shit to stop it... until you did something publicly, performatively, and toxically hetro-masculine. If it were possible to "recruit" or "groom" one into a sexuality, there's be no gay people AT ALL. Your "groomer" nonsense is nothing more than the same sad old hate you people have always vomited forth. All you've done is mad-lib in one different word. And you are not nearly so clever as you think you are.

*These particular "theys" were the health teachers in my middle (Either 7th or 8th grade, I'm not sure.) and high (9th grade, definitely.) schools.
 
all jokes aside, I've always liked Michelle. You guys make crude jokes about her because you hate her husband. I've never seen one ounce of evidence she has done anything wrong whatsoever.
She would just be a ‘hip’ George w Bush, at the end of the day. I don’t get why Rogan and the rest of them are obsessed with Obama. He was just Bush that was down with the gays. The dude literally started a genocide in Yemen, helped promote one of the worlds largest slave markets in Libya, pushed awful neo liberal economic policies that further eroded the middle class, was the first major figure to stoke the flame of the cultural revolution, be constantly pushed racial divide, he weaponsized the irs, etc etc.. Michelle is gonna be the exact same. They aren’t doing what they think is right, they are just the figure heads. Obama wasn’t his own Man, if he were he would have gotten the Nixon/trump/Carter/jfk treatment.
 
Oh, look, another baseless ad hominem.


Again, horseshit. If you'd really been to any significant number of drag shows, you would not be spewing this BS. You would know that it's mostly exactly the tedious and un-sexy costumed lip-syncing I've already described. And I'll see your "early 2000s" and raise you one. My first drag shows were in the 1990s, at Trannyshack (When it was still called that. I don't recall what they renamed it to.) at The Stud in San Francisco. If mainstream drag were a "hypersexualized" affair, that is EXACTLY where it would be at its most titillating. But out here in the real world beyond the confines of your imagination, it's not.


And more baseless ad hominem.


Bull, you people have been saying pretty much exactly that for some time now


Three for three with the baseless ad hominem. At least you're predictable.


It absolutely *IS* weird and hysterical to obsess about "protecting" anyone, of any age, from conspiracy theories, drug and/or paranoia induced fever dreams, and bullshit you made up from whole cloth to "support" your preconceived agenda and narrative.

Do you people actually think you've come up with anything new? All of your talking points about "groomers"? I've heard them since *I* was a kid myself. Only back then your tried to slander LGBT people with the appellation: "recruiter". "Look out for the homos!" they* would tell us... "They can't reproduce naturally, so they send out recruiters to turn boys gay." Well, guess what? No one "recruited" or "groomed" me to be gay. If anything, it was exactly the opposite. The social pressure in the public schools is overwhelmingly focused, at all levels from the students to the teachers to the administration to the parents, on enforcing heterosexuality. And if a student ever demonstrated anything that might even imply that they were merely curious about any orientation other than hetro; they'd be subject to immediate and relentless bullying and ostracization... with teachers doing all of jack and shit to stop it... until you did something publicly, performatively, and toxically hetro-masculine. If it were possible to "recruit" or "groom" one into a sexuality, there's be no gay people AT ALL. Your "groomer" nonsense is nothing more than the same sad old hate you people have always vomited forth. All you've done is mad-lib in one different word. And you are not nearly so clever as you think you are.

*These particular "theys" were the health teachers in my middle (Either 7th or 8th grade, I'm not sure.) and high (9th grade, definitely.) schools.
Pretty much nothing you say has any validity if you support drag being performed in front of children and toddlers. It shouldn't be happening and justifying it is weird and suspicious. End of story.
 
^nothing sexual about that huh @nepalnt21 ?
i couldn't even make out what they were saying, and i'm not sure what your point is.

if you are trying to say (assuming that there was anything sexual about that) that because some random people do nasty shit in front of kids that this means all dudes dressed in dresses or all trans people are in support of doing nasty shit in front of kids, that's an extremely shitty and fallacious argument.
 
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