Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v. 7.0

[apsucks]

@EsseWasGreat just checked in days ago and told us all about his recovery. He can feel coffee, alcohol, euphoria, what am I missing?

Some people have a pessimistic view of the world only complaining about how bad everything is. That’s why they’re lying in bed or at home all day, not because of invega.

 

[apsucks]

@EsseWasGreat just checked in days ago and told us all about his recovery. He can feel coffee, alcohol, euphoria, what am I missing?

Some people have a pessimistic view of the world only complaining about how bad everything is. That’s why they’re lying in bed or at home all day, not because of invega.

 

[Baddream]

withdrawals can take many years...six months antipsychotic use of shrinks the brain that is average lenght of an injection.
a guy just killed himself what you are saying is that invega got nothing to do with this ? He probably didn't live like an adult
the dude who started out this forum thread v1 still got permament issues eight years later he also made a thread on another website
Reality got nothing to do with pessimism

The people who don’t recover have a keen ability to focus on every negative aspects of life, they are probably depressed and was like that even before invega.

How do you know merek killed himself? He said he recovered from his own mouth. All the people who left this thread killed themselves? No, they got better and stopped complaining.

I don’t know the circumstances of the guy who started this thread, other than he couldn’t stand in the shower. Yeah right. Because he is a hypocondriac who didn’t even try to stand up straight what a crybaby. Why ppl on chemo can stand up? His life is a complete mess for all we kno

Give me specific examples of permanent damage.

Stop giving the impression that this drug is more devastating than it is. You will suffer boredom for a year and then go back to living normal. But it takes effort, not waiting around for a miracle to solve every aspect of your messed up life.

 

[t_xeplionhell]

The people who don’t recover have a keen ability to focus on every negative aspects of life, they are probably depressed and was like that even before invega.

I was never depressed in my life.

The people who don’t recover have a keen ability to focus on every negative aspects of life, they are probably depressed and was like that even before invega.

How do you know merek killed himself? He said he recovered from his own mouth. All the people who left this thread killed themselves? No, they got better and stopped complaining.

I don’t know the circumstances of the guy who started this thread, other than he couldn’t stand in the shower. Yeah right. Because he is a hypocondriac who didn’t even try to stand up straight what a crybaby. Why ppl on chemo can stand up? His life is a complete mess for all we kno

Give me specific examples of permanent damage.

Stop giving the impression that this drug is more devastating than it is. You will suffer boredom for a year and then go back to living normal. But it takes effort, not waiting around for a miracle to solve every aspect of your messed up life.

I personally know few people who tried to kill themself because of invega, one person OD-ed on hypnotics (he was similar to Merek), another one tried poison and another one tried cutting.

But it takes effort, not waiting around for a miracle to solve every aspect of your messed up life.

I did everything that was possible and am still doing so. My life is well organised and yet because of this invega damage it doesn't make sense and has no worth in living it.
The most important thing is to have good diet, exercise and do walks or running.

 

[t_xeplionhell]

The people who don’t recover have a keen ability to focus on every negative aspects of life, they are probably depressed and was like that even before invega.

How do you know merek killed himself? He said he recovered from his own mouth. All the people who left this thread killed themselves? No, they got better and stopped complaining.

I don’t know the circumstances of the guy who started this thread, other than he couldn’t stand in the shower. Yeah right. Because he is a hypocondriac who didn’t even try to stand up straight what a crybaby. Why ppl on chemo can stand up? His life is a complete mess for all we kno

Give me specific examples of permanent damage.

Stop giving the impression that this drug is more devastating than it is. You will suffer boredom for a year and then go back to living normal. But it takes effort, not waiting around for a miracle to solve every aspect of your messed up life.

You should see this:

 

[roofmaan1]

do the affects go away?

 

[apsucks]

The people who don’t recover have a keen ability to focus on every negative aspects of life, they are probably depressed and was like that even before invega.

How do you know merek killed himself? He said he recovered from his own mouth. All the people who left this thread killed themselves? No, they got better and stopped complaining.

I don’t know the circumstances of the guy who started this thread, other than he couldn’t stand in the shower. Yeah right. Because he is a hypocondriac who didn’t even try to stand up straight what a crybaby. Why ppl on chemo can stand up? His life is a complete mess for all we kno

Give me specific examples of permanent damage.

Stop giving the impression that this drug is more devastating than it is. You will suffer boredom for a year and then go back to living normal. But it takes effort, not waiting around for a miracle to solve every aspect of your messed up life.

That's the problem you have no clue how devastating it is and you are downplaying it like some psychiatrists and drug companies. The dude literally talked about putting his head on the railroad in PM..nice recovery... big side effect of antipsychotic use is psychosis which can be permanent. The damage is the depression, the damage is the akathesia, the damage is the anhedonia it seems you have no clue what these drugs are and how they work. The side effects and desired effects come from the neurotoxicity. Not able to stand up in the shower due to dysautonomia also knows as orthostatic hypotension is a severe side effects and can lead to seizures

Randomized Controlled Trial Confirms That Antipsychotics Damage the Brain

A new study published in JAMA Psychiatry connects antipsychotics with damage to the brain in multiple areas.

www.madinamerica.com

 

[apsucks]

do we recover from this

Some people do 100% recover and some people don't.... most people recover to a large degree like 80 to 90% recovery. People want to hear everyone recovers they want a quick fix or instant gratification , that shit isn't real it takes a long ass time to recover and alot of people relapse because of the withdrawals

 

[t_xeplionhell]

That's the problem you have no clue how devastating it is and you are downplaying it like some psychiatrists and drug companies. The dude literally talked about putting his head on the railroad in PM..nice recovery... big side effect of antipsychotic use is psychosis which can be permanent. The damage is the depression, the damage is the akathesia, the damage is the anhedonia it seems you have no clue what these drugs are and how they work. The side effects and desired effects come from the neurotoxicity. Not able to stand up in the shower due to dysautonomia also knows as orthostatic hypotension is a severe side effects and can lead to seizures

Randomized Controlled Trial Confirms That Antipsychotics Damage the Brain

A new study published in JAMA Psychiatry connects antipsychotics with damage to the brain in multiple areas.

www.madinamerica.com

The invega users who downplay it are rare but are also often the ones who eventually try suicide (there is higher chance), I know such people personally and from my research.
Two of reasons that contribute for it are: cognitive decay and cognitive dissonance.

Of course this is not the only reason for suicide, other more common reasons are anhedonia, depression, numbness of emotion and experiences, no motivations, unability to like things, etc...

 

[t_xeplionhell]

Stop assuming and believing, look at the objective evidence which isn't unbigoted or unprejudiced.

 

[t_xeplionhell]

Every next month or two I notice small difference and thought/think I should continue because eventually I might recover fully.
It is what keeps you going in the long run and also it slowly gets easier. You also become more resistent to the stress it causes.

 

[t_xeplionhell]

do we recover from this

You recover slowly, it is possible that brain will fully recover after enough time.

 

[t_xeplionhell]

My only desire is to recover at least 80%, I dont want to live at less.

 

[Kaatrina]

withdrawals can take many years...six months antipsychotic use of shrinks the brain that is average lenght of an injection.
a guy just killed himself what you are saying is that invega got nothing to do with this ? He probably didn't live like an adult
the dude who started out this forum thread v1 still got permament issues eight years later he also made a thread on another website
Reality got nothing to do with pessimism

Narshe recovered and ended up being injected with risperidal again. He then decided to stay on APs. Tell the whole story.

That's the problem you have no clue how devastating it is and you are downplaying it like some psychiatrists and drug companies. The dude literally talked about putting his head on the railroad in PM..nice recovery... big side effect of antipsychotic use is psychosis which can be permanent. The damage is the depression, the damage is the akathesia, the damage is the anhedonia it seems you have no clue what these drugs are and how they work. The side effects and desired effects come from the neurotoxicity. Not able to stand up in the shower due to dysautonomia also knows as orthostatic hypotension is a severe side effects and can lead to seizures

Withdrawing from APs can cause dopamine supersensitivity which can lead to psychosis. That is NOT permanent. Stop talking out of your ass. A side effect of all APs is an increased suicide risk - that is also not permanent. Stop downplaying the fact that Merek had a hard time being sober - if you are addicted to drugs, you are going to have other issues whether you recover from invega or not.

Comparing this with chemo and standing up in showers shows how delusional you are
Did you had chemo ?

Btw the dude who couldn't stand up in the shower also lost his emotions permanently @dirtyinvega

Why you so scared about long term side effects bro

Dirty invega is on APs. So are you. Why you so scared to bring up that fact bro. You can't recover if you're on neuroleptic inhibitors that do the same thing as invega, period.

Some people do 100% recover and some people don't.... most people recover to a large degree like 80 to 90% recovery. People want to hear everyone recovers they want a quick fix or instant gratification , that shit isn't real it takes a long ass time to recover and alot of people relapse because of the withdrawals

If you don't believe you can recover, you won't. You can make up your own mindset and keep your brain on all the tracks that invega put it on if you BELIEVE that's what you are. Those who choose not to believe it find that their brain is capable of everything it was prior to the shot. I'm not disagreeing that being injected doesn't leave emotional scars in the form of trauma. But to say that your brain shrinks on a small amount if shots (and can't return to normal) and that your dopaminergenic system can not normalize over time isn't based in fact

People who downplay it are also often the ones who eventually try suicide (there is higher chance), I know such people personally and from my research.
Two of reasons that contribute for it are: cognitive decay and cognitive dissonance.

People kill themselves on invega because invega rips your soul away and destroys everything you care about and everything you thought you were. It's got nothing to do with whether you believe in the severity or permanence of its side effects or not. (Actually it may, but in the opposite of the way you imply - if they are completely hopeless for recovery. I know I was less suicidal after I had some hope from reading this forum.)

If you're going to spew this hopeless bullshit because you choose to live on APs while others have the courage to seek a recovered life you should take a ficking break.

 

[t_xeplionhell]

That's the problem you have no clue how devastating it is and you are downplaying it like some psychiatrists and drug companies. The dude literally talked about putting his head on the railroad in PM..nice recovery... big side effect of antipsychotic use is psychosis which can be permanent. The damage is the depression, the damage is the akathesia, the damage is the anhedonia it seems you have no clue what these drugs are and how they work. The side effects and desired effects come from the neurotoxicity. Not able to stand up in the shower due to dysautonomia also knows as orthostatic hypotension is a severe side effects and can lead to seizures

Randomized Controlled Trial Confirms That Antipsychotics Damage the Brain

A new study published in JAMA Psychiatry connects antipsychotics with damage to the brain in multiple areas.

www.madinamerica.com

Railroad is quite effective, this guy seems to be looking for effective method so that he can't be saved and given more AP.

 

[t_xeplionhell]

People kill themselves on invega because invega rips your soul away and destroys everything you care about and everything you thought you were. It's got nothing to do with whether you believe in the severity or permanence of its side effects or not. (Actually it may, but in the opposite of the way you imply - if they are completely hopeless for recovery. I know I was less suicidal after I had some hope from reading this forum.)

Seems like you missed the point I was making. I know everything you said is also the case but this is another type of situation which just contributes because they also don't know what's happening and are even more lost in the pain and the suffering.

 

[t_xeplionhell]

If you're going to spew this hopeless bullshit because you choose to live on APs while others have the courage to seek a recovered life you should take a ficking break.

I don't know if this was directed to me but I am very against APs and I am off any APs for 23 months.

 

[t_xeplionhell]

Some people do 100% recover and some people don't.... most people recover to a large degree like 80 to 90% recovery. People want to hear everyone recovers they want a quick fix or instant gratification , that shit isn't real it takes a long ass time to recover and alot of people relapse because of the withdrawals

Man if only I was 80%-90%....

 

[t_xeplionhell]

Today marks 4 months off the injection for me.

How is it going on for you?

 

[t_xeplionhell]

Have you done blood test for remaining dosage?

Even at 0/ml most effects and side-effects stay because it causes long lasting changes to the brain, it does lasting brain damage + impairment.