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Very interesting post, @Foreigner.

Seriously, the solution to most of our economic problems is to reclaim financial equity from the billionaires. It's not that hard. The fact that they're not doing it is either because they don't care, or because they are planning to end this economic system and create a new one. If the latter, then they will have to manufacture a financial crisis in order to do so, by squeezing the average person so tight that they will accept a new system. I strongly believe this is what's happening. Digital ID is coming and they won't use it to plan a utopia.

This is kind of confusing to me. I would say that the culture war is more an emergent property of tech innovations, whereas you seem to be implying that it's intended. Who is intending this? What is your evidence that there is intent here? What is the economic system that is being introduced?

I was also confused by the Digital ID part.
 
Or how actual trans people are just barely 0.001-0.002% of the population and certain leaders want to change everything for them.
yeah, sure... it's the "leaders"... nothing to do with trans and lgbtq (in general) support being popular and companies (like target) reaping the rewards, capitalism obviously works from the top down, just like socialism in the u.s.s.r...

if the powers that be want to have us all wearing platform shoes again, they will just make hundreds of millions of pairs of them and you will buy them and like them... just like the u.s.s.r... o wait....

incidentally, shitty beer is apparently not a good "target" for rainbow capitalism.
 
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Very interesting post, @Foreigner.



This is kind of confusing to me. I would say that the culture war is more an emergent property of tech innovations, whereas you seem to be implying that it's intended. Who is intending this? What is your evidence that there is intent here? What is the economic system that is being introduced?

I was also confused by the Digital ID part.

Frankfurt School

The Frankfurt School (German: Frankfurter Schule) is a school of social theory and critical philosophy associated with the Institute for Social Research, at Goethe University Frankfurt in 1929. Founded in the Weimar Republic (1918–1933), during the European interwar period (1918–1939), the Frankfurt School initially comprised intellectuals, academics, and political dissidents dissatisfied with the contemporary socio-economic systems (capitalist, fascist, communist) of the 1930s. The Frankfurt theorists proposed that social theory was inadequate for explaining the turbulent political factionalism and reactionary politics occurring in 20th century liberal capitalist societies. Critical of both capitalism and of Marxism–Leninism as philosophically inflexible systems of social organization, the School's critical theory research indicated alternative paths to realizing the social development of a society and a nation.[1]

The Frankfurt School perspective of critical investigation (open-ended and self-critical) is based upon Freudian, Marxist and Hegelian premises of idealist philosophy.[2] To fill the omissions of 19th-century classical Marxism, which did not address 20th-century social problems, they applied the methods of antipositivist sociology, psychoanalysis, and existentialism.[3] The School's sociologic works derived from syntheses of the thematically pertinent works of Immanuel Kant, Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, and Karl Marx, of Sigmund Freud and Max Weber, and of Georg Simmel and György Lukács.[4][5]

Like Karl Marx, the Frankfurt School concerned themselves with the conditions (political, economic, societal) that allow for social change realized by way of rational social institutions.[6] Their emphasis on the critical component of social theory derived from their attempts to overcome the ideological limitations of positivism, materialism, and determinism by returning to the critical philosophy of Kant and his successors in German idealism—principally the philosophy of Hegel, which emphasized dialectic and contradiction as intellectual properties inherent to the human grasp of material reality.

Since the 1960s, the critical-theory work of the Institute for Social Research has been guided by Jürgen Habermas's work in communicative rationality, linguistic intersubjectivity, and "the philosophical discourse of modernity."[7] More recently, the "third generation"[8] critical theorists Nikolas Kompridis, Raymond Geuss, and Axel Honneth have opposed Habermas's propositions, claiming he has undermined the original social-change purposes of critical-theory-problems, such as what should reason mean; analysis of the conditions necessary to realize social emancipation; and critiques of contemporary capitalism.[9]

The Frankfort School
 
If you read past examples of how this stuff comes about, and turns to genocide so quickly you may not be so quick to dismiss it. It’s the same shit as what mao did or what happened in Cambodia.
so wait, are you saying the powers that be are engineering this conflict so they can genocide trans people?
 
jw, are you also upset about children in beauty pageants? cause i find those tacky, to say the least, but i don't see how drag camp is any more outragrous than beauty pageants... what about it is different, if you feel they are different?

this shit in no way means they want to abolish the age of consent or legalize statutory rape
This is a common response I get from liberals who assume I am some conservative. I'm not cool with these pageants, I always found them weird and even if the intentions of the majority were wholesome it's still something that would attract pedophilic types. That shit is more prevalent than you think so I'd suggest always erring on the side of caution when it comes to potentially sexualizing very young children.

I think the trans movement has gone way too far and has become illiberal and harmful, but I truly do not think there is an underlying agenda beyond a misguided attempt at 'progress' above all else. The ability to use a particular opressed status to accrue power is enough of an explanation. There doesn't need to be any mysterious puppet master here beyond good old corruptible human nature.
There doesn't need to be but perhaps there is. Some people find it difficult or too confronting to believe that elites could be pushing for the legalization of pedophilia, but it is nothing new. A large group of French postmodernists and intellectuals signed a petition in the 70's calling for the removal of the age of consent in France. In the 80's there was a political party in the Netherlands which was advocating for something similar. The only way for pedophiles to satisfy their desires unabated is for it to be legal, so it makes sense that any individuals with these proclivities in positions of power would attempt to sway the law in their favor. But firstly the culture needs to change so it will be accepted - enter adult performers reading gender/sexual books to little children. If the majority of people accept this, then they will eventually accept things like removing the age of consent. That's why there's so much opposition to the drag queen story time, because a growing number of people realize where this is headed. And the question really is - why do drag queens feel the need to be around children? I've heard from some drag queens who consider it to be extremely inappropriate and are against it. But then the ones that aren't against it I'd be checking their hard drives.
 
The transgender stuff originally began in Weimar Germany at the Institute of Sex Research, run by a Jew named Magnus Hirschfeld. They were doing transgender surgeries even back then but when the Nazis came to power they put a stop to it all and burned the books. This put the movement back a few decades but then some of those Germans migrated to the US, then enter John Money and his abhorrent work. Now it's proliferated and has fully entrenched itself into American medicine and education. Some states are pushing back against it thankfully. And that's one reason why I think the USA is great, because you do have that sovereignty between the states and you can witness over time which one made the correct choice on a certain issue. Here in Australia the government just enacts a policy and people eat it. And last I saw they had drag queens reading to kids inside of the Victorian state parliament. Crazy world, man.
 
This is a common response I get from liberals who assume I am some conservative. I'm not cool with these pageants, I always found them weird and even if the intentions of the majority were wholesome it's still something that would attract pedophilic types. That shit is more prevalent than you think so I'd suggest always erring on the side of caution when it comes to potentially sexualizing very young children.
Yeah, these have creeped me out too but in a different way. A lot of these children are going through this so that one or both parents are able to live vicariously through their own child. It doesn't have to be sexual either. It steals a child's childhood from them early. Sometimes it's through a child's athletic or academic ability.

Just plain sad, but human so it appears.
 
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Why does almost every response from individuals of the alphabet movement rarely have any factual information and almost always goes to personal slandering instead of attacking the argument itself.? Let’s ground ourselves in reality instead of emotions in order to produce a beneficial debate. They say we have low iq in order to sway the viewers opinion and to disregard what we have to say. Are facts, not “our truth” really that scary.?

No, it's a fact. There's been studies on it. Look it up.
 
The transgender stuff originally began in Weimar Germany
i didn't know weimar germany extended all the way thousands of years back in time.

smartassery aside, no... no it did not start in the twentieth century, but maybe even has been a thing since we've been a species. "transgender stuff" documented at least 1,800 years ago.

and your post kinda reeks of nazi apologetics... not saying it's your intention, but it seemed you were implying your support here:
when the Nazis came to power they put a stop to it all and burned the books. This put the movement back a few decades (...)
Now it's proliferated and has fully entrenched itself into American medicine and education.
 
This is a common response I get from liberals who assume I am some conservative. I'm not cool with these pageants, I always found them weird and even if the intentions of the majority were wholesome it's still something that would attract pedophilic types. That shit is more prevalent than you think so I'd suggest always erring on the side of caution when it comes to potentially sexualizing very young children.


There doesn't need to be but perhaps there is. Some people find it difficult or too confronting to believe that elites could be pushing for the legalization of pedophilia, but it is nothing new. A large group of French postmodernists and intellectuals signed a petition in the 70's calling for the removal of the age of consent in France. In the 80's there was a political party in the Netherlands which was advocating for something similar. The only way for pedophiles to satisfy their desires unabated is for it to be legal, so it makes sense that any individuals with these proclivities in positions of power would attempt to sway the law in their favor. But firstly the culture needs to change so it will be accepted - enter adult performers reading gender/sexual books to little children. If the majority of people accept this, then they will eventually accept things like removing the age of consent. That's why there's so much opposition to the drag queen story time, because a growing number of people realize where this is headed. And the question really is - why do drag queens feel the need to be around children? I've heard from some drag queens who consider it to be extremely inappropriate and are against it. But then the ones that aren't against it I'd be checking their hard drives.
Also in the late 1970s through early 1990s NAMBLA would show up at LGB pride events and so called 'leaders' of the supposed LGB "community" advocated for them, for getting rid of the legal age of consent, etc. Allen Ginsburg, Pat Califia, Harry Hay, and yes even that idiot Dan Savage all did this. I wrote about this before in this thread or the one about drag queens at libraries and adults bringing their children to drag/TV bars and events. Of course leftists on here excused it, claimed it is fine, etc.
 
The transgender stuff originally began in Weimar Germany at the Institute of Sex Research, run by a Jew named Magnus Hirschfeld. They were doing transgender surgeries even back then but when the Nazis came to power they put a stop to it all and burned the books. This put the movement back a few decades but then some of those Germans migrated to the US, then enter John Money and his abhorrent work. Now it's proliferated and has fully entrenched itself into American medicine and education. Some states are pushing back against it thankfully. And that's one reason why I think the USA is great, because you do have that sovereignty between the states and you can witness over time which one made the correct choice on a certain issue. Here in Australia the government just enacts a policy and people eat it. And last I saw they had drag queens reading to kids inside of the Victorian state parliament. Crazy world, man.
It's always about money and lobbies. Monopoly engineering.
 
He went out of his way to force his ideology on students.
I’m not surprised that a university wouldn’t want its professors to be doing that.
Leftist teachers Kindergarten through 12, and university professors and instructors do this all the time with their political and social agendas, false revisionist history, personal politics, etc. Have you ever actually paid attention, or attended a school or college/university?

It is a West Coast USA community college in Fresno CA. With all of the METH, gangs, and violence there they focus on this? He did it as a joke or to get the students to think away from their leftist indoctrination and the propaganda of gender studies.

It is a community college class. Nobody is forcing the students to be there, to keep taking the class, etc. if they were offended, "triggered", or angry over candy wrappers they can leave the class and go cry about it, or just learn to have a thicker skin and be an adult.
 
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