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Misc Ketamine - is it OK to do it every day?

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Shant

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So I found a beautiful connection for ketamine, bought 10 grams. I take 60mg, IM. I find it’s a VERY different drug when you can target the dose vs snorting it. I do find that the effect is more enjoyable after taking a few days off. But I got clean from opiates recently and have been doing the ketamine everyday since.

What are the risks? What’s considered to be a “safe” regimen? Thanks.

Mods: if there’s a better forum for this, feel free to move it. 😎👍
 
Snafu in the Void said:
Ketamine can actually be very addictive and form a physical dependence when used daily, but most people don't use it that way because unlike narcotics it's not reinforcing or intrinsically addictive.

Almost everyone who becomes addicted to ketamine suffers some level of bladder damage, which can be extreme.
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I loved K; it was like a perfect DOC for me; total duration is about 1 hour (so doesn't fuck up an entire day or half day), had quick onset, and sedation was just perfect. But I got a minor pain urinating and frequent urination (and feeling like I never emptied my bladder every time I pee) with using just about ~70mg every other day or every 3 days (I usually do two lines, each around ~30mg S-K). I tried epigallocatechin gallate supplement, but it didn't help much, so I eventually had to quit. And the symptoms just disappeared.
 
Goddamit…there really are no free lunches in this world. Funny how that works.

Fortunately, even though I’ve probably done it over 200 times over the last 2 years, I’ve experienced nothing in the way of side effects. After reading that thread, I’m not even sure taking it once a week would be safe.

Does the ROA make any difference?
 
Shant said:
Goddamit…there really are no free lunches in this world. Funny how that works.

Fortunately, even though I’ve probably done it over 200 times over the last 2 years, I’ve experienced nothing in the way of side effects. After reading that thread, I’m not even sure taking it once a week would be safe.

Does the ROA make any difference?
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From what I've read, the main damage comes from ketamine's metabolites damaging the epithelial cells of the bladder lining (and deteriorating it). So I don't think ROA makes any difference since it'll be excreted by the kidney anyway (91% through urine and 3% through feces).

Harm Reduction - Mitigating bladder damage caused by Ketamine

I was reading about how exactly K causes bladder damage; it seems like Ketamine Bladder Syndrome (or "Ketamine Cystitis") is primarily caused due to K's metabolites damaging epithelial cells of the bladder lining, which can cause urine to pass through the pores caused due to the cell damage (and...
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ninjapirateroberts said:
I loved K; it was like a perfect DOC for me; total duration is about 1 hour (so doesn't fuck up an entire day or half day), had quick onset, and sedation was just perfect. But I got a minor pain urinating and frequent urination (and feeling like I never emptied my bladder every time I pee) with using just about ~70mg every other day or every 3 days (I usually do two lines, each around ~30mg S-K). I tried epigallocatechin gallate supplement, but it didn't help much, so I eventually had to quit. And the symptoms just disappeared.
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Yeah ditto, I felt like I discovered this gold mine that most people were in the dark about. I believe most people who do ketamine take too much. Roughly 200 trips and I’m fairly sure I’ve never been in a K-hole. I can get up and walk around on it, although my legs can feel pretty heavy when I do that.

But this? Bladder cancer? Unable to piss properly? No way. That’s a deal breaker. Maybe once or twice a month? Also, what’s considered a low/high dose?
 
ninjapirateroberts said:
I loved K; it was like a perfect DOC for me; total duration is about 1 hour (so doesn't fuck up an entire day or half day), had quick onset, and sedation was just perfect. But I got a minor pain urinating and frequent urination (and feeling like I never emptied my bladder every time I pee) with using just about ~70mg every other day or every 3 days (I usually do two lines, each around ~30mg S-K). I tried epigallocatechin gallate supplement, but it didn't help much, so I eventually had to quit. And the symptoms just disappeared.
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What’s that epi-something gallate supplement you mentioned?

Also, as someone who seems to have enjoyed K the same way I did, I feel compelled to ask you. Have you tried PCP and how do they compare? I have a friend who insists that K is the red headed step brother of K. Insists that PCP blows it away, but I find that so hard to believe. What do you think?
 
Shant said:
Yeah ditto, I felt like I discovered this gold mine that most people were in the dark about. I believe most people who do ketamine take too much. Roughly 200 trips and I’m fairly sure I’ve never been in a K-hole. I can get up and walk around on it, although my legs can feel pretty heavy when I do that.

But this? Bladder cancer? Unable to piss properly? No way. That’s a deal breaker. Maybe once or twice a month? Also, what’s considered a low/high dose?
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It all depends on how much and how frequently you take it. What would your typical line look like (exact milligrams or approximate values in milligrams)? How many lines/bumps do you do in a day? What would be your frequency (how many days of abstinence before doing ketamine)? And is your ketamine enantiomerically pure S-ketamine or racemic?
 
Shant said:
What’s that epi-something gallate supplement you mentioned?

Also, as someone who seems to have enjoyed K the same way I did, I feel compelled to ask you. Have you tried PCP and how do they compare? I have a friend who insists that K is the red headed step brother of K. Insists that PCP blows it away, but I find that so hard to believe. What do you think?
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Nope, I've never tried PCP.
 
Ketamine is fun once a month if that but every fucking day.... your trading addiction bro
Your bladder his done and I can tell you there is stories of people pissing blood and all type of horror stories. There is a guy here that was using 20g a day and you think thats impossible but dude you would be surprised how fast it goes
 
Hell no, it fucks up your bladder and urinary tract. Plus, ketamine builds up a ridiculous tolerance super fast. Idk what do ppl find cool about ket, it's not even euphoric at all. It's just a weird anesthetic, you lose coordination, feel dizzy but 4 me it doesn't feel good at all. I'll never understand k-heads.
 
Shant said:
Have you tried PCP and how do they compare? I have a friend who insists that K is the red headed step brother of K. Insists that PCP blows it away, but I find that so hard to believe. What do you think?
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PCP is another one of the flawed drugs. I liked it but it was unsettling. It's heyday was due to it being cheap to use, cheaper to make...people liked it because it was cheaper than weed.

Meanwhile, weed is pretty close to free. The problem with PCP is that it makes your behavior unpredictable. Have you tried it's pink haired stepsibling, mushrooms? Mushrooms are too strong for me but I'd rather a friend go on a shroom bender than an angel dust bender.

Shrooms can be QUITE fast acting if you smoke them.

What's your objection to molly? Molly is (ideally) spaced out every six weeks, but I question how much of a problem you'd run into doing it twice a month provided you otherwise took really good care of yourself.
 
nznity said:
Hell no, it fucks up your bladder and urinary tract. Plus, ketamine builds up a ridiculous tolerance super fast. Idk what do ppl find cool about ket, it's not even euphoric at all. It's just a weird anesthetic, you lose coordination, feel dizzy but 4 me it doesn't feel good at all. I'll never understand k-heads.
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me too, done it a couple times to see what it was like and of course I was already fucked up and didn't weight it and found myself in a K-hole wondering if I was gonna die or get back to normal LOL id do it again 10/10
 
gordonliddy said:
PCP is another one of the flawed drugs. I liked it but it was unsettling. It's heyday was due to it being cheap to use, cheaper to make...people liked it because it was cheaper than weed.

Meanwhile, weed is pretty close to free. The problem with PCP is that it makes your behavior unpredictable. Have you tried it's pink haired stepsibling, mushrooms? Mushrooms are too strong for me but I'd rather a friend go on a shroom bender than an angel dust bender.

Shrooms can be QUITE fast acting if you smoke them.

What's your objection to molly? Molly is (ideally) spaced out every six weeks, but I question how much of a problem you'd run into doing it twice a month provided you otherwise took really good care of yourself.
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PCP bender just lands you in jail lol
Smoked it twice first time a blunt and didn't feel anything, it took time so we packed a bong of organ dipped in dust and after the first bong rip I remember raising my head in the back seat of 1994 Honda Civic packed with 5 high school kids LMFAO I miss high school
Dust, coke and heriod were everywhere in high school...it was easier for me to get the stuff then than now.... IDK what it was back then but I was fearless. The coke from when I was in high school was real coke and not bullshit that I got when I went to college... you would think different but I grew up in a major city so drugs were of high purity and cheap and if you knew the right block you could cop and go and be back in school in 30 minutes. Drug dealers where grew up LOVED selling to kids and would hook us up all the time with 50% and shit if we help them do shit so we always were rocking around doing crazy shit

Anyone ever see the high school basketball diaores? Thats shit is so close to my high school experience its fucking wild.
 
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Shant said:
Yeah ditto, I felt like I discovered this gold mine that most people were in the dark about. I believe most people who do ketamine take too much. Roughly 200 trips and I’m fairly sure I’ve never been in a K-hole. I can get up and walk around on it, although my legs can feel pretty heavy when I do that.

But this? Bladder cancer? Unable to piss properly? No way. That’s a deal breaker. Maybe once or twice a month? Also, what’s considered a low/high dose?
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I only use K to go straight into a K-Hole.
I snort between 200 and 300mg in one line and that's it for the day, that would be a strong but not crazy dose.
Seen people doing 1 gram lines and be able to talk and move, that's crazy.
 
Phobos said:
I only use K to go straight into a K-Hole.
I snort between 200 and 300mg in one line and that's it for the day, that would be a strong but not crazy dose.
Seen people doing 1 gram lines and be able to talk and move, that's crazy.
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it lasts like an hour to two before you come back right? or is quicker, it felt like awhile like 20 minutes I was "GONE" like I was lost in the fog of life or in my brain, closest to PCP one ever gotten but PCP I knew what was going on around me but didn't give fuck
 
Delmonte421 said:
it lasts like an hour to two before you come back right? or is quicker, it felt like awhile like 20 minutes I was "GONE" like I was lost in the fog of life or in my brain, closest to PCP one ever gotten but PCP I knew what was going on around me but didn't give fuck
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Coming back to being sober from 200-300mg takes a while but it's gradual.
I don't recommend trying to do anything other than laying down in bed for 90 minutes, and not drive or doing anything dangerous for 4-5 hours minimum.
After 5 to 10 minutes from a K-hole size line I'll be just locked in position tripping balls...

Funny story once I thought it would be a good idea to clean the metal mirror I use to snort in the bathroom sink right after doing a line.
About 90 minutes later my brother came back home and found me bent forward 90 degrees, staring at the mirror with water running over it, I had been locked in that position the whole time.
They took pics and then helped me into bed.To this day they use one of those pics as contact image in their phones so it pops up every time I ring them.
 
I reach hole territory somewhere between 175 and 300mg depending if it’s S isomer or racemic, tolerance and mental state. Everything over 350mg and experience would go from recreational to anesthetic experience within minutes.
 
nznity said:
Hell no, it fucks up your bladder and urinary tract. Plus, ketamine builds up a ridiculous tolerance super fast. Idk what do ppl find cool about ket, it's not even euphoric at all. It's just a weird anesthetic, you lose coordination, feel dizzy but 4 me it doesn't feel good at all. I'll never understand k-heads.
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You’re making my point dude. I believe most people do it wrong. Snorting may be more convenient but good luck targeting a dose. You probably did too much or too little. It is ABSOLUTELY euphoric. And extremely empathogenic. Do it with a female friend and you’ll be hugging it cuddling the whole way. Do you really think I’d be doing it daily if it wasn’t amazing?

Ketamine has a very small dosage window. If I do 40mg IM, it feels like it never fully kicked in. If I do 80mg I’ll just lay there, maybe even fall asleep. But at 60mg IM, if it hits you the right way, it’s like nothing else you’ve ever tried.

I’ll put it this way. You ever do a drug that made you feel so good you literally smile and/or laugh the whole time? It’s super rare. I know I smiled after my first line of coke. MDMA maybe an hand full of times. Other than that, K is the only drug that has that effect on me. Roughly 1 out of every 5 trips.
 
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