Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v 6.0

[roofmaan1]

That’s a very good way to do it all natural no meds.

what meds would speed up the process

 

[roofmaan1]

I was on antipsycotis for only 5 months is that enough to cause brain changes and long term affects

 

[Merek]

what meds would speed up the process

No pharmaceutical meds would help speed up the process in fact it would slow it down only sobriety healthy eating exercising and other good habits will help speed it up.

 

[Kaatrina]

You would also be proof that it isn't because you recovered, isn't it?

Certainly, I was just trying to expand on the idea that "brain changes" are something that can happen in a number of ways because the brain isn't static.

I don't think what I said is bs at all. All four of the suggestions (after the first one) did not work for me and I tried them all. There are surely many people who have never recovered who have also tried these things without effect.

There is no scientific proof those four suggestions help in the case of antipsychotic induced depression and sexual dysfunction.

For people who have anecdotally claimed such suggestions have helped them recover faster, I believe it is mere coincidence and misattribution--these individuals just happened to recover with some quickness, between 3-12 months. Being off the offending medication and waiting on time and the body to heal was the true reason and not any particular suggestion, like exercise, healthy diet, mental and social stimulation and activity or talking to mental health professionals about additional strategies. Most of the arguments otherwise seem to me simply too vague, although if you wanted to point me to particular claims and posts I'll re-examine them. If you insist in your case, for instance, that any of those things--exercise, healthy diet, mental and social stimulation/activity and talking to mental health professions about additional strategies helped you, could you summarize why? How long did you have paliperidone induced depression and sexual dysfunction, and when were you doing these things, when did you notice they were starting to help (while you had the drug induced problems), etc?

Thanks

You've only been off ADs for 3 months. You could have PSSD. You could also be suffering withdrawal.

if I did meth could that reset the dopamine system

There is no "reset". People have tried everything in the four years I've been on this forum. Time is the only thing that works.

does anyone have a problem focusing? does focus come back?

It all comes back. Buckle down, be patient, and find out how you can cope with living life without dopamine receptors. Imagine yourself as a statue (just kidding, you can't imagine anything yet, but acting like one helps sometimes).

I’m really disappointed in this forum right now. I feel like we should all be focusing on recovering and recovering from all substances that potentially cause harmful effects in one way or another and embrace clean eating and a healthy lifestyle and light to moderate exercise. I understand certain things cause temporary relief, but recovery I feel should be something of a long term plan.

Further , if we want to stay off APs permanently, we need to focus on retaining habits that are stable & don't have risk of relapse - if you got injected, you exhibited some sort of behavior that caused that which was related to some sort of imbalance at the time. Playing with hard to control psychedelics is like playing with fire

I believe you should abstain from most substances yes, but here’s some scientific evidence micro and macro dosing psychedelics helps repair broken brains increase plasticity and neural connections, https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...d-dmt-amphetamines-ketamine-a8395511.html?amp

This is just covert advertising by the people who make money selling this sh-t. No one ever found themselves "healed" through ketamine, they just found themselves needing more ketamine. Just like the guy who won money gambling just ended up gambling more...there is no "secret cure", don't make yourself dependent on anything and you will be truly free

 

[roofmaan1]

look at me am statue

 

[Merek]

Certainly, I was just trying to expand on the idea that "brain changes" are something that can happen in a number of ways because the brain isn't static.

You've only been off ADs for 3 months. You could have PSSD. You could also be suffering withdrawal.

There is no "reset". People have tried everything in the four years I've been on this forum. Time is the only thing that works.

It all comes back. Buckle down, be patient, and find out how you can cope with living life without dopamine receptors. Imagine yourself as a statue (just kidding, you can't imagine anything yet, but acting like one helps sometimes).

Further , if we want to stay off APs permanently, we need to focus on retaining habits that are stable & don't have risk of relapse - if you got injected, you exhibited some sort of behavior that caused that which was related to some sort of imbalance at the time. Playing with hard to control psychedelics is like playing with fire

This is just covert advertising by the people who make money selling this sh-t. No one ever found themselves "healed" through ketamine, they just found themselves needing more ketamine. Just like the guy who won money gambling just ended up gambling more...there is no "secret cure", don't make yourself dependent on anything and you will be truly free

It mentioned in there that psychedelics have a greater benefit then ketamine, I’ve taken LSD for 3 years atleast over 30 times and it’s done nothing but help me and it’s completely non addictive for me and pretty much everyone and I have an addictive personality, a lot of these stories of “LSD” causing uncontrollable paranoia and psychosis are of people taking fake LSD cut with 25i which has a bitter taste and is much more potent then LSD lots of street LSD is cut with 25i but as long as you’re safe and test your drugs to make sure they’re real pure LSD, it is relatively harmless for most people imo LSD gets a bad reputation cause it’s very effective at treating anhedonia and depression and if it were to become legal anti depressant companies would lose hella money, now I’m not recommending people just go and take macro doses of LSD as it can definitely cause intense anxiety its definitely a lot safer to take a micro dose at first it’s like dipping your toes in the lake but you’re not fully immersed in it you’ll be able too tell if you wana go any further or turn back.

 

[Kaatrina]

look at me am statue

You still have your humor on invega, that's a good sign

It mentioned in there that psychedelics have a greater benefit then ketamine, I’ve taken LSD for 3 years atleast over 30 times and it’s done nothing but help me and it’s completely non addictive for me and pretty much everyone and I have an addictive personality, a lot of these stories of “LSD” causing uncontrollable paranoia and psychosis are of people taking fake LSD cut with 25i which has a bitter taste and is much more potent then LSD lots of street LSD is cut with 25i but as long as you’re safe and test your drugs to make sure they’re real pure LSD, it is relatively harmless for most people imo LSD gets a bad reputation cause it’s very effective at treating anhedonia and depression and if it were to become legal anti depressant companies would lose hella money, now I’m not recommending people just go and take macro doses of LSD as it can definitely cause intense anxiety its definitely a lot safer to take a micro dose at first it’s like dipping your toes in the lake but you’re not fully immersed in it you’ll be able too tell if you wana go any further or turn back.

Well....you did wind up on invega sustenna

 

[RecoveryInProgress]

It mentioned in there that psychedelics have a greater benefit then ketamine, I’ve taken LSD for 3 years atleast over 30 times and it’s done nothing but help me and it’s completely non addictive for me and pretty much everyone and I have an addictive personality, a lot of these stories of “LSD” causing uncontrollable paranoia and psychosis are of people taking fake LSD cut with 25i which has a bitter taste and is much more potent then LSD lots of street LSD is cut with 25i but as long as you’re safe and test your drugs to make sure they’re real pure LSD, it is relatively harmless for most people imo LSD gets a bad reputation cause it’s very effective at treating anhedonia and depression and if it were to become legal anti depressant companies would lose hella money, now I’m not recommending people just go and take macro doses of LSD as it can definitely cause intense anxiety its definitely a lot safer to take a micro dose at first it’s like dipping your toes in the lake but you’re not fully immersed in it you’ll be able too tell if you wana go any further or turn back.

Anything that is habitual can be considered an addiction. And doing something 30 times is habitual.

Here’s a story of someone that thought tripping was a really safe thing to do:

Teen High on Salvia Survives 60-Foot Fall After Jumping Out Apartment Complex Window

Video shows Sam Taylor running from his "trip-sitter," who's left in horror after his friend launches himself out of the hallway window in an apartment complex in Salt Lake City a year ago.

toofab.com

 

[roofmaan1]

You still have your humor on invega, that's a good sign

Well....you did wind up on invega sustenna

just got off of invaga sus 1month and 1 week

 

[UnluckyXeplion]

How you feeling @UnluckyXeplion, you doing better nowadays?

I'm feeling better yes, sexually better at least...
I get urges almost like before, same timeframes, easier time reaching orgasm, sensitivity improved dramatically, I feel the pleasure and lust etc. Still room for improvements but it's so much better than before. It's almost back to what it was.
It's extremely pleasurable after I retain for 2 or 3 days. The more I retain, the more pleasure and lust I'm feeling.
Anhedonia a bit better, I have more patience for watching YouTube videos, I can actually watch a video till the end without stopping, but still not much joy and still feeling bored.
Appetite needs to improve, belly fat and puffy cheeks still needs to go away and more.

I hope I'll fully recover within a year from now.

 

[roofmaan1]

I'm feeling better yes, sexually better at least...
I get urges almost like before, same timeframes, easier time reaching orgasm, sensitivity improved dramatically, I feel the pleasure and lust etc. Still room for improvements but it's so much better than before. It's almost back to what it was.
It's extremely pleasurable after I retain for 2 or 3 days. The more I retain, the more pleasure and lust I'm feeling.
Anhedonia a bit better, I have more patience for watching YouTube videos, I can actually watch a video till the end without stopping, but still not much joy and still feeling bored.
Appetite needs to improve, belly fat and puffy cheeks still needs to go away and more.

I hope I'll fully recover within a year from now.

how long have you been off

 

[UnluckyXeplion]

how long have you been off

Almost 8 months now

 

[roofmaan1]

Almost 8 months now

i just got off a month ago

 

[UnluckyXeplion]

i just got off a month ago

Good luck

 

[roofmaan1]

Good luck

thanks am going to try making lemonade out of the injections

 

[UnluckyXeplion]

thanks am going to try making lemonade out of the injections

You read my signature... haha

 

[prinzfrost]

You've only been off ADs for 3 months. You could have PSSD. You could also be suffering withdrawal.

I don't think I have Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction at all, because I took fluoxetine in 2011/2012 and didn't have such problems. My sexual dysfunction began in December 2021 after using paliperidone for 5 months. At that point, I had not touched an antidepressant since fluoxetine in 2012 or possibly 2015 and I've never had sexual dysfunction whatsoever in my entire life until December 2021. My paliperidone-induced depression began at the same time in December 2021, so I did start on antidepressants which of course didn't work, in 2022, running through fluoxetine, wellbutrin, escitalopram, pramipexole and duloxetine. There is no way that sexual dysfunction that was identical to the paliperidone-induced sexual dysfunction just happened to appear at some point along the way in 2022 and that seemlessly, paliperidone-induced sexual dysfunction disappeared while some antidepressant-induced one/s replaced it and they were both identical (and all totally seemless) in total severity. There is no reason to believe this since the depression induced by paliperidone has also remained and not changed, just like the sexual dysfunction.

I am not suffering from withdrawal. I have never had withdrawal from any psychiatric medication whatsoever ever. In fact, no psychiatric medicines have ever given me any benefit in my entire life! I was prescribed fluoxetine in 2011/2012 and 2015 when I didn't actually have depression and the alleged depression diagnosis was false because the DSM criteria were not even close to being met! I have never actually had psychosis because the allegations were falsified by providers I have often irrefutably proven to be malicious falsifiers of records, the limited allegations were contradicted by other providers and my work, academic and writing record. Additionally, every psychotic diagnoses I have been given was impossible because the DSM criteria were not even close to being met. That's why it should surprise no one that these medications offered no benefit. Likewise, having no benefit, my body did not depend on them in any way and there were no withdrawal effects whatsoever, ever. This is also true for benzodiazepines I was given in 2012 for physical pain (caused by antipsychotics) (didn't help) and sleeping medications for insomnia caused by paliperidone in Dec 2021/early 2022 (these were also useless). What I have had, rather than "withdrawal effects," is, as I have said in previous posts, many long-term and some permanent, incurable, untreatable injuries from these antidepressants and antipsychotics.

The psychiatric drug caused injuries: 16 months and counting of paliperidone-induced depression and sexual dysfunction; ~10.5 years of abilify-induced obesity; ~5 months of abilify-induced breathing problems (this is the second abilify-induced breathing problems extended episode in my life); ~9 months of Wellbutrin induced diarrhea; ~13 months of fluoxetine and then wellbutrin (~9 months out) induced heartburn.

The breathing problems are like being strangled repeatedly, day after day, week after week. The sexual dysfunction are internal sexual injuries and a sexual assault counselor concurred with me that I have been violated and what has occurred is at least sexual assault, if not rape. All these injuries and the severe suffering and pain they have caused constitute repeated torture--many different kinds of repeated torture on a daily basis.

Those who administered the guilty drugs have wielded dangerous weapons--there is no safe use for them because the only way to avoid their dangers is to not use them at all. Every use is just as potentially injurious and deadly as the next, as low doses with fast onset of severe side effects and injuries have proven, as has onset of severe side effects and injuries at later times, at practically any and every interval possible, also proven! The injuriousness is not affected by supposed "good intentions;" the existence of therapeutic benefits does not affect the injuriousness.

This is in contrast to using guns, sex toys and doing gynecological exams, where lawful and/or nonharmful use can be separated from nefarious, injurious and dangerous use.

I am going after the guilty parties for committing aggravated assault, many counts of attempted aggravated assault, many counts of attempted sexual assault, sexual assault (resulting in permanent sexual injury), rape (resulting in permanent sexual injury), many counts of many kinds of attempted torture, many counts of many kinds of torture, many counts of attempted strangulation, many counts of strangulation and many counts of attempted murder. In my own state's statutes, these are severe felonies which result in the convicted being sentenced for long, long prison terms and subject to severe fines and rightly so. These guilty parties are also irrefutably guilty of other crimes, like medical records falsification, legal and medical sabotage and obstruction of justice, criminal injurious medical malpractice and negligence, reckless endangerment, fraud and unjust enrichment and defamation. There are guilty parties who were also parties to these crimes, like clinics, hospitals, organizations, other staff, government that variously approved of illegal community commitment/forced medication (it was in violation of the rules on those commitments) and the pharmaceutical companies that make the injurious drugs. There should be a lot of people going to prison for a very long time.

Unfortunately, private attorneys and law firms refuse to help me. There is plenty of actionable cause, my case has infinite merit and I have vast overwhelming evidence and lots of irrefutable evidence and the statutes of limitations remain almost entirely intact in all these matters. The rejecting firms refuse to disclose reasons. Justice departments refuse to help me or respond, as well. Lawmakers and executives refuse to respond, although my pleas have not been repeated, intense and comprehensive enough. Health departments and professional oversight agencies refuse to help. Specifically, my state's professional oversight agency recently rejected one of my complaints (and has not responded to the other three) and refused to disclose reasons for doing so, claiming that they never record reasons and do not have to disclose them. I've petitioned justice departments and private attorneys and law firms for help on separate but slightly related matters as well as completely unrelated matters, all of which have great merit, actionable cause and strong and sometimes irrefutable evidence and likewise, have received either no response or rejections without any reasons disclosed. I have also pursued justice in other states on behalf of people, victims and crimes not related to my cases, only to find that justice departments in those other states also refuse to respond and investigate serious crimes for which irrefutable proof exists! News media and NGOs also refuse to reply to my pleas, although my pleas sent to them specifically have not been, very often, precisely about any of these cases I am pursuing but only related to some of their topics, generally. Even health care providers outside mental health are making my life and my treatment/measurement of these injuries as difficult as possible (and there is little doubt they aren't able to treat nor cure them), commit falsification of records themselves, delay and obstruct care and scheduling, become rude and argumentative and play games, etc. When it comes to psychiatrists, I've contacted over 200 of them in America and the world about treatments/cures for paliperidone induced sexual dysfunction and depression, as well as advocacy about this particular problem, with a 20% response rate and those responders not committing to any action or help and having no answers. I need to reach out to larger numbers of psychiatrists for the other injuries and advocacy measures related to medication dangers and non-medication misconduct dangers. I need to reach out to huge numbers of regular doctors and scientists about these injuries and their measurement, healing and treatment. In a few of the outreach areas mentioned, there is still lots more work to do before I can suspect corruption, but the more outreach I do, the more evidence I collect, the clearer the picture will become in this regard.

I don't know how many of you have taken these exhaustive routes I have? Many should try, to see what the results are. If you have already, it would be helpful to share your progress or lackthereof with the rest of us.

If many innocent victims with strong evidence and cases are being denied help and justice, we will know for sure that corruption is very widespread. Such widespread corruption is not acceptable. 260+ million unique people worldwide are on antipsychotics in the last 10 years, many more on antidepressants, and 16 million unique Americans on antipsychotics in recent years and 34 million unique Americans on antidepressants in recent years; all these numbers are also a fair barometer for those exposed to non-medication crimes of mental health providers and our mental health systems. With such massive numbers of people exposed to these dangers, crimes and harms, even very small rates of victims from the total pool will be massive, massive numbers of people who then would be subject to widespread corruption and unable to attain justice and unable to obtain healing. Just societies don't deny such massive numbers of victims healing and justice, period. Just societies don't ignore such massive numbers of victims and such massive dangers, period. If this is what our societies are becoming, then, fundamentally, law, order, morality, compassionate health care and safety are rapidly disappearing.

If you need detailed evidence of any of my claims, just ask. I've likely listed them before but to list them in every post would make my posts unreadably long.

 

[Merek]

You still have your humor on invega, that's a good sign

Well....you did wind up on invega sustenna

I got psychosis from kratom, lack of sleep, and lack of eating, I hadn’t taken LSD for 2 months before my psychotic episode.

 

[Merek]

<irrelevant - SMod>

Salvia is a completely different drug then LSD and mushrooms never once did I suggest anyone take salvia & doing something 30 times over the course of 3 years isnt habitual, there’s 1,092 days total in 3 years.

 

[Merek]

I'm feeling better yes, sexually better at least...
I get urges almost like before, same timeframes, easier time reaching orgasm, sensitivity improved dramatically, I feel the pleasure and lust etc. Still room for improvements but it's so much better than before. It's almost back to what it was.
It's extremely pleasurable after I retain for 2 or 3 days. The more I retain, the more pleasure and lust I'm feeling.
Anhedonia a bit better, I have more patience for watching YouTube videos, I can actually watch a video till the end without stopping, but still not much joy and still feeling bored.
Appetite needs to improve, belly fat and puffy cheeks still needs to go away and more.

I hope I'll fully recover within a year from now.

That’s good I’m glad you’re doing much better , and ya it shouldn’t taken any longer then 18 months off the injections for you to 100% recover at this rate.