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Gun Pulled & Man Maced As Neo-Nazi Protestors Surround Family Drag Storytime Event

People claiming that drag events are "setting us back decades" fail to remember how recently we had mainstream homophobia in this country.
Until about 2012-2013, major Democratic presidential candidates like Hilary Clinton & Barack Obama OPPOSED gay marriage.
Nazis and homophobes have always and will always be here.
They aren't going to suddenly appear out of another dimension and become homophobes because some guy in Ohio put on a family-friendly drag event.
It is fucking ridiculous to claim otherwise and to blame the drag event for their own persecution.

I am baffled by the focus that many of you seem to have here.
You are attempting to somehow rationalize the claim that drag events are supposedly causing homophobia while ignoring the fact that literal Nazis are showing up to children's events in America in [current-year].
Do you not think that the latter is a bigger issue than the former?
 
arrall said:
People claiming that drag events are "setting us back decades" fail to remember how recently we had mainstream homophobia in this country.
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I fail to remember? I think my recollection would be much better than yours. How old were you in 2012? 9 or 10?

You didn't respond or acknowledge my last comment to you on the subject of blame:

"if you pour gasoline on a fire, is it the gasoline's fault, your fault, the fire's fault?

the reality is that it all matters"

you've agreed that drag shenanigans have nothing to do with trans people, but for some reason you refuse to acknowledge the absurdity of conflating them. I've explained why it is dangerous and counterproductive, but I don't hear any meaningful response.
 
sunday.bird said:
The only explanation I have is: Americans are a bit repressed due to the overwhelming Christian presence in US society. Pretty sure that has (at least) something to do with it.
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That might have true well over 200+ years ago in really small isolated areas and communities of the USA such as small towns and villages in the middle of nowhere, but it is not true now and has not been for almost 100 years. In my state and region of the USA, even before the USA and 13 colonies were created and before the British arrived here-we were originally part of Sweden and then the Netherlands, and it has always been very German here, we have always had freedom of religion, or seperation of church and state.

I have gay and bisexual friends from different countries and cultures, and when I have told a gay German friend about what it has been like here since the early 1960s during the sexual revolution, he replied that in his region of Germany how everyone was expected by society and family to marry, have children, stay married, have a summer home, and be completely heterosexual. He did say that sex/sexuality are meant to be repressed or completely private, and he said how sex and someone's sexuality is way too public in the USA. A gay friend from Southern France who lived in the USA for nine years feels the same way. I told them how I can understand their different opinions and how yes sometimes it is a bit too open here, it is not one big orgy but I told him how I have seen gay men in all areas of my city who frankly and honestly tell the entire world how they are Poz or HIV+, or living with AIDS with completely visible biohazard and scorpion tattoos, facial wasting, etc.
 
mal3volent said:
"if you pour gasoline on a fire, is it the gasoline's fault, your fault, the fire's fault?
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The issue here is that people aren't starting a fire in the first place just by putting on a family friendly drag event.
Nobody is forcing parents to allow their children to attend these events.
If someone wants to take their kid to watch a gay man dressed up in drag as a woman (or woman dressed up as a man) reading a children's story about being nice to each other, I see no issue with that.
America is supposed to be about being able to parent your child however you see fit.
 
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alasdairm said:
i suspect, as with most things, there's a little more to this than "there's only one reason anybody does it - they're a fruit cake..."

alasdair
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That's not what I said, so don't misquote me - I was trying to explain something and of course, you gotta pounce on the one thing that you felt that I said was out of line

I'm always glad to know that you don't like what I have to say - always....ok?

I threw fruit cake in there to simplify it - pedophiles can fall under the fruit cake category - and why would you wanna be around kids when expressing yourself in an adult manner? It's highly suspect to me and I'd err on the side of caution with my kid or any kids that are under my protection because that's my job as an adult
 
mal3volent said:
that makes sense. trans people want to be recognized as normal so in order to accomplish that goal the left promotes these freakish entities reading to and/or gyrating in the proximity of children.

excellent strategy :\
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I do think that this focus on cartoonish gender bending is probably really upsetting to all the trans people who are just trying to blend in and not be noticed as anyone except "Frank" or "Alice" (random names I picked).

mal3volent said:
so what's this about then

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I get your point with the first picture but what's wrong with the other ones? What's wrong with people using the LGBT rainbow symbol with a slogan to shield kids from hate? I don't get it? And the second one looks like just a picture of a trans rights protest... I don't get how that has anything to do with the point you're trying to make?

DeathIndustrial88 said:
I don't see anything inherently wrong with a man in womans clothes reading to children, but when it becomes sexual, that's a different story.
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That's where I land on it. I disagree with Krink that men dressing in women's clothing is necessarily sexual. Sure, sometimes, or even often, it is. But sometimes it's just costume. But I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, I've never dressed in womens' clothing.
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
to put it bluntly - if you're a dude, dressing up as a woman, it's because you wanna be fucked by another dude - unless it's Halloween

other than Halloween, what other reason are you doing that for?

tell me


so yes - it's got everything to do with sex
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I have heard and read that most transvestites are heterosexual men. I am not sure how true, or false this is? Film director Ed Wood was A transvestite in his private life, and heterosexual.



I have known heterosexual men who dress up as women or in women's clothing for a costume party, play or film, or one friend he bought his on/off again GF slutty leopard skin panties for her 16th birthday when we were all 16/17 and at her birthday party he took his clothes off and put the women's clothing on. Of course she took a photo of him like this.
 
Xorkoth said:
get your point with the first picture but what's wrong with the other ones? What's wrong with people using the LGBT rainbow symbol with a slogan to shield kids from hate? I don't get it? And the second one looks like just a picture of a trans rights protest... I don't get how that has anything to do with the point you're trying to make?
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I had just gotten arral to agree that drag shows had nothing to do with trans rights, so I was supplying pictures that showed drag shows being used as the grounds for trans rights protests.
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
That's not what I said, so don't misquote me - I was trying to explain something and of course, you gotta pounce on the one thing that you felt that I said was out of line
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yeah, you're right. i paraphrased when what you actually wrote is there in black and white for anybody to see:

Mr. Krinkle said:
to put it bluntly - if you're a dude, dressing up as a woman, it's because you wanna be fucked by another dude - unless it's Halloween
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Mr. Krinkle said:
you gotta be some sorta fruit cake to be doing something like that with some sort of sexual deviance behind it
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at least own what you're writing man.

alasdair
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
I have heard and read that most transvestites are heterosexual men. I am not sure how true, or false this is? Film director Ed Wood was A transvestite in his private life, and heterosexual.



I have known heterosexual men who dress up as women or in women's clothing for a costume party, play or film, or one friend he bought his on/off again GF slutty leopard skin panties for her 16th birthday when we were all 16/17 and at her birthday party he took his clothes off and put the women's clothing on. Of course she took a photo of him like this.
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I can't say for sure if it's totally true or not.
Obviously there are some heterosexual men who dress up in womens clothes.

As a gay man myself, I find seeing another man dressed up like a woman a huge turn on off honestly. So I don't think it's strictly a "gay" thing.
And I've always emulated the style I'm attracted to (rugged, militaristic, manly). I'd feel really uncomfortable dressed as a girl. lol
 
do you know what my kid would say to me if i brought her to drag story time?

she'd say "this is weird"

ya know why?

because it is weird
 
SpiralusSancti said:
My english might be a bit rusty but they bring, not allow, their children there.
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Yeah this is my point.
Parents are bringing their kids to drag events of their own free will.
Family drag events aren’t some grand scheme to brainwash or groom children.
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
My kid wins the kindness award every year at school - always smiling

And don't ever talk shit about my kid again - I don't give a fuck who you are on here - you can go fuck yourself
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Sorry Krink, I was just making a bad joke.
i didn’t intend to attack your kid or anything.

I’ve had a long night of partying (went to a huge punk show tonight) and just got home so I’m gonna log off and get some rest.
 
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