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Gun Pulled & Man Maced As Neo-Nazi Protestors Surround Family Drag Storytime Event

it's like your buddy Putin - he's fighting "nazis" too - took the page right out of your own playbook - but for some reason, you don't believe that story


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People pick and choose which arguments they respond to. If they can talk about nazis that's easy pay dirt. Argue with a transphobe... again, really easy. Much harder to refute actual nuanced and well thought out criticism of your beliefs.
 
I'm just saying, I'm totally open to it all and I've been around the scene pretty much my whole adult life - I've been to wig stock, I've been to Lucky Cheng's (wait staff all in drag), the club scene, all of it

But leave the kids out of it - there's just no place for it - there will eventually be a time for it, but now is not the time - kids need to be kids - keep your adult antics in the adult section - that's all I'm saying

And don't blame the nazis every time ppl don't agree with your far out agenda that's obviously over the top
 
People pick and choose which arguments they respond to. If they can talk about nazis that's easy pay dirt. Argue with a transphobe... again, really easy. Much harder to refute actual nuanced and well thought out criticism of your beliefs.
Ok but the story's about Nazis this time?

I don't know what point you guys are trying to make, it's literally about Nazis threatening people I'm not trying to embellish, y'all are ignoring the point to make your own arguments.

If this was any other kind of gathering you wouldn't give a shit.
 
i'm glad you're not done krink - don't say you're leaving if you're not leaving :)

But leave the kids out of it - there's just no place for it - there will eventually be a time for it, but now is not the time - kids need to be kids - keep your adult antics in the adult section - that's all I'm saying

would you say that you feel you know what's better for people's kids than they do? they should listen to you and take your advice on how to raise their own kids rather than chart their own course?

alasdair
 
I don't know what point you guys are trying to make, it's literally about Nazis threatening people I'm not trying to embellish, y'all are ignoring the point to make your own arguments.

go reread my posts. I'm making a very clear and relevant point concerning the nazis and how they have been emboldened by what they see as an assault on children.
 
would you say that you feel you know what's better for people's kids than they do? they should listen to you and take your advice on how to raise their own kids rather than chart their own course?

alasdair

I probably do know better - but you know what? I'm not trying to stop anybody from doing what they're doing with their kids - go ahead and do whatever you want - but don't expect me to agree with it and not call it inappropriate when that's clearly what it is to me
 
to put it bluntly - if you're a dude, dressing up as a woman, it's because you wanna be fucked by another dude - unless it's Halloween

other than Halloween, what other reason are you doing that for?

tell me

Extremely easy to tell you. Drag queens are entertainers. Hence drag "act".

You're welcome :)

Oh also, not all drag queens are gay (or men).
 
to put it bluntly - if you're a dude, dressing up as a woman, it's because you wanna be fucked by another dude - unless it's Halloween

other than Halloween, what other reason are you doing that for?

tell me


so yes - it's got everything to do with sex

No. It does not have everything to do with sex. Maybe educate yourself in future.
 
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Some straight men dress as women because it turns them on (autogynephilia I believe it's called),
Some gay men dress as woman for drag shows but look like normal dudes in their every day life.
And then you have trans people which dress as the gender they prefer 24/7.



So technically protesting a drag event isn't really "transphobia".
I think too many people are getting trans and drag mixed up these days. Not to mention not every guy who dresses as a woman is gay, nor is every gay guy some flamboyant wannabe girl. Some people dress in drag for entertainment, some people dress in womans clothes for sexual reasons & some do it because they're trans. All are their own separate issues.

I don't see anything inherently wrong with a man in womans clothes reading to children, but when it becomes sexual, that's a different story.

I knew I was gay when I was really really young though. I'm talking like 5. Yes I knew I liked men at 5.
I didn't know what it "meant" tho and it wasn't until I was a few years older that I heard about Freddie Mercury being "gay" & how he died from AIDS (it was the early 90s) that I realized I was actually "gay".

And I was so young that I thought it meant that if you were gay you were automatically going to die of AIDS. So I spent a few years as a child thinking I was gonna die of AIDS when I got older cause I wasn't "straight" like everyone else. And of course I had no one I could talk to about it. If there had been somebody around to tell me that it was okay that I was gay & that it didn't mean I'd automatically get AIDs, it might have been a little helpful. But it's a slippery slope talking about those subjects with people that age.
 
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im sorry but you guys are living in some sort of imaginary world where straight dudes dress up as women just for the sport of it - ok?

it just doesn't happen - and i know a lot of motherfuckers

you gotta be some sorta fruit cake to be doing something like that with some sort of sexual deviance behind it


cmon
 
oh but my bad - im going away from the major problem here - and that problem is NAZIS

that's the real problem and what we really need to fix around here

those god damn NAZIS
 
you gotta be some sorta fruit cake to be doing something like that with some sort of sexual deviance behind it

i did a bunch of reading today about cross-dressing and sexual deviance. i picked this one article as it is short and easy to read.

Are All Cross Dressers Gay? Transgender? Is It A Sexual Fetish?

"Are all cross dressers gay? Transgender? Is cross dressing a sexual fetish? These are just but a few questions the public asks when they see a man who dresses in women’s clothes. With the recent celebrity gossip about Bruce Jenner and his wife Kris’s split – Star Magazine’s Adriane Schwartz called upon my expertise as a Marriage and Family Therapist to discuss. The focus of this particular interview was on cross dressing. As it has been in the news that Bruce is a cross dresser. Cover story for this upcoming week’s publication. Provided below you will find the answers to the most common misconceptions about cross dressing males. This is not an opinion blog nor an article of judgment. Rather, this blog article is here to set the record straight in bullet point format, based on my experience counseling couples, men, and women.

Cross Dressing- Let’s Set The Record Straight:

  • Cross dressing is more common than many realize, due to it is often done in secret since it is not accepted by society (e.g., female panties worn underneath a man’s work pants, in the privacy of one’s home). Business professionals, doctors, lawyers, blue collar or white collar . . . cross dressing does not exclude based on profession or financial status.
  • Although it is socially acceptable for women to wear men’s clothes it is not for men to wear women’s clothes. Therefore, men who are cross dressers are often viewed by others as deviant weirdo’s to stay away from, to be afraid of.
  • It is a myth to believe that all cross dressers are homosexual or bi-sexual. There are many cross dressers who are heterosexual men. It is those men who report they enjoy the feel of women’s clothes, the excitement of pushing the limits of societal acceptance, and/or enjoy the feel of risk taking (e.g., they could be caught).
  • It is a myth to believe all cross dressers includes a sexual component to the cross dressing. Some cross dressers only do it for the enjoyment of drag and there is not a sexual fetish aspect of it. Whereas other cross dressers are heterosexual males who cross dress as a part of a sexual fetish.
  • It is a common myth to believe that all cross dressers are transgender. Transgender is a term used for a person who experiences a lack of internal fit between their own gender identity and the gender roles made by society.
  • Transsexual is a person who does not identify with the sex they were assigned at birth. In essence, they believe their assigned sex is wrong. Cross dressing does not infer nor mean the person necessarily identifies as a transsexual. For some; yes, for others; no.
  • There are cross dressers who enjoy cross-play cross dressing where their female partner joins in on the cross dressing, whereas others do not partake in cross-play.
  • Cross dressing males commonly report they remember as far back as early childhood enjoying dressing in female clothes.
  • Cross dressers often find an increase in their desire to cross dress as they age. Often taking more risks in terms of where they wear female clothing, and how often, in contrast to their caution of not stepping out when they were younger." (my emphasis)
maybe won't change your mind one bit - you've decided they're all fruit cakes :( - but other reading may appreciate it.

alasdair
 
hey listen - you can try to legitimize your side of the argument by saying you've read that "unicorns are real" all you want

but to me, there's still a sexual nature behind it all - and i feel like there's no doubt about that
 
  • It is a myth to believe that all cross dressers are homosexual or bi-sexual. There are many cross dressers who are heterosexual men. It is those men who report they enjoy the feel of women’s clothes, the excitement of pushing the limits of societal acceptance, and/or enjoy the feel of risk taking (e.g., they could be caught).
  • It is a myth to believe all cross dressers includes a sexual component to the cross dressing. Some cross dressers only do it for the enjoyment of drag and there is not a sexual fetish aspect of it. Whereas other cross dressers are heterosexual males who cross dress as a part of a sexual fetish.

yes, there are probably a few exceptions that prove the rule.

after your reading ali, how many heterosexual men do you think there are that do drag for non kink purposes? A tenth of a percent?
 
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i mean cmon

who are you guys trying to kid? (no pun intended)

there is only one reason that they're doing that - and if you wanna bet on something that's got a .00001% chance of being correct, you go right ahead


it's like the "occasional" meth user - do not bet on that being the case - yes, occasional meth users do exist - but they're rare - they're most likely either in it or not in it
 
after your reading ali, how many heterosexual men do you think there are that do drag for non kink purposes? A tenth of a percent?

i honestly have no ideal mal. but if it is one tenth of one percent of men over 18 in the u.s. that's over 100,000 men.

i suspect, as with most things, there's a little more to this than "there's only one reason anybody does it - they're a fruit cake..."

alasdair
 
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