Xorkoth
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I'm not addressing any of the other points you were trying to make, but for real on this one? Crickets? Are you totally missing the barrage of fentanyl headlines? It's all over the place
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I'm not addressing any of the other points you were trying to make, but for real on this one? Crickets? Are you totally missing the barrage of fentanyl headlines? It's all over the place
Droppersneck
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But they aren’t willing to close the borders, they basically have to report on a lot of the deaths. It doesn’t have the same campaign, and congressional attention that banning ‘assault rifles’ does. A weapon that doesn’t kill very many people. The handgun would be a more realistic argument, but it’s obvious to me why they want ARs. I just picked fentanyl, but there are many many things that needlessly kill people every year.
Xorkoth
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Oh, sure if you meant congressional attention, yeah. I thought you meant general societal uproar/headlines.
how would you define "congressional attention"?
in the last couple of years, the u.s .congress has:
i can find only 2 resolutions/bills related to gun control (h.r. 48 and s.25).
can you help me understand how fentanyl definitely doesn't have the congressional attention that ar's and 30 round mags do?
thanks.
alasdair
in the last couple of years, the u.s .congress has:
- introduced the h.r. 6946 - safe act of 2022 ("To amend the Controlled Substances Act with respect to fentanyl-related substances, and for other purposes.")
- written to the president urging action on fentanyl (congressman bryan steil and 116 other republicans)
- received recommendations from the biden administration on reducing the supply and availability of illicitly manufactured fentanyl-related substances
- introduced h.r. 467 - halt fentanyl act of 2023 ("To amend the Controlled Substances Act with respect to the scheduling of fentanyl-related substances, and for other purposes.")
- introduced h.r. 335 - stop fentanyl act of 2023 ("To reduce the threshold for mandatory minimum penalties for fentanyl-related offenses under the Controlled Substances Act and the Controlled Substances Import and Export Act, and for other purposes.")
- introduced h.r. 916 - felony murder for deadly fentanyl distribution act of 2023 ("To punish the distribution of fentanyl resulting in death as felony murder.")
- introduced s.614 - protecting americans from fentanyl trafficking act of 2023 ("To codify the temporary scheduling order for fentanyl-related substances by adding fentanyl-related substances to schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act.")
i can find only 2 resolutions/bills related to gun control (h.r. 48 and s.25).
can you help me understand how fentanyl definitely doesn't have the congressional attention that ar's and 30 round mags do?
thanks.
alasdair
Las Veghost grower
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What do you guys think about charging people with felony murder if they sell fetty to someone and that person ODs…super fucked up right ?
What's your point? That because congressional bills are passed; it makes everything ok and will trickle down to make society 'great again'. Let alone, that governments are not holding themselves accountable for their neglegence on protecting their most vulnerable people, from drugs that kill.
Seems naive to think so, as many bills have been passed; e.g. 'the American Dream & Promises Act'; that alone, in its title should lead your mind to realise how absolutely, idiotic these acts are.
Democracy was killed some time ago in the US. The sooner people stand up to the Kleptocracy, the better.
if you can show me where i said that, i'll eat my hat.
electrum1's post implied that the issue of fentanyl was receiving little "congressional attention".
i demonstrated that the issue is getting attention in congress. the value of that attention is a different discussion.
alasdair
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It’s official; females have entered the realm of being school shooters. Mass murder is an equal opportunity employer now.
I was wondering when this day would come
I was wondering when this day would come
Electrum1
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Found one from 2018 but she didn't have an AR and it wasn't a school so politicians probably didn't care
www.reuters.com
Maryland woman kills three people and herself in warehouse gun rampage
A woman armed with a handgun opened fire on Thursday on co-workers at a Maryland distribution center for the Rite Aid drugstore chain, killing three people and wounding three others before taking her own life, the Harford County sheriff said.
www.reuters.com
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LucidSDreamr
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A shitload of South Americans and Cubans are of European ancestry. Like myself. Great great grandparents immigrated from Europe to SA.
Been to Mexico tons of times to the rich beach towns the locals go to (not Americans tourists) and it’s all white Mexicans of European decent
How many generations does a European lineage have to live in a Latin American country to be considered Latino? Or do you only consider natives Latino and the enournous portions of European decendents living in Mexico and Argentina are never Latin American?
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LucidSDreamr
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It’s incredibly braindead and was trumps plan to handle the opioid epidemic (death sentences for selling).
Everyone knows the drug supply has fent in it by now. It all falls on the user because 100% the cartel will always make sure it’s availabile no matter how many MILLIONS of drug dealers you lock up. The cartel is more reliable than most businesses as far as keeping supply going.
Another braindead republican is proposing we tackle fentanyl . Lindsey Graham is proposing right now we go to war with Mexico. Not the cartel but fucking Mexicos government (the gov there is owned by the cartel but I think he’s to stupid too know this) and we’ll lose even worse than Vietnam and affhanistan and the fentanyl will never stop flowing
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Cream Gravy?
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Hey last time we invaded Mexico we forced them to give us most of their land. Maybe we can take the whole country this time?
Off-topic but lol
LucidSDreamr
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That’s good it will make trafficking drugs into the upper 48 states far easier than having a borderHey last time we invaded Mexico we forced them to give us most of their land. Maybe we can take the whole country this time?
Off-topic but lol
LucidSDreamr
Bluelighter
Ppl need to learn to live and let live. Both sides.
The problems is that when you’re religious and think god is commanding you to enforce your lifestyle on others …how the fuck do you get around that?
Our only chance at this is to just LET OTHERS DO WHATEVER THE FUCK they want. This can be applied to both sides:
Someone wants to be a racist nazi or bigot Christian and spew hatred LET THEM
Someone wants to get a sex change LET THEM
Someone wants to use drugs LET THEM
Someone wants to own 50 AR 15s LET THEM
Ppl need to fucking LIVE and LET LIVE
I'd agree with that, if we are going to have a proper, thorough, honest investigation into true psychological causes and actually learn to accept what we find. Right now everyone is riding on the assumptions of 20th century psychology that every act is equal and that anything goes, so long as you don't physically harm another. Personally I don't believe that is true, I think there is more going on than we currently understand and that the religions of old were dimly aware of this 'other' factor.
People are reluctant to let go of things that may actually be causing them (and society) harm. We cling to things that help us deal with the pain, whether it be drugs or the idea that changing sex might alleviate suffering. The real underlying causes are not acknowledged - we are living out of balance. If we ever got back into a state of balance I think it would be easy to see what are negative influences.. our world is so debased that we lack the necessary contrast to triangulate the truth, psychologically speaking.
We're all junkies to the religion of money, and the demons behind it.
ChemicallyEnhanced
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So sick of pro-gun people trying to blame it on mental health.
The U.S., and Europe have the same rates of mental health problems among their populations. Europe has gun control. The U.S. does not. The U.S. had 647 mass shootings in 2022. The whole of Europe had 12 mass shootings in 2022. It is 100% a gun control issue.
Also, accidental shooting (either by themselves or by a family member) with a gun in the home is the FIFTH LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH in American kids aged 1-19.
That is fucking insane.
The U.S., and Europe have the same rates of mental health problems among their populations. Europe has gun control. The U.S. does not. The U.S. had 647 mass shootings in 2022. The whole of Europe had 12 mass shootings in 2022. It is 100% a gun control issue.
Also, accidental shooting (either by themselves or by a family member) with a gun in the home is the FIFTH LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH in American kids aged 1-19.
That is fucking insane.