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Heroin makes me happy

yubacity said:
Im talking about getting of it completely then back on it being fed up of it and detoxing again we all get wds while on. it you wake up feeling shit but when you sick of it and try to clean up I must have detoxed every few months last year not to even stay clean a month
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Congratulations for wanting to quit. I am personally not at that stage yet but send my days managing my money to afford my 400mg a day habit lol.
I took a tolerance break today for 24 hours and it was rough lol and ill try to do it again next week
 
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Delmonte421 said:
Congratulations for wanting to quit. I am personally not at that stage yet but send my days managing my money to afford my 400mg a day habit lol.
I took a tolerance break today for 24 hours and it was rough lol and ill try to do it again next week
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Wanting to quit is the first impulse. It can take many mental stages after that. You're off to a good start if you can be clear in your mind about WHY you want to quit. (hint : if it's purely to please some third party, such as my family wants me to stop using etc, you're likely not gonna get very far. you gotta want to be doing it for YOU and what's more, to see a BETTER life for yourself at the end of it. Not just 'I'm gonna deprive myself of these wonderful drugs because I SHOULD'.)
 
TheUltimateFixx said:
Wanting to quit is the first impulse. It can take many mental stages after that. You're off to a good start if you can be clear in your mind about WHY you want to quit. (hint : if it's purely to please some third party, such as my family wants me to stop using etc, you're likely not gonna get very far. you gotta want to be doing it for YOU and what's more, to see a BETTER life for yourself at the end of it. Not just 'I'm gonna deprive myself of these wonderful drugs because I SHOULD'.)
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yea thats fro sure. If you change for other people then when those other people aren't around anymore your kinda fucked. I should be a very interpersonal change. I really like oxy and find it helps ne with my job and keeps me calm and relaxed and if thats what I have to do to keep my career in check and I enjoy gettin high in icy and goigbn ti work then who is anyone else to judge me salon as I am not hurting anyone
 
Delmonte421 said:
Congratulations for wanting to quit. I am personally not at that stage yet but send my days managing my money to afford my 400mg a day habit lol.
I took a tolerance break today for 24 hours and it was rough lol and ill try to do it again next week
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Thank you very much i am now on maintenance i could not keep off it without and my main place is now yuba city I did not want to play Russian roulette with fent and even though i can get pods every Punjabi community can get them they do not have the euphoria nod heroin did.,

I was just so sick of having to play the endless mind fuck of hating being on heroin but hating life more than being without it . Its weird i feel so different the impulsiveness is gone and the anxiety is gone.
If i had a choice and my family was not back in states where i will spend most my time i would never have gone down this route But heroin loses its charm and the slavery of it taking kids to theme park and having to keep going to the toilet or cars to smoke more gear and it always on the back of my mind . I remember once leaving my pod tea which i did while away from home on lorry at my cousins I got stuck on a massive traffic jam bad accident ahead im withdrawing badly and shouted out hope the cunt that caused this died its slavery to a drug. and the on and detpoxx then on then detox so many times last year made my body and mind a physical wreck and tolerance breaks are good but within days your back to your normal usage 17 years on heroin and 31 in total of daily crank and coke use enough . My daughter who is 16 worries i could die this the time she be thinking education boys not is my dad goingf to die they deserve more i gave them evrything they wanted my wife a good normal home i functioned as a addict but they never really had my attention it seems a blur . I have a catering buisness that does really well i also drove a lorry for a big constrution firm for 10 year which i average 45 thousand a year all that went on heroin and coke i would also dip into buisness income so nearly 500 000 pounds on what do i have anything to show for that it gone up my nose on up in smoke .
 
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yubacity said:
Thank you very much i am now on maintenance i could not keep off it without and my main place is now yuba city I did not want to play Russian roulette with fent and even though i can get pods every Punjabi community can get them they do not have the euphoria nod heroin did.,

I was just so sick of having to play the endless mind fuck of hating being on heroin but hating life more than being without it . Its weird i feel so different the impulsiveness is gone and the anxiety is gone.
If i had a choice and my family was not back in states where i will spend most my time i would never have gone down this route But heroin loses its charm and the slavery of it taking kids to theme park and having to keep going to the toilet or cars to smoke more gear and it always on the back of my mind . I remember once leaving my pod tea which i did while away from home on lorry at my cousins I got stuck on a massive traffic jam bad accident ahead im withdrawing badly and shouted out hope the cunt that caused this died its slavery to a drug. and the on and detpoxx then on then detox so many times last year made my body and mind a physical wreck and tolerance breaks are good but within days your back to your normal usage 17 years on heroin and 31 in total of daily crank and coke use enough . My daughter who is 16 worries i could die this the time she be thinking education boys not is my dad goingf to die they deserve more i gave them evrything they wanted my wife a good normal home i functioned as a addict but they never really had my attention it seems a blur . I have a catering buisness that does really well i also drove a lorry for a big constrution firm for 10 year which i average 45 thousand a year all that went on heroin and coke i would also dip into buisness income so nearly 500 000 pounds on what do i have anything to show for that it gone up my nose on up in smoke .
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do you think if I take 24 hour breaks every week I would be able to maintain a longer wait before my tolerance is 160mg at once oral for a nice high?
 
Delmonte421 said:
do you think if I take 24 hour breaks every week I would be able to maintain a longer wait before my tolerance is 160mg at once oral for a nice high?
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I dont know brother thing i found with tolerance breaks is the dosage soon creeps back up to normal levels you had before tolerance . What you have to do is do your tolerance break and stick to the dosage you want to be at even if it dont seem to hit the spot dont think just little more think this the dosagge i want to be at and stick to it
 
Delmonte421 said:
do you think if I take 24 hour breaks every week I would be able to maintain a longer wait before my tolerance is 160mg at once oral for a nice high?
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I would take a tolerance break of 5 days go through hell then smoke herroin again first couple of days your good but you start going back to normal levels after that within 5 days im bck atr normal usage i stopped taking toleranxce breaks in the end to much pain and only couple of days gain
 
yubacity said:
I would take a tolerance break of 5 days go through hell then smoke herroin again first couple of days your good but you start going back to normal levels after that within 5 days im bck atr normal usage i stopped taking toleranxce breaks in the end to much pain and only couple of days gain
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yea thats where im at, it better to just take a super low dose and get through the day normal then to not take it at all and feel physical withdrawals, I don't NEED 160mg at once, it just give me a desired buzz
 
yubacity said:
I would take a tolerance break of 5 days go through hell then smoke herroin again first couple of days your good but you start going back to normal levels after that within 5 days im bck atr normal usage i stopped taking toleranxce breaks in the end to much pain and only couple of days gain
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I would need days off from work and the will power to do that, which right now I don't lol I don't
 
Delmonte421 said:
yea thats where im at, it better to just take a super low dose and get through the day normal then to not take it at all and feel physical withdrawals, I don't NEED 160mg at once, it just give me a desired buzz
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Thats it my brother why go through the pain trying to lower tolerance when you know it only good for few days then back to normal. Stasy at the dose you l;ove but dont keep increasing
 
yubacity said:
Thats it my brother why go through the pain trying to lower tolerance when you know it only good for few days then back to normal. Stasy at the dose you l;ove but dont keep increasing
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yea I guess ill even try to find the dose that keeps me feeling "normal" so that im not wasting money when unneeded
 
Hexenstahl said:
The german ethnopharmacologist Dr. Christian Rätsch (RIP) has speculated that opioid addiction is the brains reaction to a natural deficit of endorphins in the body of the addict. The compulsive desire to take opioids is therefore an attempt to increase endorphin release in the body. If that hypothesis is correct, then addiction is indeed not a brain disease as it is popularily believed today, but a natural impulse of the body to get rid of the lack of a certain neurochemical. Since I have absolutely no expertise on this subject I cannot judge if it is valid, but it makes sense to me.
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In my humble opinion, that doesn't make sense. A good dose of an opiate (in an individual with low-moderate tolerance) provide certain mind alteration, such as the production of euphoria, and a certain pleasure relaxation that most humans in sober consciousness can not recreate by their own.

Any human with just a totally fine endorphin system will not enjoy themselves just looking at a fucking wall for 30 minutes (or if you don't want to go that hardcore, just maybe walking people going by in the city while you are sitting on a bench).

When you are doing opiates you basically are buying high pleasurable effects that otherwise in the sober-survival designed state of consciousness that humans are, would entail either sex, achieving a big goal, and incredible massage, running a 50km marathon, ...etc.

If I have gotten something of utility of getting high on opioids is that when I´m high and I look at peoples faces and behaviour. All those 'normal people' with healthy endorphin systems are really fucking stressed all the time and do not know how to enjoy themselves looking at a tree and orgasming themselves with the breeze of the air, instead they constantly are running around to get 'that thing' so they can feel a hint of intensity-relaxation and for thought activity to stop.

I can't help to think that is so convenient to arm theories and ideas like one has bad brain chemistry to justify the fact that you are by-passing the natural recompense mechanism of survival crude humans are, but you just don't want to recognise that?
 
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Opioid receptors aren't just mu, kappa & delta either.
Mu has sub-receptors m1, m2 & m3.
As far as I know, there are no endogenous m1, m2 or m3 agonists.
Which would mean we have these receptors for some reason, possibly the fact that we are meant to agonize them with exogenous sources of opiates.




Opiates can benefit people in a LOT of ways.
Probably not the type of people who use them to "get fucked up on anything" like a lot of young & ignorant opioid/drug users. Obviously those people have an issue.
But people who use opioids to enhance their life & functionality are not the same as these people.
 
DeathIndustrial88 said:
Opioid receptors aren't just mu, kappa & delta either.
Mu has sub-receptors m1, m2 & m3.
As far as I know, there are no endogenous m1, m2 or m3 agonists.
Which would mean we have these receptors for some reason, possibly the fact that we are meant to agonize them with exogenous sources of opiates.




Opiates can benefit people in a LOT of ways.
Probably not the type of people who use them to "get fucked up on anything" like a lot of young & ignorant opioid/drug users. Obviously those people have an issue.
But people who use opioids to enhance their life & functionality are not the same as these people.
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Yeh, because all junkies consider their options fully before deciding which category suits them best...
 
DeathIndustrial88 said:
Which would mean we have these receptors for some reason, possibly the fact that we are meant to agonize them with exogenous sources of opiates.
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That not likely and same stuff was preached by some about CB1 and CB2 and so on. We’ll find out endogenous chems connected to all of them eventually, if nothing at deathbed or when your body knocks you out with endogenous stuff. Ever experienced that? I felt strong “endogenous high” moments before passing out from pain, at least as intense as orgasm high but very different. Never really went deep into how that works.
 
I've almost forgotten what it's like to be fucked on heroin. It was pretty darn blissful, but I don't really rate it exceptionally better than other opiates like morphine or even dhc or subutex when your tolerance is low enough.
Still get occasions where I feel my daily methadone come on strongly, which is always nice.
Fuck spending half your day rattling, it would feel amazing to score and instantly be fixed and more, but the times I'd be without it weren't worth it.
 
SpiralusSancti said:
That not likely and same stuff was preached by some about CB1 and CB2 and so on. We’ll find out endogenous chems connected to all of them eventually, if nothing at deathbed or when your body knocks you out with endogenous stuff. Ever experienced that? I felt strong “endogenous high” moments before passing out from pain, at least as intense as orgasm high but very different. Never really went deep into how that works.
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"That's not likely".
"Never really went deep into how that works"...

So basically this is your opinion?
Pretty sure endongenous opioid peptides would never feel anything like traditional opiates.
If they attached to & agonized m2, then people would ditch heroin for orgasms or any other activity that releases endorphins.


I wouldn't say it's impossible that they're there for times of intense pain or dying but if that were true & considering opioids are some of the most extensively researched class of drugs, I'm pretty sure they would have figured it out by now & found an endogenous ligand for m1, m2 & m3. Yet I don't know of any. |


The fact that our bodies make similar drugs itself just strengthens my argument that opioids & various drugs should be legal for adults who want to use them. It's your body chemistry after all & last I checked my body & brain were mind. So I think prohibition is a crime against humanity (dead serious). I mean, it flat out is honestly.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Yeh, because all junkies consider their options fully before deciding which category suits them best...
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"All junkies"


"All gays"

"All blacks"

"Add stereotypes / generalizations here"

I always see this stupid anti-opioid commercial on Youtube where this guy (who looks like he's dressed to work for LE) starts saying "And like any good addict will do..." and then proceeds to talk about stealing shit out of people's cabinets & shit like that. Not once in my life have I ever raided some one else's medicine cabinet or even thought about it (unless they explicitly said I could). So basically the dude tried to paint all opioid addicts as pieces of shit like him. You remind me of that dude. An annoying hypocritical pop up ad that only serves to push my buttons, while spreading ignorance & propaganda.
 
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