Positive The Tapering Support Thread v 2.0

thank you darling!
You are so SPECIAL! and you write like the àngels do. You make people feeling irie like
the jamaican people says. I really feel or maybe DREAM of talking with you. Lots of thoughts in this moment....I have to thank you another time for being like you are, even if I don't know you. I learn ,you teach. You're sweet like honey...I can continue but I gonna stop. Lots of wellbeing and Love for everyone, specially for who is suffering with a drug adiction, or having a mental ilness.


peace&Love


PD.I'll use this translator, cause I need it hahaha
You are welcome Love.
Glad that helped you.
Easy to use too!

* blushing
well, thank you.
I am glad I make you feel Irie.
Had to look that one up. Lol!
Very nice compliment.

I may just be an Angel.
I had the chance to stay in The Kingdom of God but chose to come back to help and I am happy to hear I helped.
I do teach. Glad you noticed.
Maybe I am getting the hang of how to use all this new found Love after all....
Love you my love!
❤️ P.O stands for - Painful One- It also stands for Parole Officer, we were all joking on here some years ago and someone told me that I am like our Parole Officer- so my nickname on here is P.O.

Don’t give up everyone!
If you are going through hell, keep going!
 
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Thanks for the responses! I’m feeling a bit better today. But I don’t have much motivation to do anything
Anxiety still there
It’s been raining for 5 days now and I’m sick of it
I miss my boyfriend
I’m lonely


Sorry for all the whining. I can’t seem to function today.
Ah...I am sorry you are feeling down.
Complain away. That is what this site is here for.
You are not alone.

Good to hear you are feeling a bit better today.
You may want to go up a little on your dosage.
I think you may be tapering too fast.
Your choice.
You will straighten out soon.
Be assured of that.

Hang in there sweetheart.
Love to you!
 

Above is a digital version of a Lifeline booklet on 'D.I.Y. Detox'.

Many good ideas. Taking a tiny amount of H at bedtime is really a valuable tactic. If you can sleep, you can likely make it. It's being awake 24/7 for weeks that defeats people.
Excellent technique!
I have tried it before.
The one and only time I used heroin was when I was very sick and desperate.
My friend gave me just a tiny bit and told me to put it up on the side of my nose.
(Black tar stuff) so it stayed there.
It allowed me to get some sleep.
I made it almost two years with zero opiates from using that technique.
I was at my breaking point and just being able to get some sleep made all the difference.
Problem is, where do you find black tar heroin now days? It is all fentanyl.
My God, Fentanyl is the absolute worst!
Thank the heavens you are not coming off that stuff!
(I am not either BTW. Just to be clear, but I have experienced it. Indeed I have. UGH!)

What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger eh?!
 
@Squeaky thats brilliant that is, its good to recognise our habits, one can use past lapses ect as weaponry,
its great to know where you are going wrong.

Personally I'm thinking of joining some self help group meetings again, they helped me stop smoking weed habitually, infact had i not been allergic to the stuff anyways I probably would be smoking a hell of alot more, when the stuff constantly blocks up your sinuses you kinda get annoyed and you could say i just ended up getting way too annoyed with that. Plus its hard to do some of my hobbies like playing didgeridoo ect when you cannot breathe and bah after 6 years of not being able to breathe through my nose and then it finally clicking, i was like aaaah this is soo much better. I do long for a smoke though, it can be the lesser of evils for alot of people, but unfortunately the stuff turned on me and I end up paranoid ect and avoiding socializing ect!
Weed withdrawals suck aswel. I know it brings out alot of my mental health side effects so essentially it is not worthwhile, i'm a happier more bouncy livelier individual who can hold a conversation without feeling awkward ect. that and not having to eat a ton of benzos just to get stoned...

next thing to tackle is the benzos (3 x 10mg diazepam daily - not scripted so essentially illegitimate use, which is causing me troubles with the system as they see that as getting off my trolly! been (ab)using benzos for 10 years! i used to be taking 50 or more every other few days, tolerance does not spring into such peoples minds)

Then the 40ml of methadone i'm on daily! luckily i don't pick it up daily and do not have an urge to dose more as thats just shooting myself in the foot when / if I ran out! Second rodeo with this shite. came off it before though so I know I can do it. just wasn't dependant on benzos at the same time.

not gunna lie as I do get opiate cravings but not like I used too, had the odd blip that leads to nowhere and is pointless! I'm blocked up by the methadone enough thanks heh.

had a breif stint of drinking alcohol at social occasions, and my god the stuff is poison, i don't mind the getting drunk part, but once drunk. POISON! I do not like my poisoned self!!

Its shit how it can take us years to figure our own selves out, finding who we are as people and loving oneself ect.
Psychedelics, mainly of the tryptamine kind (shrooms/4-aco-DMT) have played a big roll in me seeking recovery like I can admit that for sure.
Speaking on the psychedelics, ketamine treatment followed by the FDA’s depression protocol helped me quit Lexapro, famous for its terrible withdrawal symptoms cold Turkey! My friend just this week decided she wanted to wean down from high doses of fentanyl and oxycodone and is going to try the ketamine. >snip< might ease the pain! I had no cravings either! It’s an amazing drug with its own addiction potential, but if you stick to the dose and protocol you’ll be OK. And as an added bonus it might help your depression
 
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Thank you Papercuts.

I try to just avoid those people now. The people who unburden themselves by laying their problems at my feet. They do it on purpose because they know it will make themselves feel better, with no consideration that it will make me feel worse. I don’t respond to their text messages when they complain about something that isn’t my fault. I calmly leave the room when they’re talking about something that shouldn’t affect me. And I never, NEVER, carpool with anyone like that (I’d rather walk than be stuck in a car with anyone who complains about something they can fix on their own). I finally learned that I can’t tune it out, so I just leave the room.

It’s been working so far.
 
One of us must be going faster, I'm waiting for my delivery too, we didn't used to coincide with dates :unsure:;)
 
One of us must be going faster, I'm waiting for my delivery too, we didn't used to coincide with dates :unsure:;)
My Dr schedules me every 28 days.

I got my script filled. Took a lot as usual. But this time, something is different. I kind of don’t want them. Not in a “they’re ruining my life, I wish I could stop” kind of way. More like indifference, just thinking that there’s other ways to make myself happy and it’s definitely not as fun as I remember.

It’s 5am here and I’m the only one awake, getting ready to go to work. Normally in this ‘situation’ I would be taking a bunch to start the day and counting out a handful of pills for the day so that I don’t have to carry the carafe from the pharmacy and tempt myself to take extra. Today I just took my Kratom and put the bottle in my lunchbox. Very little desire to take any, except for the routine that this is what I do when I have pills. (Like a smoker who is over the Nicotine wd’s but still misses holding the cigarette). I can’t remember feeling like this before…. or at least not in years. Usually I just want to pill myself up and lie in bed. Today I want to get up and work. I wonder what is different?
 
My Dr schedules me every 28 days.

I got my script filled. Took a lot as usual. But this time, something is different. I kind of don’t want them. Not in a “they’re ruining my life, I wish I could stop” kind of way. More like indifference, just thinking that there’s other ways to make myself happy and it’s definitely not as fun as I remember.

It’s 5am here and I’m the only one awake, getting ready to go to work. Normally in this ‘situation’ I would be taking a bunch to start the day and counting out a handful of pills for the day so that I don’t have to carry the carafe from the pharmacy and tempt myself to take extra. Today I just took my Kratom and put the bottle in my lunchbox. Very little desire to take any, except for the routine that this is what I do when I have pills. (Like a smoker who is over the Nicotine wd’s but still misses holding the cigarette). I can’t remember feeling like this before…. or at least not in years. Usually I just want to pill myself up and lie in bed. Today I want to get up and work. I wonder what is different?
Whatever it is that's different, it'll make today easier.
It's a great sign, but...
I'd draw back from reading more into it than that, it sounds like one of the tricks my mind plays when I've been really determined and not touched it for a while. My mind says, "ok then, you win, I don't even want it any more" as a way of getting me to lower my defenses. I'll relax just enough, then I'll realise I just did it on autopilot. That has happened so often to me, it's almost like sleepwalking for a moment during the day after being reassured everything will be fine.
 
It's true that you cannot trust the medical fraternity. I've been given the runaround CC my prescribed medicine. Every month for 6 months doctors kept saying 'oh, we can't go on giving you oxycodone - it's ADDICTIVE' and every month my wife has had to ring them and ask 'have you actually seen the X-rays of his hip?'. Their is ALWAYS a grunt, silence and then 'oh, we SEE why he needs pain medication'.

But I am lucky, someone who will sit on the phone and demand the medication. It's simple - I can manage in my own home (admittedly with others helping me) OR without medication I would need 24 hour support. So from an NHS point of view, medicines are the better option. FORGET addiction. If the money for care comes out of their pocket (and it does) then they are happy for the cheapest resolution.

In fact, one doctor even stated that if I needed more, she would give me more. I do not want more. 40mg of oxycontin BID is enough. The fact that UK doctors can give >400mg/day says a lot. The KEY thing is that you don't cost them any more. Plus, I would not wish to be on 400mg+ a day. ATM I can touch bottom with 800mg of codeine (so if the supply is interrupted, I CAN manage) but who knows how people on 400+ mg manage.

I am addicted to the supply my doctor provides.
 
My life sucks a little less each month. This time I used my whole prescription in 3 days. 2 days later I’m fine. (As fine as I can be anyway). I’m basically immune to oxy now. All I really get is feeling like crap from all of the Tylenol in my Percocet.

This was my goal, believe it or not. If I can remember only the bad stuff and none of the good, someday soon I’ll just stop wanting it. Right now I can barely remember my oxy 30’s. All I get is Percocet and they suck. I get 10x more life relief from weed and kratom than I was from oxy. And I’m using very little weed.

How’s this for progress…. Last month I kept forgetting about my next Dr appointment. I had to set an alarm so I wouldn’t miss it. A year ago, that appointment was all I could think about. And right now I have no clue when my next one will be.
 
My life sucks a little less each month. This time I used my whole prescription in 3 days. 2 days later I’m fine. (As fine as I can be anyway). I’m basically immune to oxy now. All I really get is feeling like crap from all of the Tylenol in my Percocet.

This was my goal, believe it or not. If I can remember only the bad stuff and none of the good, someday soon I’ll just stop wanting it. Right now I can barely remember my oxy 30’s. All I get is Percocet and they suck. I get 10x more life relief from weed and kratom than I was from oxy. And I’m using very little weed.

How’s this for progress…. Last month I kept forgetting about my next Dr appointment. I had to set an alarm so I wouldn’t miss it. A year ago, that appointment was all I could think about. And right now I have no clue when my next one will be.
Man. If u got some legal kratom round u..even can fuck off percofets...don't know the prize defferences...it's great sucess somw kind for the states,that is legal.be well👍💥💯
 
Some doctors are overly keen on buprenorphine. They prescribed me 16mg of buprenorphine a day for a codeine habit. I get HUGE anxiety from buprenorphine to the extent that the drug counsellor advised me to 'use it in a way that helps YOU' so I only took 8mg and only for 10 days. Then I just stopped.

But I was simply self-medicating pain. Now the doctors DO look at the X-rays and on several occasions have asked how I can walk. Well, with 2 crutches, but I can do it.

Now we see cannabis being widely decriminalised in the US and many cities making mushrooms legal. If we could simply buy the flat discs of opium that are sold in Afghanistan we would be fine. I don't know the proper name but imagine a 7-8mm thick disc about the size of a CD usually with a logo picked out in gold leaf. That's enough for 3-4 days for someone with a decent habit and the cost is about $6. So even if we go for 'Fair Trade', it's possible that $20 or so would be the market price in the US.

BTW anyone else suspicious of how the DEA and other agencies supposedly responsible for the control of illegal drugs cannot stop fentanyl? I had presumed that a new analogue would appear every week to avoid the law, but it seems that plain vanilla fentanyl is the majority of the market. It's almost like they seek to stop Afghan heroin by ensuring that a cheaper products is more readily available. After 'Air America', we KNOW how dubious their tactics are. I can see how it would work on a practical level. Now are they allowing it, assisting it or actually taking money from it?
 
Some doctors are overly keen on buprenorphine. They prescribed me 16mg of buprenorphine a day for a codeine habit.
For sure. They know fuck all about it. My current city has unbelievably bad treatment and prices so I gotta move + school in the new city.

Absurdly enough, I used oxy and heroin before I grew my tolerances way up and Im using bupre as an good (although not what I look for in an opi) alternative for its half-life. My country is a bupre country, for better or for worse, so Im aiming to get on methadone. If they let in drunks who cant handle even 30mg methadone I think I should have fairly good chances of getting in.
 
long time lurker here , basically I’ve ran out of oxy. I take about 150 mgs a day. Don’t get my script for 2 days and too broke to buy any. Does gabapentin really help with withdrawals ? I have 34 bottles with 240 600mg tabs in each. I have been getting it for years and just never take it aside from a handful of times but it always gives me severe bowel movements. Like, all day long . I just need to get passed these couple days . I’m so u comfortable and just want to feel ok and sleep.
 
long time lurker here , basically I’ve ran out of oxy. I take about 150 mgs a day. Don’t get my script for 2 days and too broke to buy any. Does gabapentin really help with withdrawals ? I have 34 bottles with 240 600mg tabs in each. I have been getting it for years and just never take it aside from a handful of times but it always gives me severe bowel movements. Like, all day long . I just need to get passed these couple days . I’m so u comfortable and just want to feel ok and sleep.
Yeah, they do help alot. Dose high enough and you will push through.
 
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