⫸Trans and LGBTQIA+ Discussion⫷

[bird.is.the.word]

Telling people to look up definitions is... Yeah.

I know what causation is, buddy.

You don't have to be patronizing.

 

[Ubi Sunt]

Didn't mean too, my apologies. I genuinely think it is the root of our disagreement though. You think LGBTQ-awareness causes the rise in statistics, while I think the awareness correlates to the rise, but isn't the cause.

 

[bird.is.the.word]

You think the root of our disagreement is me failing to understand what causation is?

 

[Ubi Sunt]

Lol no, geez. I think the root of our disagreement is that we do not agree over WHAT causes the rise.

You think apple, I think pear.

Truth is we won't know whether the awareness causes LGBTQ or whether humans always have been more LGBTQ than we assumed because we never allowed people to speak about it freely it without the treat of violence.

 

[bird.is.the.word]

You're backpedaling.
You told me to go get a dictionary.

 

[Ubi Sunt]

The fact that you understand the definitions, does not meant that you are able to accurately differentiate between the factors that lead to correlation and causation.

I believe you know your definitions, and I believe you are being short sighted. I do believe that you are misinterpreting correlation as causation in this matter.

You disagree. That is clear

I am not back paddling. You keep making leaps.

 

[unodelacosa]

Yeah I specifically remeber the entire class constantly laughing at pictues of penis and vaginas. The teachers were so awkward. I mean hell, its children. They're gonna joke.

I am reminded of this:

 

[bird.is.the.word]

I think it might benefit you to look up the definition of back peddling.

back paddling

 

[Jabberwocky]

I think it might benefit you to look up the definition of back peddling.

Back paddling and back pedelling aren't all that different?

 

[Las Veghost grower]

Children are INCREDIBLY easily influenced….nuff said, we need to let kids be kids as long as possible not force adults political ideals on them

 

[bird.is.the.word]

Back paddling and back pedelling aren't all that different

The fact that @Ubi Sunt understands the definitions, does not meant that he/she is able to accurately differentiate between the factors that lead to back pedalling and back paddling.

I believe he/she knows the definitions, and I believe he/she is being short sighted.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Well, back paddling sounds more graceful and eloquent than back peddling.

 

[bird.is.the.word]

Ass paddling isn't graceful.

 

[Ubi Sunt]

I think it might benefit you to look up the definition of back peddling.

https://absolutewrite.com/forums/in...addling-or-back-peddling.204713/#post-5820193

English is not my native language, and I don't always bother to have spell check on. Now that I've looked into the differences, I actually like both the pedaling and the paddling.

 

[unodelacosa]

The rate the world is going I might just home school her

You know, good intentions are admirable, but there is such a thing as being overprotective. Having a normal social life is important to kids.

I was operating under the assumption that like tweenager was where they start teaching this stuff. Young kids don’t need to know about the sexual intricacies of the deviants proposing this hogwash.

Wait, what?

the sexual intricacies of the deviants proposing this hogwash.

No, but really, how long have you been stuck in Victorian England?

 

[bird.is.the.word]

Does anyone know what the drag queen actually said to the kids?

I suspect it is just the presence of a drag queen around kids that is upsetting people... But I don't think anybody would have a problem with Dame Edna.

 

[Las Veghost grower]

You know, good intentions are admirable, but there is such a thing as being overprotective. Having a normal social life is important to kids.


Wait, what?



No, but really, how long have you been stuck in Victorian England?

School isn’t the only place to be sociable, sports and other groups/clubs are a healthy place to meet friends

 

[Jabberwocky]

Does anyone know what the drag queen actually said to the kids?

I think they just read children's books to them

But I don't think anybody would have a problem with Dame Edna.

Or Mrs. Doubtfire, who was a better parent to the kids in the movie than the actual parents

although I guess she wasn't actually in drag

 

[Las Veghost grower]

Talk about traumatizing

Everytime I make something spicey I yell out HOT JUMBOLIA

 

[Ubi Sunt]

Alright @bird.is.the.word , one last ditch attempt to cross the aisle:

I grew up in a very conservative culture. The only options I knew about were "straight" and "going to hell/gay".

Around the age of 11, like most kids, I started having crushes. I would have crushes on boys and girls. This confused me deeply, because I didn't know that bisexuality was even an option. I never identified as gay, but I sure spent a lot of sleepless nights praying to god to "keep me straight".

I learned about bisexuality at the age 15, and it still took another 8 or so years before I openly identified as such. Not because I doubted my sexuality: I clearly liked both, but because I was afraid for (violent) backlash from my highly conservative religious family and their community.

Had you polled me in primary school, high school or university, I would have self-reported as straight. Ask me now, and I will openly identify as bi.

Does this mean that I was straight for the first 23+ years of my life?

Of course not: I was just 'hiding' in the straight statistic.

The same would apply if I was born a 100 years ago, when 'deviant girls' could expect a trip to the looney bin for corrective electroshock therapy. You can bet your ass I would have shut the fuck up about it and self-reported as "straight" my whole life.

Had I been born in the newest generation, I probably would have identified as bi from my first few crushes on (age 11+).

LGBTQ awareness did not cause my bisexuality: it caused me to come out about it. I was always bi, even when I was hiding in the straight statistic. The more open society is, the earlier I would have identified as my actual correct demographic.

I am only statistically 'visible' now, because it is safe to do so.

Does this make sense to you in anyway, or does it come off as gibberish to you?