Jan 6 Attack on the Capitol and the aftermath

[Jabberwocky]

But a member of the US House of Representatives, AOC, stated that the Capitol Police were holding the doors open and letting "insurrectionists" in. That's not breaking and entering, is it?

She has gone on record asking for an investigation of why the Capital Police did this, claiming that it was an "inside job".

I honestly don't know what to think anymore.

Maybe they realized at that point they didn't have the manpower to stop them and just let it happen?

One example of them opening doors after hundreds of examples of people breaking barriers, pushing past cops/assaulting them, breaking windows and climbing in, scaling the building, etc etc

What if we just remove the political aspect completely and imagine it as a Walmart and a bunch of angry Walmart customers breaking in because they're angry about a new flavor of Doritos? Would there be any doubt as to right/wrong of that situation?

 

[Jabberwocky]

What if she was a black democrat and unarmed, I bet money you’d be singing a different tune, that political you have to realize that

Lol... seriously?

You're making an awful lot of assumptions about me and that's a stupid comparison.

You think I defend raging black people tearing up gas stations because they're mad about something?

And no, I wouldn't.

Darwin awards, hand em out.

 

[Las Veghost grower]

Maybe they realized at that point they didn't have the manpower to stop them and just let it happen?

One example of them opening doors after hundreds of examples of people breaking barriers, pushing past cops/assaulting them, breaking windows and climbing in, scaling the building, etc etc

What if we just remove the political aspect completely and imagine it as a Walmart and a bunch of angry Walmart customers breaking in because they're angry about a new flavor of Doritos? Would there be any doubt as to right/wrong of that situation?

How about this, do you think Seattle was a insurrection ? I mean they actually took over passed their own laws and patrolled the streets armed and actually killed people , is that a insurrection ?

 

[Las Veghost grower]

Lol... seriously?

You're making an awful lot of assumptions about me.

You think I defend raging black people tearing up gas stations because they're mad about something?

Well in the same respect Floyd was told to stand down multiple times…not the same situation but I do see parallels

 

[Jabberwocky]

How about this, do you think Seattle was a insurrection ?

No, because they didn't take over the Goddamn capitol building and threaten to hang politicians while literally trying to overturn an election.

You're also making huge assumptions that I support violent protests of any nature, which I do not.

Well in the same respect Floyd was told to stand down multiple times…not the same situation but I do see parallels

Yeah, he should have.

The issue with Floyd was improper policing techniques... which leads into the greater issue of how police treat black people differently (which they do in many areas of this country).

 

[Las Veghost grower]

No, because they didn't take over the Goddamn capitol building and threaten to hang politicians while literally trying to overturn an election.

You're also making huge assumptions that I support violent protests of any nature, which I do not.


Yeah, he should have.

The issue with Floyd was improper policing techniques.

Ha, yea this isn’t mental gymnastics at all, so the location matters a whole lot apparently….come on snaffy I know you know better than this

 

[Jabberwocky]

so the location matters a whole lot apparently

??? lmao yes it does

Why would it not? What are you even trying to suggest?

 

[Las Veghost grower]

??? lmao yes it does

Tell that to the taliban ha, once you creat a stronghold that becomes your capital

 

[Cheshire_Kat]

Keeping within the confines of the thread title:

Maybe they realized at that point they didn't have the manpower to stop them and just let it happen?

One example of them opening doors after hundreds of examples of people breaking barriers, pushing past cops/assaulting them, breaking windows and climbing in, scaling the building, etc etc

What if we just remove the political aspect completely and imagine it as a Walmart and a bunch of angry Walmart customers breaking in because they're angry about a new flavor of Doritos? Would there be any doubt as to right/wrong of that situation?

What if? They are police invested with the authority to keep people out if they should not be let in. America doesn't prosecute citizens for "things that cannot be proven". We can argue here all day long about "what if" but that doesn't count. What counts for this hearing is whether or not those people broke into the capital with the intentions of insurrection.

If the Capital Police let them in, then charges against the people let inside are not valid.

If the Capital Police didn't let them in, then charges against the people let inside are valid, but they should also be entitiled to a trial, not held in jail without due process.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Tell that to the taliban ha, once you creat a stronghold that becomes your capital

I honestly don't understand what point you're trying to make. Location and intent unironically mean quite a lot in almost every situation.

 

[Las Veghost grower]

I honestly don't understand what point you're trying to make. Location and intent unironically mean quite a lot in almost every situation.

I know you know better than this man, I’m just going to get frustrated so I’ll walk away

 

[Las Veghost grower]

I honestly don't understand what point you're trying to make. Location and intent unironically mean quite a lot in almost every situation.

The intention was clearly there in Seattle, and no the location don’t mean shit a insurrection/revolution can be based anywhere

 

[Jabberwocky]

The intention was clearly there in Seattle

again, you're assuming I agree with that protest. I don't.

the location don’t mean shit a insurrection/revolution can be based anywhere

So it WAS an insurrection?

 

[Jabberwocky]

Somehow we got off track... My original argument was simply that woman who was shot deserved it.

 

[Las Veghost grower]

Somehow we got off track... My original argument was simply that woman who was shot deserved it.

A unarmed person shot to death during a protest deserved it, smh

 

[Las Veghost grower]

again, you're assuming I agree with that protest. I don't.


So it WAS an insurrection?

Seattle was, yes clearly

 

[Jabberwocky]

Seattle was, yes clearly

Ok, then both were insurrections right?

A unarmed person shot to death during a protest deserved it, smh

Happens all the time.

 

[Las Veghost grower]

Ok, then both were insurrections right?


Happens all the time.

Well there is quite a bit of difference between the two ? But yea if you call jan6 a insurrection then you HAVE to call Seattle one, but not necessarily the other way around….but, why arnt you calling for the heads of the Seattle terrorist too ?

 

[Jabberwocky]

Well there is quite a bit of difference between the two ? But yea if you call jan6 a insurrection then you HAVE to call Seattle one, but not necessarily the other way around….but, why arnt you calling for the heads of the Seattle terrorist too ?

I've condemned both incidents... The only head I want is orange so I can sell it on eBay to one of his fanboys

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

i still think this only gets interesting if Trump gets indicted, which is looking like it's more probable now

Garland Has 'Probable Cause on Steroids' for Indicting Trump: Kirschner

Former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner said on Friday that Attorney General Merrick Garland "is not doing his damn job."

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