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Russo-Ukrainian War v. World War 3?

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Buzz Lightbeer said:
Which principles does the US fight for? Freedom? I don't think so. Democracy? The extensive history of coups and supporting undemocratic regimes begs to differ.

You're asking if I'm able to grasp the idea that I wouldn't be able to talk shit about the US under CCP rule? ;) I cannot grasp that idea, no. Too hard for me, you'd have to be an American liberal to grasp those kinds of ideas I guess.

I see the US as a superpower, that is trying to do everything to retain that status, like every single superpower has tried to do in history. I don't buy that any of their morals and principles have anything to do with that and that seems easily disproven to me given the past decades. I once had a guy tell me here that the US only had "good countries" as allies, no, it's about power and wealth. Everything else is noise.
It's just a fundamentally different worldview, you want America strong and having that superpower status and challenging others to not let them get there themselves by forcing them into submission. I'd like for them to stop the obscene arms races, provocations and the cold war against China and sit around tables.... Am I a naive lefty? Yes...

I can guarantee however that the CCP won't be at your or my doorstep anytime soon =D
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Respect mister
 
All russian media talk about local nuclear war in Europe.Junta in Ukraine calls all women in army.It's the beginning of the End.May be Belarus will put into war too.It_s so awful&scary.....very sorry for kids
 
War until last Ukranian.I am sure,that lot of people there in Ukraine are pissed of their government,but nobody even dare to tell something.....they can shoot you like a dog,if you not embrace the suicidal politic of their president.....too much coke.How he or is he believe in their propaganda?Everyone enough skilled millitary expert knows,that there is not any chance for Ukraine to hold Donbas,Odessa or Harkov.Just the war must go on and the money must go on.....no importance of human cost.....it's bad 'cause the apetite comes with food.Russia became much more expansionist and the fire 🔥 get bigger&bigger.It comes the last big fight-Slovyansk&Kramatorsk.After defeating the last powerful Ukranian forces the way to the other parts would be almost open.On the frontline would be reservist,youngboys and women....and when would have peace negotiations...well it decise only Russia.That's how goin' on situation....and even the war stop right now recession is probably inevitable.Shit of the century.God....so fuckin' tired:(
 
I don't know if russians will be happy enough with Slovyansk and kramatotrsk.
Depending on how things develope.
They very well could go for Dnipro and Zaporidhie.
They will find hard to keep a russian status for western Dombass and Jerson if ukrainians strike back from Dnipro, Nikolaiev and Zaporidhie.

Don't know what to think regarding Odessa, tho
 
Bloody massacra man.Russians talk about all lands standing left of river Dnepr like their land-this include Zaporozjie,Dnipro,Harkov&all Ukranian coast of Black sea.They will not give an inch of territories,for which died so many russian soldiers....and for most of them it_s a liberation war...so they won't stop till they get what they want.Just in Kramatorsk is the most well training fighters left in Ukraine and they got very well develope defensive wall,bunkers..etc build by NATO experts last 8 years.But russians weap out all with phoshorus bombs which desintegrate concrete just like that.....for me this poor guys there are doomed-soon or later.I think that Putin can continious the war a year without a problem.Probably they made their contracts with China,India and who knows also and financialy,military&human personel would be no problem for them
 
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Nas47 said:
Bloody massacra man.Russians talk about all lands standing left of river Dnepr like their land-this include Zaporozjie,Dnipro,Harkov&all Ukranian coast of Black sea.They will not give an inch of territories,for which died so many russian soldiers....and for most of them it_s a liberation war...so they won't stop till they get what they want.Just in Kramatorsk is the most well training fighters left in Ukraine and they got very well develope defensive wall,bunkers..etc build by NATO experts last 8 years.But russians weap out all with phoshorus bombs which desintegrate concrete just like that.....for me this poor guys there are doomed-soon or later.I think that Putin can continious the war a year without a problem.Probably they made their contracts with China,India and who knows also and financialy,military&human personel would be no problem for them
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What a fucking tragedy

Just trying to imagine some end to this shit:
Do you think they can get to a agreement where russians could keep the easter riverside of Dniester but leave Odessa and sea acces to Ukraine as the place could be economically survivable and somehow independent? Let's say russians agree, would ukrainians ( people and Junta) find it acceptable?

Or you rather think russians will go all the way to Dniester river and the slavic part of Moldova?
 
I hope no ma friend.Wish after they take Donbas and Putin ends his"special military operation"with sucess.At least these were two main goals-liberation of Donbas and denazification.He wants all that guys with svastikas tatoos and bring them to court-probably with life or death sentence.....and leave Odessa,Dnipro&Zaporojie for Ukraine.I hope that this could happen and the war finished untill winter.....but Zelenski would not be agree.. ...so here must be advice from U.S. to leave these territories for Russians in the name of peace.Even Kisinger told something similar...that Ukranians must accept loose of some territories and he is an oldschool very experienced figure
 
Nas47 said:
I hope no ma friend.Wish after they take Donbas and Putin ends his"special military operation"with sucess.At least these were two main goals-liberation of Donbas and denazification.He wants all that guys with svastikas tatoos and bring them to court-probably with life or death sentence.....and leave Odessa,Dnipro&Zaporojie for Ukraine.I hope that this could happen and the war finished untill winter.....but Zelenski would not be agree.. ...so here must be advice from U.S. to leave these territories for Russians in the name of peace.Even Kisinger told something similar...that Ukranians must accept loose of some territories and he is an oldschool very experienced figure
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Let's hope for an end, man.
We are not in time for a happy end but maybe we could avoid the big one.
It's late for thousands of people, tho...
 
U.S.president....this living corpse is a gravedigger of America.He and people around him lead the world to an nuke apocalypse.O.k.-we here we will die first 'cause we are very close....but this would knock on your door also.Fuckin',stupid,greedy sons of bitches....millitary industry-bigger vampires than pharma criminals.Hey....fuck it's ok to die...,but my daughter is only 18.....i hate those fuckers,who burned this war&wish they&their families burned in hell forever.Let's God judge me...but this told ma heart,ma mind
 
TripSitterNZ said:
this war is not going to end. Its only getting started
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It could get ugly. Its essentially the west trying to prevent their little Black book from getting out there. I would love to see the US declare war, lmao no one is going to fight for these people. I’ve personally talked several young dudes out of joining the military at my gym. But the subversion of the US military with all the woke nonsense is their own worst enemy.
 
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