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Benzos Diazepam

Snafu in the Void said:
I was given chlordiazepoxide (librium) once for alcohol withdrawal. It was pretty weak shit. Diazepam is way better.

I mean it was better than nothing, but diaz is way better
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Next time I go through withdrawal I hope they give me lots of Propofol & IV Diazepam

FLORALORBS said:
I need help. Was snorting this purple stuff that was coming out of Baltimore, was told it was fent. At first a match stick head size would floor me, full nods etc.. over a period of weeks needed more and more to where I ended up last week snorting 1 gram a day to just be sick.. I don't really even know what it was. I am so disappointed and furious at myself because I have had a problem with opiates for years and I have been on suboxones for 3 years when I decided to stop taking my subs and try this purple stuff. I am so upset with myself I'm so depressed I can't stop crying I'm so mad at myself that I did this after how far I had come but we will skip to the problem at hand. Now I am trying to quit and I'm getting all kinds of different information. My boyfriend who was doing it with me waited 36 hours from the last dose of the purple stuff and took a sub and he had the worst PWD i have ever seen in my life and almost went to the hospital. He had only taken one 8 mg strip and it threw him in to the withdrawals. I did the same thing that day but I took 32 mg at 1 time I didn't feel great but I wasn't having the serious withdrawals that he was having. Because we were feeling so bad because we took the subs too early we went and got more of the purple stuff because that was the only thing that would make us feel normal and like I said he was about to die on my couch so that was the only thing that instantly made him better. So fast forward a month so in total I would say we did this for 3 to 4 months only and only the snorting route and that's where we are now we have like 50 subs but we are afraid to take them. I also have (15) 50 mg tramadol but I don't know anything about them I don't know if They would help me transition from the fent to the tramadol to the subs like a bridge method. Over the last 7 to 10 days we were trying to do the Burmese method where we were taking very little strips of sub along with very little amounts of the purple stuff gradually increasing the suboxone and tapering down the purple ..well we did that and my boyfriend was 3 days without the fentanyl and had like 6-8 MG of subs in him from microdosing, But felt horrible last night again so he stuck on a fentanyl patch which I advised him not to do because I told him that's putting him back at day one because he was doing the Burmese method. Introducing the subs while lowering the Fent and by putting the patch on and I think it made him start over, i don't know. And of course because he did it and I was feeling bad I put on the patch too, well we both slept through the night but I woke up feeling so groggy and out of it so I immediately took the patch off and I feel better and so does he. We did A line of Coke this am and that seems to help tremendously with the withdrawals for some reason. So what do we do now?? I have patches, I have tramadol and a lot of suboxones. I'm trying to get 10mg oxycodone to maybe transition over. I'm wondering if the tramadol can help us transition. Like going from fent, to tramadol, to subs. I also have a few Xanax and weed. This is the worst thing I have ever experienced. It's not like any other opiate where u just take subs when u start feeling bad. No wonder people can't quit. I think I have all the tools to be able to do this and not have any withdrawals but I don't know exactly how I should do it.. any and all advice is welcome. PLEASE I really need help!! thank you in advance.
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Of course it works. It quite literally binds to the same subunits on the GABAa receptors as Alcohol, offsetting the withdrawal.

Alcohol withdrawal generally has quite a short duration, so a short script of diazepam followed by a rapid taper will get just about any alcoholic back into the clear.

Problem is, once some alcoholics discover benzos, they relapse back onto the benzo rather than the alcohol and quite often the withdrawal period from long acting benzos like diazepam can last for months/years as opposed to the 1-2 week withdrawal window from alcohol.
 
Canada seems to be more free with benzos compared to other places and oddly enough benzo addiction isn't that big here. sure some do but not like in the usa with xanax.
 
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Here benzo addiction/gaba addiction is common between ordinary workin people.Talk about to pop a pill or two just to relax and feel capable to fight the life without fight the people..it's not about takin handful of pills.People use it like prescribe in order to function in highly stressed situation...other part drink heavily right in the moment they back from work
 
Diazepam (Valium) 10mg tablets are worth their weight in Gold

Literally the Ultimate Benzodiazepine. Alprazolam (Xanax) is garbage compared to Valium. Clonazepam (Klonopin) is far better than Xanax & Ativan

I’ve taken literally every pharmaceutical benzodiazepine and thienotriazolodiazepine (Etizolam & Deschloroetizolam) and various RC Benzo’s (Diclazepam & Nitrazolam) and NOTHING even comes close to the warm, pleasurable, muscle relaxation Valium offers. Just 2 tablets are enough for a NICE mellow chill

Chemist Leo Sternbach from Hoffman-La Roche Pharma synthesized Diazepam (Valium) in the 50’s in addition to 2-Chloro-Diazepam (Diclazepam) which was never brought to market. He also synthesized Clonazepam (Klonopin)
K-Pin’s ….two of the most highly effective, highly desirable, long acting benzodiazepines.

Alprazolam (Xanax) is waaayyyy over rated. To me, a sleeping pill with zero good-feelings

Diazepam (Valium) is just Soooooo freaking effective & pleasurable. A rapid acting, potent anxiolytic with a very long half-life.

I absolutely LOVE Blue Vallies :)
 
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Valium does have a comforting feeling to it for sure. Somewhat comparable to an opioid, but with a more gradual fade off.

I wouldn't say Xanax is overrated though, it just serves a slightly different usage case and can offer great short term relief for insomnia. Can also be used short term to get back into a regular sleeping pattern if you're prone to irregular sleep cycles.
 
Nas47 said:
Here benzo addiction/gaba addiction is common between ordinary workin people.Talk about to pop a pill or two just to relax and feel capable to fight the life without fight the people..it's not about takin handful of pills.People use it like prescribe in order to function in highly stressed situation...other part drink heavily right in the moment they back from work
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"feel capable to fight the life without to fight the people"

Such beautiful words.
Nas, my friend... you're a true poet 😎

Long life diazepam!!!
God save the Pill, as them brits sing...
 
I don’t get how anyone describes Alprazolam as sedating or useful with insomnia. My doctor keeps me on it due to the more intoxicating and sedating effects of other BZDs. It doesn’t help me sleep at all except in calming my racing thoughts. Other benzos are far better for insomnia in my experience, any other benzos really. Alpraz is the most “upper” type benzo for me. 1mg of clonazepam and I’m passing out for the night, 1mg alpraz and I’m just chillin but can’t sleep.

Weird.
 
I was just putting some rubbish from my car into my big bin and found a 5mg diaz still in the packet. I couldn't believe my eyes. That's how precious these things are to me.

Until last year I got private scripts for 100 x 5mg nitrazepam (Mogadon). In April last year I got cut off cold turkey by the doctor. Relapsed on alcohol and within a month was in ICU, then in and out of hosp for a few months.

After that I still couldn't find a doctor who would prescribe benzos of any kind. It was absolutely horrible. I eventually found one and I'm allowed 50 x 5mg diazepam every couple of months, with a lecture about it not being a long-term solution.

Meanwhile I can buy a bottle of vodka a day from the same bottleshop without question if I want to -- a guy in Melbourne died from alcohol toxicity recently and he'd bought 11 bottles of vodka in the 10 days leading up to his death.

So I ration my little diazepams like crazy and even halve them sometimes. I don't care if I'm on them for the rest of my life (already been 30 years on and off).
 
Cream Gravy? said:
I don’t get how anyone describes Alprazolam as sedating or useful with insomnia. My doctor keeps me on it due to the more intoxicating and sedating effects of other BZDs. It doesn’t help me sleep at all except in calming my racing thoughts. Other benzos are far better for insomnia in my experience, any other benzos really. Alpraz is the most “upper” type benzo for me. 1mg of clonazepam and I’m passing out for the night, 1mg alpraz and I’m just chillin but can’t sleep.

Weird.
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My experiences with Benzo's have been limited to Valium and Xanax, so I have none other to compare them to. I'd say Xanax does a better job "knocking me out" compared to Valium.

For me, Valium basically numbs any sense of anxiety. I like how it feels. With Xanax, I don't really feel anything. It's almost like downing a bottle of Vodka too quickly and being KOed before having a chance to feel drunk.

Everyone's different I guess.
 
Dextro .45 said:
Diazepam (Valium) 10mg tablets are worth their weight in Gold

Literally the Ultimate Benzodiazepine. Alprazolam (Xanax) is garbage compared to Valium. Clonazepam (Klonopin) is far better than Xanax & Ativan

I’ve taken literally every pharmaceutical benzodiazepine and thienotriazolodiazepine (Etizolam & Deschloroetizolam) and various RC Benzo’s (Diclazepam & Nitrazolam) and NOTHING even comes close to the warm, pleasurable, muscle relaxation Valium offers. Just 2 tablets are enough for a NICE mellow chill

Chemist Leo Sternbach from Hoffman-La Roche Pharma synthesized Diazepam (Valium) in the 50’s in addition to 2-Chloro-Diazepam (Diclazepam) which was never brought to market. He also synthesized Clonazepam (Klonopin)
K-Pin’s ….two of the most highly effective, highly desirable, long acting benzodiazepines.

Alprazolam (Xanax) is waaayyyy over rated. To me, a sleeping pill with zero good-feelings

Diazepam (Valium) is just Soooooo freaking effective & pleasurable. A fast acting, potent anxiolytic with a very long half-life.

I absolutely LOVE Blue Vallies :)
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I concur with you 1000%, BUD. Xanax is overrated short half life bitter tasting seizure inducing shit. I don't have a preferred one: both valium and klonopin work wonders for me. The chalky taste of valium that reminds me of super muscular relaxation and the minty taste of clonazepam....yum, they both good as hell.1
 
I hadn't tried alprazolam until the last couple of years. Tried it many times now and decided it's not all it is been cracked up to be. Lots of promise, even for those without anxiety, yet i never experienced any of the hyped err experience. I agree with the above, diazepam is truly the gold standard.

Oh and some people have said to me "ah well if you had this or that xanax you would think differently" - personally I don't buy it. Diazepam is consistent across many brands I've tried. Likewise with other pharma benzos.
 
Never had actual diazepam but a bunch of other, prescription as well as RC (etizolam, pyrazolam, and some others), benzodiazepines yet found nothing in them beside anxiety/panic relief when necessary. Overshooting the dosage makes me doing weird shit like engaging in a fight with the next best stranger (was in a psych ward, they gave me 5mg because I didn't black out after 2) which is quite similar to alcohol but somehow worse. In teenage years I liked doing 1mg of lorazepam together with a few beers, it was one of the best downer highs so far but also so unpredictable.
 
Like really, is there anything I can take to prevent withdrawal? I'm scared. It's not been 48 hours yet and that's the half life, and I do have some kava capsules but I don't think that will get me through this, I don't even have that many. I just can't see how this isn't malpractice. And yeah, I have gabapentin as well, but that doesn't do anything to me because I've been taking it for almost 2 years at 600mg a day. I'm not trying to run my whole script out dealing with this shit. So frustrated
 
A lot of Dr.s are coming to the realization that benzos are short term therapy. I know people don't agree..........and they certainly don't like it...........but many Dr.s feel that 3 months is the max. Benzos were meant to get people through short term crisis ( death of a loved one, divorce, emotional upsets, and to be in conjuction with opioids for pain after an injury ) and they were never intended for long term use.

The Dr's gave them to people month after month ( long after the crisis was over ( and injury ) and they did more harm than good. Throwing scripts at people was a great way to get patients off their back and out of the exam room so they could go to the next door and knock. " I'm coming in with my script pad so you will be gone in 3 minutes tops so that next door will put major $$$ in my pocket. many of them operated like that. And they got people dependent and basically where you are at now.

The dark net is an option. Kratom is an option. I mean you have options but nothing will really replace the valium without going on the web and getting RC's. All you can do is a quick taper and when the pills are gone monitor yourself for seizures. The ER close to you will give you a few when you are in crisis but it will be a one time thing.

I know some people feel like benzos are for life ( and if you can get the right Dr. they may agree ) but many are just prescribing for 90 days only and if you still need them after that they are switching to other things like buspar, hydroxyzine and frickin' seroquel.

Good luck........I hope you find a solution.
 
@Nurse Ratched

is 15mg really dependent nurse ?

6 months hmm should be yucky for a week or so and no seizures slight sleep loss and a little anxiety.

thats like three tablets yes ?

people take that stuff by the bottle then do over servos here.

I would not be so worried about it it will get better if you follow your doctors advice.

its not mall practice and why would you want to go to the law if you take drugs ?

I would be more worried about the being on a cocktail and then wanting to take more drugs on top.

If he is to stay taking meds there going to rotate him anyway and he is going to have to get used to stopping and starting.
 
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