Meth ⫸Methamphetamine Megathread⫷

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Direct damage to your gastrointestinal tract from meth being caustic is not actually what you need to worry about. Your stomach has several somewhat redundant systems to control the pH of everything that it passes to the digestive tract.

Generally the pH of your stomach acid is 1-4. However, your duodenum uses the large amount of bicarbonate produced in the pancreas to continually moderate the pH of everything entering the digestive tract. Several integrated systems kick in to quickly control stomach pH once it passes 4.5.

Pharmaceutical grade dl-methamphetamine hydrochloride has a pH of around 6, although street meth varies from 4-7 depending on all kinds of things.

What you want to worry about is getting an Ileus, or the reduction or cessation of peristalis or gut motility in your intestines. Meth causes this through several different mechanisms: directly through monoamine cascade (particularly norepinephrine), increased expression of the CART peptide, vasoconstriction, and dehydration.

Basically the contents of your bowels stop moving and harden into extremely hard/dense pebbles that can tear at your lower intestines and anal cavity if you try and force them out or mechanically extract them.

The ideal way to avoid them is actually not to eat too much when on a meth bender and to consume fairly large doses of Movicol laxative containing polyethylene glycol and electrolytes together with plenty of liquid. Other types of laxative don’t help this condition.

Personally, I think a good dose of Movicol is up there in the top 3-4 pre-binge harm reduction preparations. If you get those solid impacted shit pebbles lodged in your colon the irritation often feels like you need to piss but can’t and the sensation renders you impotent.


Yeah. Maybe not the best way to respond to somebody in a harm reduction forum. Sensible strategies for mitigating the many many risks of methamphetamine should be promoted here. And what did not kill / harm one person can easily snuff out or seriously damage another.



A great topic to take over to CEPS. Or maybe Philosophy and Spirituality. Can animals really be raped? They’ve got a soapbox to suit everyone over there.





Sigh. @PriestTheyCalledHim, I think you’ve found your soulmate here in @FallenOne86. I reckon he can happily provide you with blow-by-blow reports of all the deranged and depraved sexual degradation your voyeuristic heart can handle. Make friends and you might even get a livestream and on-demand performance of your requests and suggestions!

But you don't even know me. I dislike needles, never injected drugs, and the only stimulant I use now is caffeine.

What he did with that porn lady is tame, vanilla chemsex. There is nothing wrong with it but it is standard chemsex/pnp according to friends who were into METH.

I actually do not like PNP/SLAMFUCKKK porn that I have seen by browsing on Tumblr and now on free amateur porn sites, but it is not sexy or hot to me, and is actually boring and a turn off to me. I have never used METH and never will. I do not use any drugs now by choice, but if others want to use any drugs they want they can do this by their own choice.

I have met tweakers and chemsex fans who do fisting or use dildos when their cock goes soft from speed.

 

[FallenOne86]

But you don't even know me. I dislike needles, never injected drugs, and the only stimulant I use now is caffeine.

What he did with that porn lady is tame, vanilla chemsex. There is nothing wrong with it but it is standard chemsex/pnp according to friends who were into METH.

I actually do not like PNP/SLAMFUCKKK porn that I have seen by browsing on Tumblr and now on free amateur porn sites, but it is not sexy or hot to me, and is actually boring and a turn off to me. I have never used METH and never will. I do not use any drugs now by choice, but if others want to use any drugs they want they can do this by their own choice.

I have met tweakers and chemsex fans who do fisting or use dildos when their cock goes soft from speed.

Don’t get it twisted homie. You don’t know me neither. I don’t use dildos to please the ladies and never have. And as far as that whole pnp/nasty gay tweaker stuff you fantasize about.. that ain’t my kinda thing bro. No judgement here but I ain’t wired that way so thanks but no thanks!

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Don’t get it twisted homie. You don’t know me neither. I don’t use dildos to please the ladies and never have. And as far as that whole pnp/nasty gay tweaker stuff you fantasize about.. that ain’t my kinda thing bro. No judgement here but I ain’t wired that way so thanks but no thanks!

I didn't mean pnp/Chemsex as being only for bisexual and gay men, but I thought chemsex/pnp means having sex on METH, coke, or basically almost any drug? I remember when sociologists and the media both LGBT and non-LGB Claimed that chemsex/pnp was somehow super new in the late 1990s or early 2000s, only ever happened or was done in large cities, never in small cities, towns,villages, etc. When in reality it had been going on and super mainstream since the 1960s.

I have never used a dildo with a lady either. If she wanted me to I would. I have used dildos in men but condoms were used, and I did this as they were bottom/versatile and I am super careful and picky about which men I fuck with my cock and these were guys I assumed could be Poz and we were just very casually dating or hooking up. I have no desire to do receptive anal sex or much anal sex at all, personally.

I was then living in what to me was a super rural area, but was a traditional university town and a gay friend who preferred to have chem sex and pnp on heroin, any opiates he could get, alcohol, weed, and at rare times coke and meth unfortunately got pozzed with HIV and HEP C from receptive anal sex or sharing needles, and he became extremely sick with delirious fevers and opportunistic infections, had AIDS with a very low cd4 count, and he was not the only person this happened to. He is on meds for HIV and HEP C and is otherwise in excellent health and the only drug he uses is marijuana as needed for (no pun) chronic pain. Luckily when he thought he was "neg" he never infected his then partner, or a guy we all knew who hooked up with him.

I never had anal or oral sex with him, only mild w/s (watching each other piss in a club toilet while I was drunk), some mutual touching, kissing, and spanking which is all safe sex. I did this as I assumed correctly that he is Poz and I get super horny, insatiable, and love public sex and exhibitionism when drunk or on drugs.

I am HIV NEG, have no sexual diseases or parasites, I stopped hooking up in 2008 I believe, and I no longer use drugs by personal choice.

 

[AbbeyLee]

Sigh. @PriestTheyCalledHim, I think you’ve found your soulmate here in @FallenOne86. I reckon he can happily provide you with blow-by-blow reports of all the deranged and depraved sexual degradation your voyeuristic heart can handle.

I've just been reading about how he banged the ex-pornstar for 10 hours straight. I think what actually happened is he jerked off to a current pornstar for 10 hours straight. Men get a bit confused sometimes you know

 

[AbbeyLee]

But you don't even know me. I dislike needles, never injected drugs, and the only stimulant I use now is caffeine.

What he did with that porn lady is tame, vanilla chemsex. There is nothing wrong with it but it is standard chemsex/pnp according to friends who were into METH.

I actually do not like PNP/SLAMFUCKKK porn that I have seen by browsing on Tumblr and now on free amateur porn sites, but it is not sexy or hot to me, and is actually boring and a turn off to me. I have never used METH and never will. I do not use any drugs now by choice, but if others want to use any drugs they want they can do this by their own choice.

I have met tweakers and chemsex fans who do fisting or use dildos when their cock goes soft from speed.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

What can I say? I have been around. I never was a rent boy or escort, or never did any actual porn films, but if this were the 1970s or very early 1980s before 1984 I would have done all types of porn bisexua (mmf/ffm)l, gay, porn with TS/TG men and ladies, heterosexual porn, and not only the solo/fetish and B&D, S&M, and bondage without discipline porn I did online when I was in debt, almost homeless (this is a fear of mine), and desperate for M-O-N-E-Y!

 

[FallenOne86]

I've just been reading about how he banged the ex-pornstar for 10 hours straight. I think what actually happened is he jerked off to a current pornstar for 10 hours straight. Men get a bit confused sometimes you know

Haha Abbey let’s be honest.. you wish you were pretty enough to even be a pornstar but every time you get up in the morning and brush your teeth you have to be reminded that you’ll never be pretty enough to be one.

And so you say something funny about me that isn’t true to get a few laughs and I did think it was funny.. but babe.. you know you wish you had this dick and I’m not just letting my ego talk. I know I can back it up. No need to lie if it ain’t true I got nothing to hide. What about you? What’s your deal?

 

[AbbeyLee]

Haha Abbey let’s be honest.. you wish you were pretty enough to even be a pornstar but every time you get up in the morning and brush your teeth you have to be reminded that you’ll never be pretty enough to be one.

And so you say something funny about me that isn’t true to get a few laughs and I did think it was funny.. but babe.. you know you wish you had this dick and I’m not just letting my ego talk. I know I can back it up. No need to lie if it ain’t true I got nothing to hide. What about you? What’s your deal?

I'm 48. I've got nothing to prove

 

[deficiT]

Haha Abbey let’s be honest.. you wish you were pretty enough to even be a pornstar but every time you get up in the morning and brush your teeth you have to be reminded that you’ll never be pretty enough to be one.

And so you say something funny about me that isn’t true to get a few laughs and I did think it was funny.. but babe.. you know you wish you had this dick and I’m not just letting my ego talk. I know I can back it up. No need to lie if it ain’t true I got nothing to hide. What about you? What’s your deal?

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I've just been reading about how he banged the ex-pornstar for 10 hours straight. I think what actually happened is he jerked off to a current pornstar for 10 hours straight. Men get a bit confused sometimes you know

Quoting your post too so you know I'm talking about yours as well.

Let's try and keep this thread on the topic of methamphetamine and IV meth use, although I know sometimes sex enters into the conversation let's not slide into petty squabbles, it just derails the thread

 

[Atomic_Decay]

Let's try and keep this thread on the topic of methamphetamine and IV meth use, although I know sometimes sex enters into the conversation

For specific posts/questions about Meth and Sex we have a Megathread in Sex, Love and Relationships…

Sex + Drugs - Meth & Sex Megathread

My bf and I sometimes party together for a couple days. It use to be fun but now all he wants to do is masturbate to porn for hours even days edging. He'll lay next to me and have zero interest in sex or playing with me. He actually prefers to watch me mess around with other dudes than actually...

bluelight.org

 

[deficiT]

For specific posts/questions about Meth and Sex we have a Megathread in Sex, Love and Relationships…

Sex + Drugs - Meth & Sex Megathread

My bf and I sometimes party together for a couple days. It use to be fun but now all he wants to do is masturbate to porn for hours even days edging. He'll lay next to me and have zero interest in sex or playing with me. He actually prefers to watch me mess around with other dudes than actually...

bluelight.org

Well the way meth and sex go together maybe we should call it an ubermegathread.

 

[AbbeyLee]

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Quoting your post too so you know I'm talking about yours as well.

Let's try and keep this thread on the topic of methamphetamine and IV meth use, although I know sometimes sex enters into the conversation let's not slide into petty squabbles, it just derails the thread

Yeah sorry, I still forget the different rules for different sections of the forum and sometimes think everything is The Lounge

 

[Atomic_Decay]

Well the way meth and sex go together maybe we should call it an ubermegathread.

Apart from the megathread there are also dozens of random threads and many more posts all over the joint on this wonderful topic. It’s like the first thing to do after fucking like a maniac for hours is dissect your depravity online.

 

[deficiT]

Apart from the megathread there are also dozens of random threads and many more posts all over the joint on this wonderful topic. It’s like the first thing to do after fucking like a maniac for hours is dissect your depravity online.

One thing I would like to work on, is consolidating some of the huge pile of stray threads we have in various forums into more proper mega threads. I'm trying to work on that in OD at the moment, just because we get so many random questions throughout the day. Once they're answered, I don't think there's any reason they can't be ferried off into it's respective threads.

It's a little different in BDD, since the nature of it is just straight basic questions about anything and everything, I think it's more ok to have a bunch of just general questions, but if you see anything that could be consolidated, feel free to do some janitorial thread management.

 

[Eligiu]

Question for seasoned IV users out there.

I've been using meth since 2016. During 2016 I would have used maybe 20 or so times IV as I needed someone else to do it for me and I usually ate or sniffed it instead when I couldn't get in touch with my friend. Initially 2 points would last me 2 days or so, but by early 2017 on a whim I picked up some needles and scored and managed to shoot up first try. Since then my rate was about 75/25 hitting to missing and when I couldn't hit on the second or third day of a binge I would plug it instead. I would generally use the first 5 days of my pay cycle (meth) then weed for the second week and cough syrup. I mixed the meth with codeine and heroin when I could get it.

By mid 2017 I needed 3 points to get some kind of rush and I remember doing 3 point shots which did nothing much. By the last fortnight of my using I used close to a gram a day the last couple of days then I went to rehab.

For four years I had periods of abstinence with slips periodically, usually 3-9 months apart. Generally I would buy 3 points and it would easily last me 2-3 days.

Eventually I got 18 months off the gear but relapsed in late December last year. Initially I could buy 2 points to last me a day and a half, but then in January I think I fucked up my tolerance by doing 4 points in a night. By January I also started on dexamphetamine which I'm aware would be creating a cross tolerance.

December - Feb I was using 3-4 days a week. March - May I used once to twice a week/fortnight. 3-4 points was more than enough to get me spun if it was quality gear. However, one night in May I used a gram in a night and since then I needed half a gram at least to get any kind of rush.

Come May 20 I moved into my n new apartment and with it came a $150 a week increase in rent. Bye bye extra meth money. But I figured taking a month off wouldn't be a bad thing anyway, seeing as it would reduce my tolerance.

I used a point tonight and it kept me awake all night which is more than the last batch of 3p I used did. That barely kept me up. Is a month long enough to have reset my tolerance down to something approaching baseline? Not all the way obviously, but if I keep my uses spaced a month or so apart can I keep my tolerance low even with the dexamphetamine and fucking it up with the gram?

 

[deficiT]

Question for seasoned IV users out there.

I've been using meth since 2016. During 2016 I would have used maybe 20 or so times IV as I needed someone else to do it for me and I usually ate or sniffed it instead when I couldn't get in touch with my friend. Initially 2 points would last me 2 days or so, but by early 2017 on a whim I picked up some needles and scored and managed to shoot up first try. Since then my rate was about 75/25 hitting to missing and when I couldn't hit on the second or third day of a binge I would plug it instead. I would generally use the first 5 days of my pay cycle (meth) then weed for the second week and cough syrup. I mixed the meth with codeine and heroin when I could get it.

By mid 2017 I needed 3 points to get some kind of rush and I remember doing 3 point shots which did nothing much. By the last fortnight of my using I used close to a gram a day the last couple of days then I went to rehab.

For four years I had periods of abstinence with slips periodically, usually 3-9 months apart. Generally I would buy 3 points and it would easily last me 2-3 days.

Eventually I got 18 months off the gear but relapsed in late December last year. Initially I could buy 2 points to last me a day and a half, but then in January I think I fucked up my tolerance by doing 4 points in a night. By January I also started on dexamphetamine which I'm aware would be creating a cross tolerance.

December - Feb I was using 3-4 days a week. March - May I used once to twice a week/fortnight. 3-4 points was more than enough to get me spun if it was quality gear. However, one night in May I used a gram in a night and since then I needed half a gram at least to get any kind of rush.

Come May 20 I moved into my n new apartment and with it came a $150 a week increase in rent. Bye bye extra meth money. But I figured taking a month off wouldn't be a bad thing anyway, seeing as it would reduce my tolerance.

I used a point tonight and it kept me awake all night which is more than the last batch of 3p I used did. That barely kept me up. Is a month long enough to have reset my tolerance down to something approaching baseline? Not all the way obviously, but if I keep my uses spaced a month or so apart can I keep my tolerance low even with the dexamphetamine and fucking it up with the gram?

I can't say for sure, but imo, there is some permatolerance that can come into play with long term amphetamine use, like many other drugs. But yeah, generally speaking I think a month, while not resetting it to baseline (you'll never get there again) is enough of a break to give you a better time with the stuff. And yes, the dextroamphetamine script will definitely play a factor.

I can say that magnesium and NMDA antagonists/dissos do a good job at reducing some tolerance for stimulant drugs quickly. Just be careful with drug combos if considering dissos.

 

[Eligiu]

I used meth heavily in 2017 (my last week of using culminating in almost a gram a day IV) and only then did I suffer from a bad comedown. I'd been using regularly for around 7-9 months at least half a fortnight or so where money allowed and a bit extra here and there. I felt miserable for weeks, like nothing would ever cheer me up again. And I was utterly exhausted, I didn't feel like I'd have the energy or motivation to do anything worthwhile in a long time but I pulled my way through the rest of my law degree and put myself into outpatient treatment specifically for meth use.

Over 4 years post rehab I periodically slipped up 3-9 months apart (couldn't break that one year mark) and never had a bad comedown until the one time I overamped and that was awful.

Then I had 18 months off it completely and I definitely was back to normal.

Relapsed in early December and went back to using regularly again 3-4 times a week until February when I scaled back to once a week. Did that until May when I scaled back to once a month.

Didn't have any noticeable comedown effects during the past 6 months of my using more or less except for the time I overamped. Still an IV user.

I wouldn't recommend everyone else try to use meth like me. I'm addicted to the needle, not the drug. I'm not able to shoot heroin (my preferred drug) due to maintenance therapy so I use meth due to availability. Because of that and having both narcolepsy and ADHD it doesn't really have the full effect on me that it has on other users. I've never felt like I was touching god or anything after shooting up. Bit of a rush then thats it. I also don't endlessly wank and have sex, I usually just browse the forum, sit on the discord, and write in a journal.

I can't say for sure, but imo, there is some permatolerance that can come into play with long term amphetamine use, like many other drugs. But yeah, generally speaking I think a month, while not resetting it to baseline (you'll never get there again) is enough of a break to give you a better time with the stuff. And yes, the dextroamphetamine script will definitely play a factor.

I can say that magnesium and NMDA antagonists/dissos do a good job at reducing some tolerance for stimulant drugs quickly. Just be careful with drug combos if considering dissos.

Thanks for the reply. Yeah I've noticed that the dexamphetamine definitely plays a part in how much of a rush I get and there isn't much I can do about that considering I need it to function at an appropriate level. I'm not willing to forego my prescription to get a better high in any way, shape, or form.

I'm thinking that keeping my use spaced to a month apart is what I need to do in order to get anything out of it anymore, perhaps even longer at some stage.

 

[deficiT]

Thanks for the reply. Yeah I've noticed that the dexamphetamine definitely plays a part in how much of a rush I get and there isn't much I can do about that considering I need it to function at an appropriate level. I'm not willing to forego my prescription to get a better high in any way, shape, or form.

I'm thinking that keeping my use spaced to a month apart is what I need to do in order to get anything out of it anymore, perhaps even longer at some stage.

Yeah, I can empathize as I can't really function without my daily amphetamine prescription. But I have only touched meth once in the past year, which is great progress for me, as I used pretty heavily from like '17 - '21. Definitely the least frequency of meth use the better, if you still are trying to get those types of effects from it.

 

[Eligiu]

Yeah, I can empathize as I can't really function without my daily amphetamine prescription. But I have only touched meth once in the past year, which is great progress for me, as I used pretty heavily from like '17 - '21. Definitely the least frequency of meth use the better, if you still are trying to get those types of effects from it.

That is great progress man! You should be really proud of that. I remember back in 2018 when I managed to only use I think 3 times that year I was pretty proud of that, then 2019 it might have been 2 times, 2020 it was once. So I made slow progress but the progress was there.

 

[PokeMom]

I have seen “plugging” mentioned several times but cannot seem to find specifics - I have never heard of this, I can assume what it means but how is it done? Sounds like it would burn the shit out of my asshole. What is the dosing like for a newbie (not really new but haven’t used in 17 years.). Is there a difference in rush between IV and plugging? Also, does plugging vs IV create more of a time-release effect? Sorry I have so many questions.