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Elon Musk officially buys Twitter, DONE DEAL !

Has anyone actually watched a long-ish interview with Elon? The guy will literally talk out of his ass the whole time, it's absurd. Any "young mind" would see right through it.



I bet his new TED talk is hilariously painful to watch, don't know if I want to bring that kind of pain upon myself but it's tempting.
 

Or like the time when he swatted a whistleblower
Oh yeah, that one too. It's just become impossible to defend Elon Musk's ridiculous behaviour. This Twitter thing is just the icing on a gradually swelling cake made out of stupid shit. The idea that he would spend $44 billion on a social media company rather, than, say, basically anything else just makes my brain hurt. Things that $44 billion would have been better spent on than making sure less people can hurt Elon Musk's ego:
  • SpaceX's Mars ambitions, for one, the Starship project, etc.
  • Accelerating Tesla's zero-cobalt battery ambitions so that the electric vehicle revolution doesn't need to be inconveniently propped up by unpoliced child labour in cobalt mines inconveniently located in places that just don't give a fuck about this sort of thing. SpaceX and Tesla remain incredible and important companies, although it has to be said that that $44 billion could also have been spent...
  • Restructuring the workforce (I mean - hiring more people - paying the existing staff more, primarily - maybe getting a real HR department, taking the initiative as major tech companies that so many others look up to by actually sanctioning and even funding the unionisation of their workforce) so that the companies weren't so damn dystopian and their achievements aren't tainted by the notoriously toxic work culture that we keep hearing about, despite Elon's best efforts to limit the free speech of anyone who wants to talk about that.
These 3 things are just in his own companies, I mentioned them first because as a late-stage Western capitalism absolutist, they are things that, one would think, could actually have crossed his mind, given that they would benefit the companies and endeavours that do seem to be important to the human species even if the way he intends to get there ("at any cost") is increasingly disturbing. There are of course, other things that don't involve his existing companies:
  • Saving over 120 million people from starvation (according to the World Food Programme director in 2021, it would take $6 billion to save 42 million people, after which Musk facetiously promised to contribute $6 billion if it could be shown exactly how this would "end world hunger" - ending world hunger permanently was never on the cards, this is obviously a problem that will take more than just throwing immense amounts of money at it - in fact it's largely caused by the idea that just throwing money at things is the solution to every single problem - nonetheless, a budget was provided, and Elon ignored it)
  • Countering Bill Gate's $0.5 billion Tesla short approximately 88 times over so he can forget about it and cooperate with Gates on some philanthropic endeavours (OK, Musk could not actually do this due to securities legislation - I include it mainly just to illustrate the pettiness of the man. For the record I'm not trying to wade into any nonsense discussion about the reason why this issue even exists, or Gates himself as a person, those things aren't relevant to the fact that throwing $44 billion away on bullshit, basically, makes this half a billion short "controversy" seem totally irrelevant in comparison
  • Completely negate the impact on the US economy of the $40 billion lend-lease aid package for Ukraine, with $4 billion left over to sort out all the other insane shit going on in American politics right now (I know, throwing money at stuff doesn't solve problems, but, it can help)
  • Oh that note... umm.. healthcare? Education? I'm sure investing $44 billion in education would ensure that the next generation doesn't believe in so much absolutely brain-melting, morally abhorrent, absolutely dumb fucking shit as the current relevant majority of voting adults appears to that is currently threatening to absolutely fuck the world. Then again, Musk is an educated, smart guy, despite being an egomaniacal douchebag. Some kind of education system that taught the kind of introspective self-analysis required to avoid these traits in ones' self - and to recognise them in others and avoid giving them positions from which they can wield too much influence - would probably be the best kind of help. Although maybe not immediately, there's a lot of pretty dangerous, like, immediate existential risk shit going on that we need to pull through as a species first.
 
Has anyone actually watched a long-ish interview with Elon? The guy will literally talk out of his ass the whole time, it's absurd. Any "young mind" would see right through it.



I bet his new TED talk is hilariously painful to watch, don't know if I want to bring that kind of pain upon myself but it's tempting.

This is why I cringe when people think he's some sort of genius. He's not stupid by any means but he is not some genius intellectual.
 
Oh yeah, that one too. It's just become impossible to defend Elon Musk's ridiculous behaviour. This Twitter thing is just the icing on a gradually swelling cake made out of stupid shit. The idea that he would spend $44 billion on a social media company rather, than, say, basically anything else just makes my brain hurt. Things that $44 billion would have been better spent on than making sure less people can hurt Elon Musk's ego:
  • SpaceX's Mars ambitions, for one, the Starship project, etc.
  • Accelerating Tesla's zero-cobalt battery ambitions so that the electric vehicle revolution doesn't need to be inconveniently propped up by unpoliced child labour in cobalt mines inconveniently located in places that just don't give a fuck about this sort of thing. SpaceX and Tesla remain incredible and important companies, although it has to be said that that $44 billion could also have been spent...
  • Restructuring the workforce (I mean - hiring more people - paying the existing staff more, primarily - maybe getting a real HR department, taking the initiative as major tech companies that so many others look up to by actually sanctioning and even funding the unionisation of their workforce) so that the companies weren't so damn dystopian and their achievements aren't tainted by the notoriously toxic work culture that we keep hearing about, despite Elon's best efforts to limit the free speech of anyone who wants to talk about that.
These 3 things are just in his own companies, I mentioned them first because as a late-stage Western capitalism absolutist, they are things that, one would think, could actually have crossed his mind, given that they would benefit the companies and endeavours that do seem to be important to the human species even if the way he intends to get there ("at any cost") is increasingly disturbing. There are of course, other things that don't involve his existing companies:
  • Saving over 120 million people from starvation (according to the World Food Programme director in 2021, it would take $6 billion to save 42 million people, after which Musk facetiously promised to contribute $6 billion if it could be shown exactly how this would "end world hunger" - ending world hunger permanently was never on the cards, this is obviously a problem that will take more than just throwing immense amounts of money at it - in fact it's largely caused by the idea that just throwing money at things is the solution to every single problem - nonetheless, a budget was provided, and Elon ignored it)
  • Countering Bill Gate's $0.5 billion Tesla short approximately 88 times over so he can forget about it and cooperate with Gates on some philanthropic endeavours (OK, Musk could not actually do this due to securities legislation - I include it mainly just to illustrate the pettiness of the man. For the record I'm not trying to wade into any nonsense discussion about the reason why this issue even exists, or Gates himself as a person, those things aren't relevant to the fact that throwing $44 billion away on bullshit, basically, makes this half a billion short "controversy" seem totally irrelevant in comparison
  • Completely negate the impact on the US economy of the $40 billion lend-lease aid package for Ukraine, with $4 billion left over to sort out all the other insane shit going on in American politics right now (I know, throwing money at stuff doesn't solve problems, but, it can help)
  • Oh that note... umm.. healthcare? Education? I'm sure investing $44 billion in education would ensure that the next generation doesn't believe in so much absolutely brain-melting, morally abhorrent, absolutely dumb fucking shit as the current relevant majority of voting adults appears to that is currently threatening to absolutely fuck the world. Then again, Musk is an educated, smart guy, despite being an egomaniacal douchebag. Some kind of education system that taught the kind of introspective self-analysis required to avoid these traits in ones' self - and to recognise them in others and avoid giving them positions from which they can wield too much influence - would probably be the best kind of help. Although maybe not immediately, there's a lot of pretty dangerous, like, immediate existential risk shit going on that we need to pull through as a species first.
He doesn't have 44B, especially after Tesla tanked, and selling that much stocks would tank it even further...

Tesla is not at all important anymore, multiple companies make better electric cars and multiple companies actually have driverless cars on the road because they didn't go the vision only route...

Just a car company that doesn't do anything special anymore, the batteries (there are no true zero cobalt ambitions) , the FSD, the robots, DOJO, it's all just noise...
 
He doesn't have 44B, especially after Tesla tanked, and selling that much stocks would tank it even further...

Tesla is not at all important anymore, multiple companies make better electric cars and multiple companies actually have driverless cars on the road because they didn't go the vision only route...

Just a car company that doesn't do anything special anymore, the batteries (there are no true zero cobalt ambitions) , the FSD, the robots, DOJO, it's all just noise...

I know he's borrowed it, my point was mainly just that if you have the ability to get $44 billion together - there are better ways to spend it.

Tesla's current or future relevance is also kinda immaterial to me, although I do think it's important not to let everything that the guy's done be tainted by his character. They have been important - and whether or not it's Tesla that does it first, zero-cobalt batteries are on the cards eventually. You have to admire the vision of all these companies though, IMO - whether or not you believe it's by accident or design, or these lofty ambitions are achievable, and whether or not Musk actually believes they are achievable - investing $44 billion into trying to achieve them is still an exponentially better use of such a vast financial resource.

Elon is basically an idiot savant AI himself - he's very good at some things, but very, very dumb about a lot of other things, and unfortunately dumb enough not to recognise what he's dumb about. Unfortunately many people are also dumb enough to think that because he's very good at some things (even savant, genius level, I would argue) it doesn't mean he knows everything about everything. Dogecoin, anyone?
 
I know he's borrowed it, my point was mainly just that if you have the ability to get $44 billion together - there are better ways to spend it.
Agreed.

You have to admire the vision of all these companies though
I don't admire vision, I admire active steps towards things and actual results... Where are the results? At most one can argue that Tesla made electronic cars more popular.
Tesla is just a car company where the one goal is to keep the valuation as high as possible, fair enough on the batteries though, Neuralink is 10+ years behind the state-of-the-art and pretty much everyone of note left because having Musk as a boss is impossible, and the Boring company is just ridiculous. SpaceX is actually decently run, but it's not like they're really working towards making Musk's pipe dream of having a Mars colony.

It's all talk as far as I see.

and unfortunately dumb enough not to recognise what he's dumb about
Right on. Doesn't go well with the popular image of a genius though.
 
Probably some of you (specially Musk fanboys) will consider this a total quack/craziness but there's no other human that I would say it fits the Antichrist profile better than Elon...

It's important to consider that the profecies (not only on Revelations but in so many different sources, not only Christian) claim that the Antichrist would seem a great person, with a message of freedom and he will "fight" the unjustice in so many ways. I guess that even if it's not him (and even if there's no Antichrist at all) the Elites need some good cop-bad cop narrative to hinder the possibility of self-organized revolutions. There's always the need of finding someone that could amalgamate a large number of people, using an apparently neutral thinking or even against everything "established" to try to establish a new social reality and direct the disruptive energies that appear in each case.
 
I'm not a betting man. Please interpret :shrug:
You can't read odds?? I even put the (imo more readable) decimal odds in brackets.

1.36 means that you win 36 if you put forward 100. It's the same as -275 which means you need to put forward 275 to win 100 (it'll always be minus if the odd is less than 2 (which means even money). +185 means you win 185 if you put forward 100, same as 2.85.
 
The establishment is having a struggle sesh with the prospect of losing their number one tool to push their narratives and censor wrong think. Hopefully Elon proves its 90% bots and gets a good deal on it. And ushers it an era of dissident billionaires buying things for good. It’s not easy for them bc the establishment will use the the intelligence agencies and anything else at its disposal to attack you.
 
You can't read odds?? I even put the (imo more readable) decimal odds in brackets.

1.36 means that you win 36 if you put forward 100. It's the same as -275 which means you need to put forward 275 to win 100 (it'll always be minus if the odd is less than 2 (which means even money). +185 means you win 185 if you put forward 100, same as 2.85.
Thank you for taking the time to explain it, I almost understand. Which one means he is more likely to take over? :cool:
 
Thank you for taking the time to explain it, I almost understand. Which one means he is more likely to take over? :cool:
Musk getting out of the deal is more likely, hence the low 1.36 in decimal odds.
That's probably taking the shareholder vote and inevitable legal magic tricks into account, which could delay/cancel the takeover.

I'm honestly rooting for him, well mostly for the epic legal battle. 44B, we don't see that every day :)
 
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