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Mental Health Coming off Invega (paliperidone) injections, v 5.0

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t_xeplionhell said:
month 1-3 and then it lessened and returned at month 6-9 and now it went away but I still have issues falling asleep because of recent mild acidental injurities.
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Were you taking Somnífers during that time? I find very hard not to sleep at all after a day laying down
 
I shifted my expectation of being recovered in 9 months to a full year.
I can't go on without any expectation of recovery. ..
This "bar" gives me motivation and something to start living up to.

I guess a year is reasonable.
Reasonable to function well enough to do a job and to study.
1.5 year for a fully recovery.
that's what I hope for now.
 
Ketamania said:
Depends how severe and common the psychosis is imho.

Mine aren’t bad, and very rare. Of course they are very unpleasant when they do happen, but I have been able to cope.

However schizophrenia for example, worsens as you age to my understanding. So even though it may not be worth it now, you may want to be open to the option in the distant future.

I also just wanna say that I believe anti psychotics get a very bad rap. Yes, they can dull your emotions and have bad side affects, but I believe it’s a very long process of finding the right one and right dose.

I had tried everything and thought nothing was going to work well for me. Then I tried a newer generation anti psychotic, Vraylar, and it blew my mind. No side effects, I could feel “alive”, I wasn’t gaining weight, etc.

However, my Dr slowly upped my dose to the max and it did turn out to be too much, so we went back down and it’s perfect.

However, it may also be worth considering medication *before* your condition worsens. For example, you don’t wanna be alright one moment, and then have the worst psychosis of you life the next landing you in a facility. Prevention.

It is your choice though :)
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t_xeplionhell said:
They usually cause sleep issues. Btw are you sure that u recovered fully.
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Yeah i fully recovered 3 times. I was working wiorking out being social. Had lots of energy. It was good. But then i got put back on meds cause i got psychosis again. Its been a vicious cycle.on and off meds. This has been happening to me since the first invega thread.
 
I would not like to judge badly but it seems that the only ones who are really bad are me and nina. because many are sick but few stay 1 year in bed or are addicted to sleeping pills
 
I also have to rely on delorazepam to sleep. Have only been 48 days off Invega though so I don't know my reference levels .
I seriously hope that adding a benzo for sleeping doesn't affect my recovery time
 
Gdvffh said:
Yeah i fully recovered 3 times. I was working wiorking out being social. Had lots of energy. It was good. But then i got put back on meds cause i got psychosis again. Its been a vicious cycle.on and off meds. This has been happening to me since the first invega thread.
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I am working out and being social, and still severe anhedonia so I dont consider that recovered. + I still have severe-moderate chest pains which also disturb sleep.
 
semperaltius4r said:
I shifted my expectation of being recovered in 9 months to a full year.
I can't go on without any expectation of recovery. ..
This "bar" gives me motivation and something to start living up to.

I guess a year is reasonable.
Reasonable to function well enough to do a job and to study.
1.5 year for a fully recovery.
that's what I hope for now.
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Well it depends, you might be functional enough to do a job and to study at 1.5 year off.
 
Nina2021 said:
Were you taking Somnífers during that time? I find very hard not to sleep at all after a day laying down
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I'm not taking Somnifers. Today I slept only around 1h-2h and was in bed trying to sleep for 7h without sleeping, its extremely hard.
 
Invega issue is enough and now I got 3+ another issues from injury which are very annoying and makes insomnia much worse, and probably those issues will go away after 2-6 months. It is hell and I have no hope anymore. How I'm going to endure sleeping 1-2h for 2-6 months, that will also slow down recovery.
 
in this support group it seems that there is no talk about the fact that some people will not heal. often I hear that people heal after about a year but I do not know the administrators of this group who are always full of hope But they have tried invega ??. Because they almost look like psychiatrists by the way they behave and it seems they don't want to talk about the fact that some people don't heal there is evidence that every user of this forum Maybe people 3 4 5 years ago have all recovered some administrators advocate or approve antipsychotics this group should not advocate these drugs because they have ruined lives
 
the creator of this group was Narshe81 or 84 I don't remember. he didn't recover. who are these administrators? I repeat are healed from invega? why don't they tell their stories? . because it seems that they have not tried these drugs. I heard that 100% people recover. I'm starting to not believe it. therefore it seems more reasonable to say that: some do not feel xeplion others are bad, still others very badly. some recover in 8 months some 1 year some 2 years ... but also who after 7 years has not recovered by only 2 injections? and it seems that nobody wants to talk about this. but to speak only of healings
 
il creatore di questo gruppo era Narshe81 o 84 non ricordo. non si è ripreso. chi sono questi amministratori? Ripeto sono guariti da invega? perché non raccontano le loro storie? . perché sembra che non abbiano provato questi farmaci. Ho sentito che il 100% delle persone guarisce. Comincio a non crederci. quindi mi sembra più ragionevole dire che: alcuni non si sentono xeplion altri sono cattivi, altri ancora molto male. alcuni guariscono in 8 mesi alcuni 1 anno alcuni 2 anni ... ma anche chi dopo 7 anni non si è ripreso con sole 2 iniezioni? e sembra che nessuno ne voglia parlare. ma parlare solo di guarigioni
 
MatteM92 said:
the creator of this group was Narshe81 or 84 I don't remember. he didn't recover. who are these administrators? I repeat are healed from invega? why don't they tell their stories? . because it seems that they have not tried these drugs. I heard that 100% people recover. I'm starting to not believe it. therefore it seems more reasonable to say that: some do not feel xeplion others are bad, still others very badly. some recover in 8 months some 1 year some 2 years ... but also who after 7 years has not recovered by only 2 injections? and it seems that nobody wants to talk about this. but to speak only of healings
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I understand your concerns about us staff members, and I will answer your questions, but I can only speak for myself. The other staff members will need to answer for themselves.

No I have never had invega. I have never had a true psychosis that needed medical attention. But I do have mental illness. I have been a patient in psych wards, and I have been on many different antidepressants. I am currently on 1 antidepressant and 1 mood stabilizer medication, and I am mentally stable now.

I have tried 1 antipsychotic medication before (quetiapine) and I did not have any problems with it. I found it quite helpful for me at the time.

I do not believe that 100% of people recover from invega because I have not seen enough evidence to be able to say this yet. I am constantly learning and shaping my opinion on invega by reading people's experiences in this thread. But I think that invega is a horrible drug, and I truly feel sad for so many people who suffer after having it.

However I believe that antipsychotics in general have their place. Sometimes they are necessary. Sometimes they are not. I think psychiatric medications IN GENERAL are massively overprescribed these days, but they are still warranted in many cases.

I feel that my job as moderator of the Mental Health forum and therefore of this thread, is to not only oversee the discussion for anyone breaking the rules of the forum, but also to be diplomatic, provide information, and sometimes to play the devil's advocate and offer opposing ideas in discussion. I also feel an important part of my job here is to listen and be sympathetic with people who need support.

Please keep in mind that all of us staff members here at Bluelight are simply volunteers, just regular people like you, who offer their time to help manage the forum :)

I'm always happy to answer any questions you may have.
 
MatteM92 said:
in this support group it seems that there is no talk about the fact that some people will not heal. often I hear that people heal after about a year but I do not know the administrators of this group who are always full of hope But they have tried invega ??. Because they almost look like psychiatrists by the way they behave and it seems they don't want to talk about the fact that some people don't heal there is evidence that every user of this forum Maybe people 3 4 5 years ago have all recovered some administrators advocate or approve antipsychotics this group should not advocate these drugs because they have ruined lives
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People who take any antipsyhotitcs during recovering tend to have issues recovering from invega.
 
n3ophy7e said:
I understand your concerns about us staff members, and I will answer your questions, but I can only speak for myself. The other staff members will need to answer for themselves.

No I have never had invega. I have never had a true psychosis that needed medical attention. But I do have mental illness. I have been a patient in psych wards, and I have been on many different antidepressants. I am currently on 1 antidepressant and 1 mood stabilizer medication, and I am mentally stable now.

I have tried 1 antipsychotic medication before (quetiapine) and I did not have any problems with it. I found it quite helpful for me at the time.

Non credo che il 100% delle persone si riprenda da invega perché non ho ancora visto prove sufficienti per poterlo dire. Sto costantemente imparando e plasmando la mia opinione su invega leggendo le esperienze delle persone in questo thread. Ma penso che l'invega sia una droga orribile e mi sento davvero triste per così tante persone che soffrono dopo averla.

Comunque credo che gli antipsicotici in generale abbiano il loro posto. A volte sono necessari. A volte non lo sono. Penso che i farmaci psichiatrici IN GENERALE siano ampiamente prescritti in questi giorni, ma in molti casi sono ancora garantiti.

Sento che il mio lavoro come moderatore del forum sulla salute mentale e quindi di questo thread, non è solo quello di supervisionare la discussione per chiunque infranga le regole del forum, ma anche di essere diplomatico, fornire informazioni e talvolta fare l'avvocato del diavolo e offrire idee opposte nella discussione. Sento anche che una parte importante del mio lavoro qui è ascoltare ed essere comprensivo con le persone che hanno bisogno di sostegno.

Tieni presente che tutti i membri dello staff qui a Bluelight sono semplicemente volontari, solo persone normali come te, che offrono il loro tempo per aiutare a gestire il forum:)

Sono sempre felice di rispondere a qualsiasi domanda tu possa avere.
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ma non avevo psicosi. L'ho già ripetuto
 
why some do not recover? brain damage? then we are doomed to suicide. since the invalidity does not damage it because it is not recognized. do you know if users of this forum have committed suicide?
 
MatteM92 said:
why some do not recover? brain damage? then we are doomed to suicide. since the invalidity does not damage it because it is not recognized. do you know if users of this forum have committed suicide?
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I know that 3 invega (injectable) users commit suicide successfully but they are from another forum, thats all that I know, there are many more cases for sure I think. Two on this forum tried suicide and failed, but evenntualy recovered from invega.
 
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