Mental Health Coming off Invega (paliperidone) injections, v 5.0

[Nina2021]

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One thing I've noticed from your posts is that you lay in bed all day and can't sleep at night. I know when I was severely depressed I would lay in bed all day. I discovered that even if I was awake, my body was still in a resting state and I would also have trouble sleeping at night for a couple of reasons. One reason was that laying in bed all day made my lower back sore so by the time night came around, my body was aching and I couldn't sleep. The other thing was that I think since I wasn't using any energy during the day, what little energy I had would be built up and it would cause me not to be sleepy at night either.

I don't know if your case is the same but I found when I literally forced myself to get out of bed and even if it was walking in circles around my bedroom, at least I was doing something other than laying there all day. I didn't even really consider it exercise because I prolly wasn't burning that many calories. But at least I was giving my back a chance to stretch out a bit and was expending a little energy, no matter how minimal it was.

I am not trying to minimize your problems, just trying to put them into the context of when I had anhedonia after Risperidone injections. It sounds like many of the people who have recovered from Invega injections have said it was not easy. I would venture even further and say it takes discipline and literally forcing yourself to do something you don't want or even don't think you can do. Baby steps worked for me. Even if it was just walking around my bedroom for 5 minutes a day for a week. Then 5 minutes twice a day for another week or so. Rinse and repeat.

It is not the energy consumption my sleep problem. It is truly a serious problem. I decided to try to stay without sleeping pills a couple of nights. Now I have been 65h awake and I have no sign of sleepiness at all I am fully awake. Xeplion really damaged my sleep. I don't know how recovery would ever be possible. If anybody has ever recovered sleep after fully, 0 hours, sleep, it would give me some hope. I am very suicidal because of this

 

[Nina2021]

There is no solution for it. I had the same problem. I could not sleep until I got off invega.

If you don't notice a difference between recover and being on invega, you were not on invega.

I got off invenga 6 months ago. I feel no sign of recovery. It made no difference being with or without invenga for my sleep . I am truly desperate.

 

[Kaatrina]

I got off invenga 6 months ago. I feel no sign of recovery. It made no difference being with or without invenga for my sleep . I am truly desperate.

Do you take sleeping pills? I had suffered 0 hours sleep but I recovered some sleep after about two months though I could not nap for a long time

 

[Nina2021]

Do you take sleeping pills? I had suffered 0 hours sleep but I recovered some sleep after about two months though I could not nap for a long time

I am taking again sleeping pills again after 74h awake. How long did you spend not sleeping at all? I get anxiety attacks during the night

 

[MatteM92]

Sto prendendo di nuovo i sonniferi dopo 74 ore di veglia. Quanto tempo hai passato a non dormire affatto? Ho attacchi di ansia durante la notte

70 hours ?? take the sleeping pills .. you can't unplug them right away .. you have to decrease them

 

[t_xeplionhell]

Yeah so ive recovered from antipsychotics 3 times and its hard to say if exercising and stuff helps with recovering or its simply time. When im recovered i dont even really notice that i recovered. I just kinda start doing more things and not really having a problem with it. The last time i recovered i was forcing myself to do exercises at home because i was annoyed at how fat i had gotten. I would do a 35 pound Dumbell workout then rest for 10 mins. Then do another dumbell workout then play computer for 10 mins. I was doing this for hours at a day. Then one day i noticed i recovered. Unfortunately i was hearing voices almost immediately after recovering and got put in a mental hospital around a month after recovering. That time i got put in a mental hospital my doctor decided to put me on a CTO. So my recovery was short lived. I think i was recovered from the meds like 2 months before feeling like shit again. Normally after recovering im not on meds again for at least a year. But this time it was literally a month or 2. Thats why i think if your being forced to take these meds from family you really need to move out of your parents place so you dont get out on meds again. The catch 22 however is that when your on meds you dont really have any energy so its hard to move out ans live on your own when your in this state that qe have when were on antipsychotic meds.

So from what I understand you are not sure if you ever fully recovered, you just assume that you fully recovered, sad.

 

[Nina2021]

70 hours ?? take the sleeping pills .. you can't unplug them right away .. you have to decrease them

I tried to decrease them but didn't work. Either I take the 4 or I don't sleep. I finally took the sleeping pills after 70h

 

[Nina2021]

So from what I understand you are not sure if you ever fully recovered, you just assume that you fully recovered, sad.

More sad is to think that you will never recover and that you have to kill yourself. I am really desperate after 6 months no sleep and increasing anxiety during the day

 

[apsucks]

Do people think that sleeping pills slow down recovery?

No

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

No

It might depend. There are lots of different sleep medication types. For example, there is rozeram, doxepin, trazodone, Seroquel, and zolpidem all with very different mechanisms.

 

[Nina2021]

It might depend. There are lots of different sleep medication types. For example, there is rozeram, doxepin, trazodone, Seroquel, and zolpidem all with very different mechanisms.

There is any that's known not to slow down recovery? They give me 2 1mg lorazepam 2mg lormetazepan 192mg Clometiazol . With this I sleep 3-4hours. Should I ask for something stronger? I am very bad and very confused with all this.

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

There is any that's known not to slow down recovery? They give me 2 1mg lorazepam 2mg lormetazepan 192mg Clometiazol . With this I sleep 3-4hours. Should I ask for something stronger? I am very bad and very confused with all this.

Seems strange or interesting to me that they give you two benzos; maybe you can ask them why. Otherwise, I tend to think that your doctor knows what they're doing for the most part. Still, that's not much sleep at all. There also might be something else going on, like depression. All good things to bring up, I would guess.

 

[Missyy]

Hey everyone, I started reading this thread a few years ago from v.1 to v.3 & start of v.4. I’ve never made a post but I want to say thanks to everyone who’s shared their experience, research and advice. I’m probably going to have to reread alot because I’ve forgotten & lost snapshots I took of the advice that I thought was worth a try to detox this poison from my body. From what I can remember St John’s Wort, exercise, healthy eating & green tea. If there’s something else someone would like to advise to help me get back to normal I’d appreciate that too but I feel that taking too many supplements at once probably won’t be healthy. I have hope that I’ll recover mostly thanks to you people on hereYou have no idea what a difference it has made in my life being able to understand myself and relate to others.

Anyway, thank you all again.

 

[Nina2021]

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Seems strange or interesting to me that they give you two benzos; maybe you can ask them why. Otherwise, I tend to think that your doctor knows what they're doing for the most part. Still, that's not much sleep at all. There also might be something else going on, like depression. All good things to bring up, I would guess.

I don't have depression. I had excellent sleep till the shots. I tried to convince my shrink to change medication but she said xeplion was good and just placed it from 100 to 75. In my experience they don't know what they are doing at all they have completely destroyed me and for them it can't be good xeplion. I am really at border of suicide

How can be good psychiatrists that are destroying a person by giving a xeplion intolerant person, xeplion? I told them so many times. But they did not listen

 

[t_xeplionhell]

Hey everyone, I started reading this thread a few years ago from v.1 to v.3 & start of v.4. I’ve never made a post but I want to say thanks to everyone who’s shared their experience, research and advice. I’m probably going to have to reread alot because I’ve forgotten & lost snapshots I took of the advice that I thought was worth a try to detox this poison from my body. From what I can remember St John’s Wort, exercise, healthy eating & green tea. If there’s something else someone would like to advise to help me get back to normal I’d appreciate that too but I feel that taking too many supplements at once probably won’t be healthy. I have hope that I’ll recover mostly thanks to you people on hereYou have no idea what a difference it has made in my life being able to understand myself and relate to others.

Anyway, thank you all again.

Depends on supplements you take, I take a lot for long time and have no issues.

 

[washingtonbound]

I have experience dealing with the horrible effects of getting shot with this medicine twice. Both times I received the month long injection, god knows what the 3 month one would be like. Anyway, the first time I had it was after I’d gone manic during a drug binge in Colombia. My parents took me to Miami and I was put in a psych ward there. The doctor was a fucking asshole and the experience was among the worst I’ve had. I was discharged after getting shot with it and they had me on some other mood stabilizer besides that in pill form. Truly a nightmare. Anyway, for the next 7 weeks or so I was extremely restless; couldn’t sit still for anything and had slurred speech that was noticeable to other people. It was 7 weeks of hell. To make matters worse it has a terribly long half life so it’s still in your system for a while after that. But things were worse the second time I had it (not sure why, maybe had a higher dosage), and I swear it was nearly five months before I felt normal again. Stay out of the hospital and take whatever you have to in pill form to avoid it.

 

[Afernandes1]

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I don't have depression. I had excellent sleep till the shots. I tried to convince my shrink to change medication but she said xeplion was good and just placed it from 100 to 75. In my experience they don't know what they are doing at all they have completely destroyed me and for them it can't be good xeplion. I am really at border of suicide

How can be good psychiatrists that are destroying a person by giving a xeplion intolerant person, xeplion? I told them so many times. But they did not listen

Have you tried zzzquil?
I have some trouble sleeping too and this usually works. 50mg or 2 pills should make you drowsy in half an hour.

 

[Afernandes1]

yes but I eat little. it just altered the physique

Honestly, it’s not how much you eat but what you eat that matters.
Try switching to a protein diet. I have lost weight in the past by eating only protein rich foods. Invega causes glucose intolerance and stores all sugar and carbs as fat. So a protein diet would be the safest bet.
Also consider including some fasting days in between. Intermittent fasting may be helpful but short term water fasting of 3-7 days of drinking purely water does wonders for the body and mind.

 

[Missyy]

Also, how to deal with the trauma to my poor bum? No one’s mentioned that here… has no one had any trouble feeling like they’re butts not the same? I was lied to saying I was too skinny to get it in the arm. Have received (no exaggeration) probably about 60 shots. including tranquillisers tho) Or am I just a pussy, I have a needle phobia too so maybe I’m just traumatised from it. Please accept me just rocking up. Bit about me ~ Invega Trina’s for 1 ur n half. Abilify for few months. Few years ago Invega Sustenna for a few months I forget exactly

 

[Missyy]

Depends on supplements you take, I take a lot for long time and have no issues.

Do you take supplements to detox from Invega specifically? What ones n why