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Why are some dealers unfathomably stupid?

Eligiu

Eligiu

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Like this new guy I source from, the guy sticks pictures of his damn face on his meth advertisements. Talk about fucking your plausible deniability.

And the first time I bought off him, he put 3 points in 3 seperate tiny bags when I hadn't requested he do so.

He just blatantly does deals in brought fucking daylight, it's unnerving.

Give me my strict OPSEC guys anyday.

I mean I had my fun with him because it turns out he's ridiculous born again super-christian who renounced his 'gay lifestyle' and I decided to fuck with him a bit by telling him I'm a trans man because I pass completely as cisgender and he asked for Panadol due to getting a headache as he 'could not figure out how Satan was able to decieve me so early into the illusion I now believe' and I'm like bro do you realise how cooked you sound right now.

He cannot figure out what to think about me and that suits me just fine. Pulled the old 'oh I knew you were gay/bi/something when I got in the car's no you fucking did not I'm straight passing. Even the hells angels guy I buy off is more tolerant than you. Give me my meth and begone.
 
I used to have a dealer who created this list of all his customers and would send out weekly texts to the entire group advertising his drugs. There were a few dozen people in this group.

"New weed in, it's fire. Coke for x $, Addies $ each" etc

It was ridiculously bad opsec... Basically writing down everything for the phone company or cops to see unencrypted. In fact I ended up moving to a different state, got a new phone number but totally forgot to tell him to remove my old number from the list.... Whoever gets that number next is going to have a nice surprise... Hope it's not some snitch or a cop...


Had this other dealer who sold Xanax out of his apartment. He would invite like 3 people up at a time, all while he was benzoed out of his mind. Constant people going in and out of his apartment. Constant noise and commotion. It was ridiculous. He was arrested within a month.
 
Eligiu said:
Like this new guy I source from, the guy sticks pictures of his damn face on his meth advertisements. Talk about fucking your plausible deniability.

And the first time I bought off him, he put 3 points in 3 seperate tiny bags when I hadn't requested he do so.

He just blatantly does deals in brought fucking daylight, it's unnerving.

Give me my strict OPSEC guys anyday.

I mean I had my fun with him because it turns out he's ridiculous born again super-christian who renounced his 'gay lifestyle' and I decided to fuck with him a bit by telling him I'm a trans man because I pass completely as cisgender and he asked for Panadol due to getting a headache as he 'could not figure out how Satan was able to decieve me so early into the illusion I now believe' and I'm like bro do you realise how cooked you sound right now.

He cannot figure out what to think about me and that suits me just fine. Pulled the old 'oh I knew you were gay/bi/something when I got in the car's no you fucking did not I'm straight passing. Even the hells angels guy I buy off is more tolerant than you. Give me my meth and begone.
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That guy is begging to be arrested apparently. Hahaha I fkn laughed my ass off when u said he puts his face on his ADS. Now that's next level stupidity XDDDD 🙄 🤣
 
nznity said:
That guy is begging to be arrested apparently. Hahaha I fkn laughed my ass off when u said he puts his face on his ADS. Now that's next level stupidity XDDDD 🙄 🤣
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I asked him about it and this guy deadset is like 'i can't be arrested i am connected up top' and I'm like Jesus Christ I've ended up with a loop. Sells me a bag of meth saying it's an 8/10 and it's barely a 5/10 I'm fucking pissed as cause I've had better from the guy who sells it for a bit less per point and fuck it I'll drive the extra 15-20 minutes for cheaper, better drugs.

The fucker actually CALLED me bro. Like CALLED me and is like 'you want some stuff' and I go 'stuff? What stuff dude just say meth no one is tapping your phone call'
 
Being stupid and or retarded is a prerequisite for street dealers. That's why they always end up dead or in prison when their bosses go free.

That's life innit?

I've never yet met a hard drugs dealer that I thought was "an intelligent bloke".


They are all fuckin scum.
 
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Negentropic said:
I used to have a dealer who created this list of all his customers and would send out weekly texts to the entire group advertising his drugs. There were a few dozen people in this group.

"New weed in, it's fire. Coke for x $, Addies $ each" etc

It was ridiculously bad opsec... Basically writing down everything for the phone company or cops to see unencrypted. In fact I ended up moving to a different state, got a new phone number but totally forgot to tell him to remove my old number from the list.... Whoever gets that number next is going to have a nice surprise... Hope it's not some snitch or a cop...


Had this other dealer who sold Xanax out of his apartment. He would invite like 3 people up at a time, all while he was benzoed out of his mind. Constant people going in and out of his apartment. Constant noise and commotion. It was ridiculous. He was arrested within a month.
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The amount of times I've warned folk about txts 🤦🏻‍♂️ Had a mate who sold H & he got caught with 2 half gram bags. Cops went thru his fone & instead of prob just a fine for a grm of heroin he hot jailed for supplying between 'X' date & 'Y' date
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Being stupid and or retarded is a prerequisite for street dealers. That's why they always end up dead or in prison when their bosses go free.

That's life innit?

I've never yet met a hard drugs dealer that I thought was "an intelligent bloke".


They are all fuckin scum.
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Idk I got one guy who is a smart dude, good OPSEC and he is switched on. He also is absurdly good with his memory and recalled my law degree after 3 years having not bought anything off of him. It was eerie and I was like 'dude how do you remember that' and he's like 'its not every day as a meth dealer I get a very intelligent young man studying law who buys half a gram of meth off me once a week to shoot up while still passing all his courses is it. Did you graduate?'

And I frowned and was like 'yes, I did'

'fantastic, I'm proud of you'

'please, I don't like being friendly with my dealers. It makes my habit worse'

'see Eli, it's comments like that which make you my smartest customer'

'im leaving now, thanks for the meth'

And he has been uncaught and not even close to getting snagged for close to a decade man. He doesn't use himself, he brings a little helper monkey who shoots a point then smokes a point and tells him whether it's good.

This dude even has a bunch of customers legitimately believing he sells the only uncut gear in my city, for twice the cost. I tried it once cause if it was worth it I'd cop the cost. It was not. But he's somehow doing it.

Smart dealers exist. He runs a tight ship and never turns up a minute after he says he will. That itself is almost enough for me to want to buy off him. I cannot fucking stand waiting around.
 
I think you said this somewhere else at some point in the past, but I may have dreamed it, so I'll just ask:
—Is it true that a "point" weighs not 'point-one' but 'point–zero-five' grams — i.e., 50mg — in the Australian system of weights & measures?—​
 
JTemperance said:
I think you said this somewhere else at some point in the past, but I may have dreamed it, so I'll just ask:
—Is it true that a "point" weighs not 'point-one' but 'point–zero-five' grams — i.e., 50mg — in the Australian system of weights & measures?—​
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A point, despite me not being able to get this right after seven years of using is indeed 0.100, not 0.050.
 
I think drug fiends who still do person-to-person deals are the most stupid. Let your postman do the hard hards for you.
 

"Why are some dealers unfathomably stupid?"​


Because some *people* are unfathomably stupid 😊 Well.. Quite a few..


F.U.B.A.R. said:
Being stupid and or retarded is a prerequisite for street dealers. That's why they always end up dead or in prison when their bosses go free.

That's life innit?

I've never yet met a hard drugs dealer that I thought was "an intelligent bloke".


They are all fuckin scum.
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I've got this new (meth) dealer who's great. He's more efficient and reliable than most *people*. And he doesn't make small talk! Compared to the last one (female) this guy is like a dream.

I don't know if it's necessarily a good thing though.. I've given up cold turkey for months, a couple of times because she pissed me off that much.
 
Christ on a bike he got dumber.

I bought off him a second time cause his product was acceptable last time for the price. His location was 5 min closer than my backup and my dumb autistic brain reads 15 min as substantially closer than 20 for some silly reason so I'm like 'yes the extra $20 makes up for the extra 5min drive' which is... Not true.

He sort of fucked around with the time and wasn't organised. During that time I came literally seconds away from ditching the deal and going to the other guy and grabbing an extra point for the same price. So damn close. But that fucking extra 5 minutes puts me off since I hate driving so much. I go to the more expensive dude.

Driving him back to the city we have a chat. He states he's in business with certain organised crime and I think we'll that bodes well for quality. Then he says he doesn't know exactly what my bag is like since he just used from the last reload but he made a firm statement that he never gets worse than a 7/10.

I'm like alright. We will see. Your last bag was decent so I'm not Inclined to disagree from the outset but I'll get the proof the second I do my shot wont I. I make it clear to him that I'm looking for a new main dealer and I only care about a convenient location, a fair price, and good quality for what I pay for and I'll be a regular good customer who picks up a certain amount almost every week cash upfront no fuss. A massive win for him. But my big caveat? Do not fucking lie to me about the quality. I know good meth when I get it and nothing shits me more than being told a batch is killer and it's fucking mediocre. The reason the other guy is my backup is he replaced a dud batch after he promised it would be great or money back, and I got him to swear not to talk up the product and just admit it's average to good. We agreed and it's good business.

Change of plans for my new dealer pal and it's no train stop. He gets the tram home. 15 min stroll from my apartment. He asks to smoke a pipe at mind and I allow it and he says he'd like to get to know me more. I'm fine.

We get in and I inform him we have the same name and that shocks him. I then decide to fuck with him a bit and disclose that I'm trans after learning he is super born again because I pass as cisgender (male) 100% and I knew it would fuck with his brain. He is stunned. 'but you totally look like a guy' 'yes well see I am one' and he goes 'no I could tell when you got in the car that you were gay or bi or a trans' and I was like 'nah man don't even pull that, everyone thinks I'm straight as an arrow when I'm not so you didn't pick that, nor bisexual, and everyone assumes, like you literally just did when you had to ask which gender I was assigned at birth because you cannot tell since I pass so well, that I am actually a trans woman because I cannot be so convincingly male. So don't give me that nonsense to try and stop your brain from exploding. It may give you comfort but it's not true and you shouldn't be dishonest.

And he just stared at me. He then starts asking about when I knew and I told him the first obvious signs were by 3 years old. He is flabbergasted because he can't believe 'the devil was able to decieve me and form a mirage for me to believe this lie' so I said 'well look that's your belief but how does me living like this impact you? It doesn't. So while you're under my roof and I am showing you hospitality I would firmly suggest refraining from stating that me living as the man I clearly am is a delusion.

He fucking deadset asked me for Panadol and a glass of water because me telling him this gave him a fucking headache as he doesn't understand.

When he eventually left he said he'd like to stay in touch he said 'you seem like a cool guy. Well guy? I don't know' and I stared and said 'let me remind you that I look completely male. I'd also suggest referring to me as male and not letting your view on this impede reality as if you refer to me as anything but male in public people won't be questioning my gender, they'll be asking if you are having a stroke.

He just nodded.

I had used the meth while he was there earlier and it was atrocious. No rush to speak of and all legs. For an IV user a complete waste of my money. So I told him as much, just like I gave him the feedback about the seperate bags.

He eventually got back to me and was very disbelieving. He made a bunch of comments and even said 'i saw your face when you did it and you liked it'

So he we eventually agree when I tell him if he doesn't believe me he's welcome to shoot it and find out for himself, but I'll probably just take my business back to the other dude. Then we get progress. He'll get the old stuff next time.

I get a text today saying it's in. I'm not using for a week now so it's irrelevant but I see that again, like last time, he's saying 'best you can buy only cut once best cook best product or money back guarantee' and I'm using my law degree argument skills and my autistic ass pedanticness and taking him to court.

I give him a fucking fundamental lesson on customer service and explain I went to the other guy and got 4p and it blew both batches I've got from him out of the water. Zero comparison. This dude also replaced shit so he actually follows through. The 5 min extra drive suddenly isn't that far. I point out I've got zero reason to believe that this next batch is any better. If my other guy was a 7/10 the last was a 2/10 it was that shit. And I'm not spending another wad of cash without assurance that I'll get my cash back if it's another dud. I'm not dumb.

I called him out on seeing my face 'dude when I did the shot I was sitting facing 180 degrees away from you since I always face that way for the extra light. You could not see my face. And if you did, it was a look of sheer fucking disappointment because I almost got good gear but I gave you a shot instead and got crap for more money.

And then I explain that if he wants me to stick around I'm getting my cash back or I consider him a flat out liar. He needs to deliver or stop saying he will. I dont care much which but I'm not suggesting his service to anyone if the second someone attempts to raise poor quality he waves them aside with an excuse saying he could see their response.

I tell him that as someone whose almost been shooting a decade and can hit 90% of the time every time compared to his 3 hits in 1.5 years and incredible ability to miss every other shot that my opinion on the quality of IV'd gear between us is the final matter. He doesn't get an opinion when he cannot even do a shot more than 3 times in 12 months. Not least tell me I'm wrong.

He replies. What the fuck does this dumb as fuck brick say? 'please bro can I have your cheaper source my guys gear has been falling in quality I want to feel what you got from it please man it'll be Sweet's

So NOW the gear IS fucking shit huh? Only because you think I'm handing my good source out left right and centre.

My response: sorry I'm just curious. Seems like this deal is a bit one sided, objectively speaking. I'm not strictly opposed to it but I'm wondering where my interests come in. Because from my angle it looks like I hand over the details of my source and you still dont replace the gear or pay me back, correct? I'm wondering why you think I'd agree to that deal, because it's not particularly appealing to me to be honest.

Like sorry this is long but I'm fucking stunned. I've never encountered such comical behaviour.
 
Testing unknown quality meth by injecting it is about as foolish as it gets and suggests many drug users at least as dumb as many drug dealers.

Injecting ‘7/10’ quality meth is also not worth it. If you can’t get 10/10 A+ gear (which you can’t ever get buying anything less than an ounce) then FFS wash it at least. Then instead of a gram of 7/10 you’ll end up with maybe .7 or .8 of 9/10 stuff that’s worth the drama of injecting.
 
Atomic_Decay said:
Testing unknown quality meth by injecting it is about as foolish as it gets and suggests many drug users at least as dumb as many drug dealers.

Injecting ‘7/10’ quality meth is also not worth it. If you can’t get 10/10 A+ gear (which you can’t ever get buying anything less than an ounce) then FFS wash it at least. Then instead of a gram of 7/10 you’ll end up with maybe .7 or .8 of 9/10 stuff that’s worth the drama of injecting.
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This stuff is all very good advice but before you call me stupid consider that my reason for injecting drugs is that it specifically serves as a very aggressive form of self punishment - I sought out needles the day I left home and I was set to do it and demanded a person I knew teach me. And I did it because I wanted to fuck my life up as fast as I could and didn't think I deserved better.

Do you actually think I really totally care about that minor difference between a 7/10 and a 10/10? Like I'm not even entirely interested in the meth. I have ADHD and I'm on anti psychotic meds the effect is sort of underwhelming. It's the harm from injecting I gravitate to, the feeling is a lucky bonus.

I won't do those things as I'm decidedly set on causing the most amount of harm at highest risk without being an issue relating to blood borne infections or skin lesions.

Not the most common behaviour but I'd wager it's common enough in drug users, should they choose to dig deep into their psyche
 
Eligiu said:
This stuff is all very good advice but before you call me stupid consider that my reason for injecting drugs is that it specifically serves as a very aggressive form of self punishment - I sought out needles the day I left home and I was set to do it and demanded a person I knew teach me. And I did it because I wanted to fuck my life up as fast as I could and didn't think I deserved better.

Do you actually think I really totally care about that minor difference between a 7/10 and a 10/10? Like I'm not even entirely interested in the meth. I have ADHD and I'm on anti psychotic meds the effect is sort of underwhelming. It's the harm from injecting I gravitate to, the feeling is a lucky bonus.

I won't do those things as I'm decidedly set on causing the most amount of harm at highest risk without being an issue relating to blood borne infections or skin lesions.

Not the most common behaviour but I'd wager it's common enough in drug users, should they choose to dig deep into their psyche
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Thanks for so clearly demonstrating the importance of the online peer-based harm reduction provided by Bluelight.

People can come here and talk about the most “stupid”, most ignorant, most dangerous, or most self-destructive use of drugs and others will kindly point out why what they do is problematic and alternatives that will be safer.

I wouldn’t normally use the word stupid towards any member here but that was the title of the thread so I stuck with the theme.

But note I didn’t actually call you stupid. I said the behaviour you described, which is all too common amongst IV meth users was stupid. People’s sometimes foolish behaviour should not define them.
 
jasperkent said:
As George Carlin once said (I'm paraphrasing):

Consider the intelligence of the average person. Now consider that half of the population is stupider than that.
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I love Carlin. He also said this. So combine the two and imagine being an intelligent woman (top 15% of all undergraduates that year at a top Melb uni). I think I'm allowed to be a bit crazy!!

 
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