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Mental Health Coming Off Vraylar (cariprazine), Rexulti (brexpiprazole), or Abilify (aripiprazole)

DeathIndustrial88 said:
No clue. Sounds kinda flaky.

It would probably dampen the adderall effects to a degree or change the entirety of the experience altogether.

To be totally honest, from my experience, being through a lot of psychological shit & put on many meds, is that, doctors have no idea what the hell they're doing half the time.

They will throw all kinds of combos of drugs at you and they have no idea how you will react to it and honestly most don't even take the time to look up all the side effects and reactions that can happen from combining certain meds. They just guess and see how you handle it. Some times they get kick backs. As in if they prescribe a certain drug (usually new, brand name ones), they will get an financial incentive. Reps for the drugs actually go around and try to get doctors to push their new drugs.

So basically, since vraylar is a new and expensive drug, your doctor probably pushed it onto you for the kickback, without caring how it might affect you, your adderall or your health.
A lot of these psychiatric drugs can cause long term issues, including tardive dyskenesia (unable to control body movements), cognitive issues, even sudden death.
But hey, your doctor prolly got a new car or boat, so it's all good.

I've had to correct doctors, teach doctors about drugs & even stop them from prescribing me things that would have reacted dangerously to things I was already on. It's ridiculous, And they get upset and think you're challenging their "education". And then you barely get a say in what you want to take. Hell I'd love to get on adderall for my depression, but no doctor will prolly help me there.
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Well. I mean I don’t wanna dissuade people from professional help. I’m in the same boat. That’s what was said to me given I wouldn’t take anything but adderall and clonazepam until finally I think there’s just the unspoken code of pay my bill say everything is fine and put some pills on paper to look like you’re not doping. Cma data shows extreme revenue for my doctor and vraylar. But equal to that of clonazepam. Generally when finding a new doctor. I don’t do anything but find one on cms that has the prescribing habits that fit me best. I learned that a long time ago.

I’m assuming given I get Medicare I could go cry and get on methadone or subs and save me from spending so much on full agonist like oxy, but ehh once you go down certain roads it’s hard to come back.

I was more quizzing to see if you found it flaky as welll. But 1500 for 60 pills. On top of 150 a month out of pocket just to get quality brands. Ehh

There’s no difference. But I do feel better knowing I’m not swallowing fentanyl so I play the chirade
 
AlphaMethylPhenyl said:
Stimulants tend to be very crude in actually producing a lasting antidepressant effect without perpetually raising the dosage. What may be mistaken for that effect would simply be the high that it gives at first.
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True. This can help people in the short term though who are severely depressed.

I've known some people who have been prescribed stimulants and opioids for years and take them just as prescribed and still seem to get their mood lift for the day.
But I understand what you're saying too. It takes discipline and a certain mindset to use drugs and leave them at your tolerance limits to feel your 'baseline'.
It's not always the best way to go about it, but for some people, it's better than living a life in pain & agony while depressed.
 
Today it was a very mixed Day. I was outside a lot. I slept not much, but enough to wake up at 12 pm. I went to sleep at 4 am that night, which indicates slight depression, which is a good sign of recovery.
I went for a run today. I ran 30 minutes and then i lost orientation. As i am new to this place i couldn't figure out how to get home, so i spent another 1,5 hours just walking and looking for my appartment.
Then i came home at 3:30 pm or so and ate my first meal. Then i went out again. Shopping. For food. First, this store, then that store. Man the Grocery strores here are unreal. There is nothing you can not find.
Polish Products, Soups, Sandwhiches everything... I bought some Cigarettes and came home after another 2 hours of shopping. Then i ate. And that was my Day.
I could not feel that much pleasure, but more than yesterday.
 
Master Green said:
Today it was a very mixed Day. I was outside a lot. I slept not much, but enough to wake up at 12 pm. I went to sleep at 4 am that night, which indicates slight depression, which is a good sign of recovery.
I went for a run today. I ran 30 minutes and then i lost orientation. As i am new to this place i couldn't figure out how to get home, so i spent another 1,5 hours just walking and looking for my appartment.
Then i came home at 3:30 pm or so and ate my first meal. Then i went out again. Shopping. For food. First, this store, then that store. Man the Grocery strores here are unreal. There is nothing you can not find.
Polish Products, Soups, Sandwhiches everything... I bought some Cigarettes and came home after another 2 hours of shopping. Then i ate. And that was my Day.
I could not feel that much pleasure, but more than yesterday.
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That's all really good to hear though! Keep it up <3
 
Today i was like eat all chocolate and snacks that you want. I am really loosing myself. I am currently in a constant battle of feeling pressured in my head and feeling normal. It is like this and that all time.
I gained a KG in the last few days. I am constantly eating. Looking for pleasure. Looking for dopamine. I am craving for the sweetness of life. I am depressed i think. I am not talking much during the day. I will be 32 years old on Sunday.
I feel pretty numb, and tired. I went to sleep very late in the last few days. I am doing the same things over and over again. Like going to bed at 5 am is like a highlight, cause it is something new.
The days are very repetitive. I stopped learning. If i don't shop or play video games i feel very restless. I cannot find any peace. But when i fast, i feel good.
I am so alone all the time. Can't tell the difference between a wave and not having one. I can feel that this shitty drug is leaving my System. And i am probably in the end stages. We will see. I feel so lonely.
By the way, are you guys able to feel anger when on Vraylar? It is like all my aggression has gone i am like a Monk now. I am also not able to be sad much or happy. Very weird.
 
My anger is coming back. I am more direct. More depressed. I like Martial Arts again, i think. When i see an attractive woman, something happens i feel not dead or anhedonia, but slowly somewhat good. I have alot of bad mood.
I get disappointed pretty quickly.
I have constant pressure in my head.
I am slowly ablr to feep pleasure again (after a long walk for example)
That is indeed a very dirty drug. Screw the medical stuff. All you need is fasting and a good vommunity, and definitely no 'medicine'. I am frustrated. I want it to end. All the time the ups and downs. Like i feep good then depressed then good. It is stupid. I am a slave of my hormonesi can feel by the way, that my hormones are turning back to normal. My skin indicates it. It is more thick and unclean. In the last few days a lot of things are happening to my body and i am stressed out physically.
I am tired a lot of the time..
 
Today i felt sadness and self pity for the first time since 3 Months. Finally that shit is leaving my body.
 
I got hit by a wave today. Stayed in bed nearly all Day. Then i ate a Thuna Salad.
Don't know what else to aim for.
 
Sorry to hear that! Anything that helps to reduce that? I find journaling to really help with my anger. Reading, meditating, and socializing too. Hope this helps!
 
AlphaMethylPhenyl said:
Sorry to hear that! Anything that helps to reduce that? I find journaling to really help with my anger. Reading, meditating, and socializing too. Hope this helps!
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I just wrote something down. It is good to some extent. Meditating is a good thing, but i am kinda scared now, because it reminds me of the days i used to meditate when i was "schizophrenic". I have no social cycle so only 1 friend i talk to sometimes, but that is just boring you know. But hey, thanks for trying to help me out. I appreciate that. Most of the time i feel like crap, and the other times i want want it to end.
I re-calculated the whole half life. So if am lucky and St. John's Wort is really inducing and accelerating i have like 9 Days left until i reach 5 half lifes. But if i leave that accelerated elimination out i still have 35 Days to go.
My experience tells me it is something between that. But my hopes are a fast recovery
 
iridescentblack said:
You're wrong about everything you said there; not to mention the hypocrisy of your post: you seem to be bragging about your potential recovery from Vraylar, stating you'll be recovered after 55 days and yet, you suggest that Invega Sustenna lasts in the system for more than 7 years. What the hell are you even saying?
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It's been 4 years for me I'll never be the same again I promise.

 
My brain is recovering. I am feeling very flat lateley. Like, very low energy It is a hormonal change for sure, that's why it causes much stress to the body. I am moody. I am able to feel pleasure. I can enjoy myself a bit here and there.
I have still have that feeling of throwing up sometimes, but weaker than normal.
I am eating good food, lots of salads and meat. No junk food. Junk food is a waste of money. It doesn't even taste natural.
Since i did a 18 Day fast food is not really that pleasing to me anymore, if it is not of higher quality.
I also noticed that i am not much thinking about Life on Vraylar. No deep emotions or thoughts. Now, that this poison is slowly leaving my body i can actually tell what is the difference.
I am also getting my intelligence back slowly.
My motivation is coming back as well. Very slowly.
 
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Today my uncle came here and we went outside for walking and then for dinner.
It was quite fine and i had many laughter. I am so used to speak not much that i had to readjust that when we met.
Sometimes i was feeling like my brain was just stuck in that drugged mode, like i couldn't get over myself and fully enjoy myself. He was acting kinda bipolar too at some point i have to say.
Anyway i am a few steps away from being normal. My body is doing many changes at the moment.
 
Sometimes my brain works normal, like i have a fluent line of thought and then all of a sudden my brain goes into blocking mode and i don't feel anything anymore. No thought's, no emotions, no desires, no depression, nothing. I just exist. Like the same 2,5 months on Vraylar. I just exist.
 
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