Wars, Invasions, & Imperialism Thread v. Ukraine & Russia

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So, what's the next step in the elites agenda....

Whilst everyone is watching Ukraine, no one is paying attention to domestic politics very much. In the UK we've just passed through the "police crime sentencing and courts bill" giving the police ridiculous powers over protest. You have politicians openly cheering on the protests in Russia against Putin whilst simultaneously voting (and re-amending this bill to re-insert stuff taken out by the Lords) whilst simultaneously voting to restrict the rights of British people to protest. Un-fucking believable hypocrisy.

A large scale cyber attack on national infrastructure wouldn't be amiss right now. Something like a modern day Gulf of Tonkin, where no one can really ascertain who did it but it leads to an increase in hostilities regardless.

 

[alasdairm]

The Ukrainians aren't black, sweetie......don't protest so.

lol.

equating nationalism with a country defending itself against an armed invasion for the purposes of cheap, political point-scoring is just lazy, divisive nonsense.

alasdair

 

[dalpat077]

Well, we're all still here and I'm learning to be grateful for the little things...(not the little things that kill as the band bush wrote)

Welll I can tell you this much: my little health incident and debacle has taught me one thing and that is just how insignificant a whole pile of things are. I mean let’s face it I been nursing and nurturing that Vladimir Vladomirovich thread of mine for going on two years now. And one would think I’d have come out there guns blazing (no pun intended)but actually I could not be arsed as it is all meaningless in the bigger scheme of things. What’s more important is to have some good friends and that actually give a fuck and, if you’re lucky a partner that also actually gives a fuck, and moral support from both. Shit like that means far more than simply posturing or being contrarian for the sake of it.or firing off missiles to fellow forum members and possibly hurting them in the process. and if not that certainly annoying them.

In truthI would far rather have it that Russia was not at war or in disagreement with anybody and everybody. and this coming from somebody who has been awed at video footage and reports and pics. Of her newest and latest and greatest machines of war and death and destruction and waiting with baited breath for something to kick off just to see the shit in action. Never thought I would see the day come when I was Russiad/Putined out/fatigued. And I am still not clear as to what the end game is of all of this. Even the massive global fallout of all of this has taken me by surprise if I am being totally honest. So Ukraine becomes part of Russia? and then (is what I would like to know i.e. end game). Of course I would like to think and believe that this had been carefully thought out and strategised and planned beforehand. Gotta give the Ukrainian people (civilians) their due though in taking an active stand upon being given the opportunity and tools required.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

Like I said before, just because the propaganda is in English doesn't make it anymore accurate.
You think I care that much about Russia? I mean, their women are smoking hot but that's about as much as I commend them.
I do care about the truth though. I just find it so bizarre that you believe the MSM lies after they've lied to you SO MANY TIMES OVER AND OVER AD NAUSEUM.
Who's stupid for continuing to believe someone after they've lied to you for the umpteenth time?

+ I only report people who, if I respond proportionally, I will get infracted for. I've been banned too many times already to take their bait and whenever I complain you know what the admins say? "Report problematic posts". So I do. Trust me I'd much rather not report their posts and simply respond how I normally would (but then people report me in order to shut me up). Unlike the West, I learn from my mistakes.


John Mearsheimer predicted this back in 2015. He said if Ukraine continue to capitulate to these dangerous games being played by the West, then Ukraine is going to get wrecked by Russia. It's not like any of this was a surprise (to the people who are honest and pay attention).

What the virtue-signallers refuse to accept though is that this is the West's fault. It's just impossible for them to fathom that Russia holds the moral high ground over their own countries. Too much bias.

Ok - i have some questions for you too, so im gonna be summoning you down to Krinkle's Pit so we don't go off track over here...i don't wanna fight with you - we were on the same team when it came to vaccines, so we're still kinda allies, even if you work for the Russians now

 

[Electrum1]

 

[JGrimez]

Hmm, you're now against state-sanctioned militias, a well-armed populace, people defending their homes and homeland with military-grade hardware, and all that?

The Ukrainians aren't black, sweetie......don't protest so.

I dont think you can edit all those posts, spanning years, that you've made in all those threads, in support just these things. It would be useless anyway, its all archived.

Are you now fake news? Get hacked? What's the story?

Lol.....

I never said that. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of people that have no values and just go along with what media tells them.

Ok - i have some questions for you too, so im gonna be summoning you down to Krinkle's Pit so we don't go off track over here...i don't wanna fight with you - we were on the same team when it came to vaccines, so we're still kinda allies, even if you work for the Russians now

It's because the MSM has been systematically demonizing Putin for well over a decade now.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

Many people who were based on Covid are retarded on Ukraine.
It's because the MSM has been systematically demonizing Putin for well over a decade now.

that's a little bit of why i think you get in hot water because you have a tendency to call people retarded, idiots, and stupid

now you know i read it all - left right main stream, fringe, alternative whatever you wanna call it - and then i make my own decision

but i already don't like Putin and Russia and they lie and hide things too and they have their own history, so they're already suspect in my eyes and always will be

 

[Xorkoth]

that's a little bit of why i think you get in hot water because you have a tendency to call people retarded, idiots, and stupid

now you know i read it all - left right main stream, fringe, alternative whatever you wanna call it - and then i make my own decision

but i already don't like Putin and Russia and they lie and hide things too and they have their own history, so they're already suspect in my eyes and always will be

Dude there is only one possible conclusion in a sea of misinformation from all sides, and if you're smart enough, you will always be able to tell 100% of the truth from the lies from the comfort of your own computer chair, every time. Didn't you know?

 

[JGrimez]

that's a little bit of why i think you get in hot water because you have a tendency to call people retarded, idiots, and stupid

now you know i read it all - left right main stream, fringe, alternative whatever you wanna call it - and then i make my own decision

but i already don't like Putin and Russia and they lie and hide things too and they have their own history, so they're already suspect in my eyes and always will be

Is there any reason that you don't like Russia that cannot be said for the country you reside in?

 

[JGrimez]

Pro-Russian mayor of city in eastern Ukraine who welcomed Putin’s invasion is found shot dead in the street after being kidnapped from his home

Gonzalo Lira:
"Vlodomyr Struk’s kidnapping and assassination was supposed to be a message to other town and regional politicians. That’s why his body was left out in public.
The word is, several dissidents have gone missing in Ukraine. They are likely dead and will probably never be found.
Because so many people are evacuating, nobody’s really noticing.
This all happened around Tuesday through Wednesday—though I’d presume it’s ongoing. Tuesday and Wednesday are probably when the bulk of these dissidents were rounded up. (Wednesday night was when they came looking for me.)
It looks like the Zelensky regime is carrying out its own version of the Night of the Long Knives."

 

[JGrimez]

The Ukrainian government holds that thousands of civilians have died.
They are brazenly lying. UN estimates that on March 1st, 136 Ukrainian civilians had died in the fighting.

At least 136 civilians killed in Ukraine since Russia launched war, says UN

UN Human Rights Office says 13 children among those killed, 536 civilian casualties recorded - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

 

[dalpat077]

Well given the lull in this thread and my posts of today this seems like the appropriate time to confess something and apologize to a few that I may have hurt over the months by slating them and their countries of birth:

Some have asked why my Russia shit. I M truly so bitter and twisted and angry at how my life has turned out that it occurred to me not too long ago why getting so angry Nd worked up the moment there is shit on the horizon anywhere else in the world. Conclusion: because of my deep seated anger and bitterness I may be living my life vicariously through these powerful leaders. Which I guess says nothing for me as a human being because that is like justifying wiping out the planet because I got out of the wrong side of the bed.

My point is I’m not a hater that just gonna hate S the saying goes. Guess Inowe the biggest apology to the American fraternity around these parts.

And to those who I have offended as a Result of the above: I sincerely apologize to you. So no @mal3volent I got no interest in nor would like to see a hypersonic missile headed straight for downtown WA. And same for China and Australia and NZ or Taiwan (this in spite of my sickening sense of humor and egging the warmongers on). Sorry. Very unfair and misguided and misdirected anger and frustration. Bad taste. Fuck. Wars have been started for less. And no this not some sudden epiphany because the shit got real in UkraineI still got respect for President Putin as a man and as a leader. But that another story for another day I think I’ve embarrassed myself publicly enough here for one day. and maybe disappointed a few. And all with one fuvking finger typing on my iPad. Quite the accomplishment on my part.

Phew that took some soul searching in order to pluck up the courage and make some magnanimous statements and apologies.

 

[December Flower]

I'm pretty sure that a few European countries begged the US to help them in World War 2. They seemed to be having major problems with some guy...can't remember his name, but I'm sure it'll come to me.

I wasn't talking WW2 I was actually talking post-German reunion.
post-WW2 in general.

German news right now

 

[deficiT]

You think I care that much about Russia? I mean, their women are smoking hot but that's about as much as I commend them.

Can confirm, have a Russian gf. That part of your post is at least accurate.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I don’t understand this simplistic view of putin cannot be wrong if the USA has had a history of being so wrong
they can both be pieces of shit it doesn’t have to be an either or situation
by that logic the whole world can burn because human beings are fuckups; masters of delusions and wishful thinking
ukraine doesn’t deserve to be the whipping boy for us aggression and failures in foreign policy

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

Can confirm, have a Russian gf. That part of your post is at least accurate.

i dated a girl from Prague for a couple years - she was smoking hot too - huge boobs - i met her mom when she came for a visit from the czech republic and she still had her communist voting card from before the soviet union fell....that was back in 1999/2000 so it wasn't too far from them leaving the soviets

 

[deficiT]

i dated a girl from Prague for a couple years - she was smoking hot too - huge boobs - i met her mom when she came for a visit from the czech republic and she still had her communist voting card from before the soviet union fell....that was back in 1999/2000 so it wasn't too far from them leaving the soviets

Yeah, my gf is Russian/Israeli/Italian. She's a fucking mega babe, also yeah biggest tits I've ever seen. Ok, getting off topic sorry.

This thread is becoming a bit of a bear to follow. Honestly I'm not trying to infract. I want things to be different in CEPS. I'm going to just edit and delete posts unless it's something egregious.

But please clean it up and stop calling people retarded/stupid, etc... I don't care if it's not directed at a poster. There's no reason for it and it makes this place uglier than it needs to be.

I don't expect perfection or saint like behavior, it's Bluelight after all, but just understand I'm doing my best here to not censor you guys or give out bans.

Just work with me please.

 

[December Flower]

russian news on the other hand

I don’t understand this simplistic view of putin cannot be wrong if the USA has had a history of being so wrong
they can both be pieces of shit it doesn’t have to be an either or situation
by that logic the whole world can burn because human beings are fuckups; masters of delusions and wishful thinking
ukraine doesn’t deserve to be the whipping boy for us aggression and failures in foreign policy

I don't think anyone here said or thought that.
he's a politician, of course he's a crook.

It's just that these NATO provocations, and please, no matter what you think, for him they are provocations,
after NATO promised not to move further east (to the USSR, loophole) were a bit like our old saying:

Wenn der Bauer das Schwein verhaut, hat es wohl wieder Scheiße gebaut. Hat der Bauer kalte Socken, wird er wohl im Kühlschrank hocken. Liegt der Bauer tot im Zimmer, dann lebt er nimmer! Ist dem Bauern kühl am Schuh, steht er in der Tiefkühltruh'!

(If the farmer beats up the pig, it probably fucked something up. Does the farmer have cold socks, he is probably sitting in the fridge. Is he dead inside the room, then he doesn't live anymore! If the farmer's boot is cold, he's inside the deep freezer.)

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

Yeah, my gf is Russian/Israeli/Italian. She's a fucking mega babe, also yeah biggest tits I've ever seen. Ok, getting off topic sorry.

This thread is becoming a bit of a bear to follow. Honestly I'm not trying to infract. I want things to be different in CEPS. I'm going to just edit and delete posts unless it's something egregious.

But please clean it up and stop calling people retarded/stupid, etc... I don't care if it's not directed at a poster. There's no reason for it and it makes this place uglier than it needs to be.

I don't expect perfection or saint like behavior, it's Bluelight after all, but just understand I'm doing my best here to not censor you guys or give out bans.

Just work with me please.

we started talking bazookas

 

[Deleted member 521610]

Putin is about to delcare war on the UK.

Ukraine war: Russia 'won't forget' Britain's support for Ukraine

The Russian despot called the West's economic, diplomatic and cultural boycott of the country tantamount to a declaration of war in a series of bloodcurdling threats from Moscow.

www.dailymail.co.uk

World war 3 by end of march?