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Covid-19 The New Covid Megathread v.Oh-my-cron!

Long Covid, no 2 now confirmed but I was dead confident already, November 21.

1st, Sept 20.

Unusual for me, like no chances unless...actual acquired, but not indefinite imuunity...

14 months!

Not bad.

But nerve based result of NS damage.

This second Covid has impacted nerves much more.

It's interesting! Makes LSD very hard to handle as The nerve damage is literally like a bad trip in itself but I don't let this get me down.


I do know or strongly believe that all of this is fully repairable in time and compared to 1 year ago I'm actually potentially in a much stronger position to more quickly recover from the long Covid and heal the nerve damage which will massively settle down my anxiety condition.


You see never once have I suggested that Covid is not a majorly impactful thing for certain individuals and in terms of impact on society well is there a rival yet?

I will be okay though I've been through this and know what to do now.

It's all very interesting for me to make such clear personal observations from the inside of very advanced nerve damaging long Covid experience especially together with magnanimous amounts of LSD.
 
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My mum. All clear. She had Covid with me November. Was nasty.

She's all clear.

My NS is so dysregylated though.

Covid has affinity getting in there, like no orher Pathogen I know. Borrelia is a thing.

Covid I've said before is next level in different ways.

But I'm not trying to put any amount of fear into people because I'm genuinely not afraid myself I'm just building an understanding and learning to cope.
 
They know what they've done. Keep getting worthless Covid Vax boosters everyone, nothing can go wrong.



CD8+ T cells are cancer fighting cells.

"before and 28 days after the first inoculation also revealed consistent alterations in gene expression of many different immune cell types. Reduction of CD8+ T cells and increase in classic monocyte contents were exemplary"

"To our surprise, we observed quite consistent pathophysiological changes regarding electrolyte contents, coagulation profiles, renal function as well as cholesterol and glucose metabolic-related features, as if these people had experienced an infection with SARS-CoV-2. In addition, PBMCs scRNA-seq results also indicated consistent reductions in CD8+ T cells and increases in monocyte contents, as well as enhanced NF-κB inflammatory signaling, which also mimicked responses after infection. Surprisingly, type I interferon responses, which had been linked to reduced damages after SARS-CoV-2 infection and milder symptoms, appeared to be reduced after vaccination, at least by 28 days post the 1st inoculation. This might suggest that in the short-term (1 month) after vaccination, a person’s immune system is in a non-privileged state, and may require more protection."

 
Yes, attempting to end one of the leading causes of human deaths is somehow an evil conspiracy.

Pretty soon you're going to tell me that chicken noodle soup is connected to covid o_O
Nah. But is there...natural creatine, in chicken noodle soup? 😉 Not mocking mate.

But I do actually believe, all is connected. I don't fuss myself taxing deep for answers.

Now, anyway.

I have some food to attempt success.

Nice too. Basmati rice, brocoli, baked salmon.

Passata, coconut oil, turmeric cayenne cardamom and oregano, dead easy home organic sauce.

Lots olive oil and Redmond Real Salt. The best really. Grey. High silica, vs iron in pink Himalayan.

Silica is a magical mineral too. Skin, connective tissue. Widely deficient.


Whoops! 🤫 not touched floor yet.

Healthy clean food though.
 
I mean.. yeah? Lol

Spotify hasn't complied and it's still freely available. How is that censorship? (So far).

I would be shocked if Joe was somehow actually silenced. It's not going to happen.

They probably also realize how many people they would infuriate by doing so. Twitter gave no fucks, because they aren't politicians.

At this point there has been zero censorship of joe rogan by the definition of the word.
When the white house pressures private companies to censor for them, because they don't have the power to do it themselves, it's an attempt at censoring.
Which is just as bad as actual censoring. I don't understand how you don't see nothing wrong with this. You can hide behind the fact that it's not actual censoring yet, but it's about the intentions and the reasons behind them.

Jen Psaki, literally said "there's more that can be done", implying they like the direction that Spotify was going in with their "warnings" but they expect more.
In any European country this would be a complete outrage, but apparently this is business as usual as long as Joe Rogan stays on Spotify?

And if he gets booted off Spotify, only then will the people condemn it I guess? I don't think so.
 
When the white house pressures private companies to censor for them, because they don't have the power to do it themselves, it's an attempt at censoring.
I dunno, ultimately semantics

I don't see it that way, I think it's distorting the definition of censorship. It's like saying thinking about murdering someone is murder, it's technically not and millions of people do it every day. Is it premeditation? That's the real question, but it's not murder nor is it even attempted murder.

The problem with the podcast is Joe is admittedly not the smartest man (quoting his own words here), so he simply cannot 'question' or validate anything these people are saying. "Wow that's crazy" is what he says to all of it, and of course he won't be rude to his guests and say anything against what they do. If he did a little of that I doubt anyone would be protesting. People are going around calling him the best interviewer of our generation... simply because of his guests. It's weird. The guy smokes DMT, fights MMA and eats deer meat. He doesn't know anything about medical or viral science. Not trying to insult the man, I love him and his standup, I just think people are looking at him like some sort of authority or expert under confirmation bias. You'd never see a talk show host be antagonistic or question their guests, because it's a TV show not a real journalistic interview.

From my point of view, the government is simply trying to keep people healthy and not wanting them to believe things that can start hurting mass amounts of people (for example a complete and paranoid distrust of something like "science" or that 99% of doctors are knowingly harming them, which is ridiculous at best). This is hardly an attempt at censorship IMO

And if he gets booted off Spotify
we both know that's not going to happen and I don't know why everyone is so concerned of it's possibility

Spotify spent so much on Joe then went all in, losing him would be a massive shot in the heart for them. It's not going to happen. They took a huge gamble on him and made a large move into the podcasting market attempting to lead it.
 
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The problem with the podcast is Joe is admittedly not the smartest man (quoting his own words here), so he simply cannot 'question' or validate anything these people are saying. "Wow that's crazy" is what he says to all of it, and of course he won't be rude to his guests and say anything against what they do. If he did a little of that I doubt anyone would be protesting. People are going around calling him the best interviewer of our generation... simply because of his guests. It's weird. The guy smokes DMT, fights MMA and eats deer meat.
He can do whatever he wants, he's not breaking any laws.

I just think people are looking at him like some sort of authority or expert under confirmation bias
I do not agree. I think it's more likely that 90+% of his listeners are just tired of mainstream media and just enjoy a regular guy talking to others.

You'd never see a talk show host be antagonistic or question their guests, because it's a TV show not a real journalistic interview.
Yeah, mainstream media and journalists are very antagonistic and question their guests when they're from the "same side" =D =D come on, these guys are 100% in line with the narratives. COVID, Russia, press conferences on everything... according to this definition there are very few real journalists on TV.

From my point of view, the government is simply trying to keep people healthy and not wanting them to believe things that can start hurting mass amounts of people (for example a complete and paranoid distrust of something like "science" or that 99% of doctors are knowingly harming them, which is ridiculous at best).
Except that all of this has exactly the opposite effect, it's a tale as old as time. For one, even more people will probably have watched the episodes in question and will maybe continue to stick around. For another, people will distrust the government and media even more because they're seemingly so desperately pushing for him to be cancelled.
It is not about healthcare, it really isn't. They've just lost complete control over the media that their people consume, and it's disastrous for them. They used to be able to lie to people's faces and get away with it (Iraq, Afghanistan, 2008 crash etc etc), not anymore, so this is their approach to restore the faith in the mainstream media.

This is hardly an attempt at censorship IMO
So we're really going from "this isn't censorship" to "this isn't even an attempt at censorship" =D unbelievable hahah, I thought this was common ground and you just thought it was justified.
Approach this without the COVID and "the right" and context. It is completely unacceptable for a government to be pressuring companies into censoring stuff, except if there were clear violations of the law, which there aren't. If you think that is acceptable, then I've got nothing more to tell you.
 
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It is not about healthcare, it really isn't. They've just lost complete control over the media that their people consume, and it's disastrous for them. They used to be able to lie to people's faces and get away with it (Iraq, Afghanistan, 2008 crash etc etc), not anymore, so this is their approach to restore the faith in the mainstream media.

Exactly. They're mad that they no longer have a monopoly on the flow of information, so now they hate podcasts, FB and Twitter, and will continue attempting to strongarm any platform that doesn't adhere to the regimes demands about disseminating only regime approved information/propaganda.
 
He can do whatever he wants, he's not breaking any laws.
I know, I've already said that myself, a few times now. Just my opinion.

I do not agree. I think it's more likely that 90+% of his listeners are just tired of mainstream media and just enjoy a regular guy talking to others.
90% of his listeners were listeners before he ever started talking about covid, so, I also agree.

Yeah, mainstream media and journalists are very antagonistic and question their guests when they're from the "same side" =D =D come on, these guys are 100% in line with the narratives. COVID, Russia, press conferences on everything... according to this definition there are very few real journalists on TV.
what? I'm not really following you here bro. Yeah, most real journalism asks a lot more pertinent questions compared to Joe. Joe mostly just allows his guests to speak. Never said anything about a narrative. Not everything is part of a grand narrative.

Except that all of this has exactly the opposite effect, it's a tale as old as time. For one, even more people will probably have watched the episodes in question and will maybe continue to stick around. For another, people will distrust the government and media even more because they're seemingly so desperately pushing for him to be cancelled.
It is not about healthcare, it really isn't. They've just lost complete control over the media that their people consume, and it's disastrous for them. They used to be able to lie to people's faces and get away with it (Iraq, Afghanistan, 2008 crash etc etc), not anymore, so this is their approach to restore the faith in the mainstream media.


So we're really going from "this isn't censorship" to "this isn't even an attempt at censorship" =D unbelievable hahah, I thought this was common ground and you just thought it was justified.
Approach this without the COVID and "the right" and context. It is completely unacceptable for a government to be pressuring companies into censoring stuff, except if there were clear violations of the law, which there aren't. If you think that is acceptable, then I've got nothing more to tell you.
ok yeah now you've lost me, how did we go from censorship to all that--^

we had a good discussion there for a bit, then you kinda started with the insults and misquoting me, not in the mood

I honestly can't tell who your enemy is sometimes, the government, the media, medical science, or anyone at all who doesn't believe in the grand conspiracy or questions ANYTHING for the matter. All of them? Like 70% of the world you believe is either brainwashing you or part of the brainwashing system. Damn dude, how do you even sleep at night while thinking that's going on? If I believed in the conspiracy I'd probably die from overbearing constant stress from paranoia.

I'm gonna go for a jog and watch TV shows and just be a nice little dumb controlled sheep. It's a lot better than reading about covid theories.
 
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Exactly. They're mad that they no longer have a monopoly on the flow of information, so now they hate podcasts, FB and Twitter, and will continue attempting to strongarm any platform that doesn't adhere to the regimes demands about disseminating only regime approved information/propaganda.
Yeah, that whole anti-Substack campaign fits perfectly into this as well.

what? I'm not really following you here bro. Yeah, most real journalism asks a lot more pertinent questions compared to a podcast. Never said anything about a narrative. Not everything is part of a grand narrative.
Except they don't really ask pertinent questions. Anyone remember the Washington Post getting a Pulitzer for their Steele dossier that was complete nonsense? A Pulitzer...
 
Except they don't really ask pertinent questions.
Incredibly subjective, just like calling Rogan a great interviewer.

Who IS a good interviewer, to you? Can you name a couple?

Point me to the good journalism. Point me to quality news sources.

show me how to unbrainwash myself, I need help, not ridicule, right?
 
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nice, his books like interesting
He's legit a great journalist, very good writer too. You might think he goes too hard on some topics and gets slightly unreasonable at times, but he very often has good points, it's up to the reader to just read and make up their own mind.
He's a great Twitter follow, arguing with people all day long too, something I enjoy witnessing and he's very good at it. Tbh, my whole Twitter timeline is people arguing with each other.
 
You know, no matter what I believe, my one largest criticisms of the "narrative" believers is that most of them have zero filter. If they read anything that can possibly add to that narrative they write in their heads it goes right in without question. It's clear bias.

It's hardly validated, checked or even thought about. Just goes right in. They don't believe this or that, they believe ALL covid related conspiracies must be true and anyone who doubts that is part of the narrative. It's paranoid!

That just makes zero sense to me and is statistically impossible. I'll admit that there might be one or two that are actually real, but not 500+ little conspiracies all wrapped up in one giant concise "narrative". That's just ridiculous.

How does one go from pharma companies profiting off disease (which is well documented) to 99.9% of all medical doctors are IN ON IT and jabbing people with poison willingly... that's frankly stupid as fuck to believe.

anyways, jog time :)

I think I might retire from covid threads, does nothing but stress me out. But the thought of these threads contributing to narrative theory with zero other opinions pisses me off.
 
While I do believe that covid is real, its nowhere near the level of scary media makes it out to be. I believe it was created by China with Muricas rich backing it.

To test how many people, lets say, believe the news... ALSO, now we have common enemy, tadada, which happens to be covid. If this sounds like conspiracy to you... time for you to get real.

Even legit doctors cant talk anything negative about covid ANYWHERE. So yeah, lets welcome fascism with open arms!
 
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