Mental Health Coming off Invega (paliperidone) injections, v 5.0

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I'm starting to wonder what this ^ will look like in the long run for a few reasons...

Though a few have suggested I turn my old daydreams/visions into fantasy books, I honestly liked the idea until I started going through them. The emotional toll that Invega worked on me has me at an abrupt loss, it seems. Characters from my daydreams were people that I used to know and what happened over the years were those fantasies became less fantastical and more realistic up until the point that part of me just kind of died. I currently look at my situation as is: I have spent 80-90% of my waking life daydreaming, unable to disconnect what was purely fantasy from what was real for going on 6 years until recently. Given the current set of circumstances, I now sit stoically as I write this and somewhat able to cope with the fact that I have only just recently - after those five years - suddenly ended up back where I once was... in reality again as it goes.

This next part is purely for the sake of getting it out there: I feel as if my emotions from those experiences based in reality are somehow currently mixed with the emotions I felt in la-la land (a place I used to call The Tundra). Though my grip is shaky, and I expect the future release of emotions as these repressed parts continue to work their way out, I somehow have to endure what's to come and not let it swallow me.

But as it is, I have reached one of the major goals I set for myself for completing this Invega journey, which was no more daydreams.

I kinda want to die now...
 
I'm starting to wonder what this ^ will look like in the long run for a few reasons...

Though a few have suggested I turn my old daydreams/visions into fantasy books, I honestly liked the idea until I started going through them. The emotional toll that Invega worked on me has me at an abrupt loss, it seems. Characters from my daydreams were people that I used to know and what happened over the years were those fantasies became less fantastical and more realistic up until the point that part of me just kind of died. I currently look at my situation as is: I have spent 80-90% of my waking life daydreaming, unable to disconnect what was purely fantasy from what was real for going on 6 years until recently. Given the current set of circumstances, I now sit stoically as I write this and somewhat able to cope with the fact that I have only just recently - after those five years - suddenly ended up back where I once was... in reality again as it goes.

This next part is purely for the sake of getting it out there: I feel as if my emotions from those experiences based in reality are somehow currently mixed with the emotions I felt in la-la land (a place I used to call The Tundra). Though my grip is shaky, and I expect the future release of emotions as these repressed parts continue to work their way out, I somehow have to endure what's to come and not let it swallow me.

But as it is, I have reached one of the major goals I set for myself for completing this Invega journey, which was no more daydreams.

I kinda want to die now...
How long have you been off invega? Your visions are interesting i dont hear of anyone having visions as a result of invega. Do you think it will go away eventually? It might be that the visions are visual hallucinations and your experiencing psychosis. Do you still feel like shit from invega? Im wonder8ng if you recovered from invega and now your experiencing psychosis. You might wanna get on meds again to not experience this visual hallucinations. But i can understand why you wouldnt want to be on meds. Tough decision to make
 
Thanks for the advice!
Yes, I am off invega. I actually gained 30 pounds in 4 months after the 2 shots and am barely losing any weight now at 6 months off.
Damn. Have you spoken with a nutritionist and/or a personal trainer? I know that getting the weight off after antipsychotics is really difficult. I think @Micah444 has had some good results?? Sorry if I'm thinking of the wrong person!!

Nobody knows what caused my psychosis. In 2016 I was going through a divorce with my first husband. He was military & cheated in terrible ways, I was young with a three&four year old. My little brother was very supportive to me at this time, he was my best friend. He died of an aneurism in July 2017. Nobody ever saw it coming, he had just got healthy & lost a bunch of weight. I had a job teaching swimming lessons to kids at the time & I spent a lot of time in highly chlorinated water. I don't really cope with emotions, I suppress them, & my family does not encourage communication about negative issues (so we never talked about my brother). At the end of 2017 I heard my first "conspiracy theory" when I saw a Q anon video on YT (yeah, it sounds so dumb now). I had never thought about these kind of ideas before (ideas like what if there was more to 9/11, things that don't add up to official narrative yadda yadda) & I found the distraction of losing myself in these ideas an almost panacea to my grief and problems at the time. "Qanon" was especially enticing to someone like me because it gave the impression that someone was going to put a stop to everything evil we looked at, if only we "believed" enough, almost. I got slowly more and more inundated, spent so much time on 8chan thinking if I missed any post I would miss something very important. People(?) on 8chan encouraged you to think in "numbers", for example if a post had a certain timestamp or correlated to a certain number it had some sort of special meaning. I think this is where I picked up the idea of numerical thinking (numerology? or is that different?) and I started applying it to my real life. It seemed the more small delusions I picked up the more large delusions I was able to accept. By summer 2018 I was believing that Q anon was my brother, that Google had sent out a hit on my brother with some kind of CIA heart attack gun because he was good at programming but a Republican, a bunch of shit like that. People were trying to push the idea of an "R" anon on 8ch who was supposed to complement Q through clues or some such bullshit. I felt that I recognized this as an operation to disenfranchise Q and so I assumed the role of this "R" on 8ch...someone made me my own /rresearch/ board there, as a joke, I think. But I just started writing and writing there after that. I started keeping journals during the day after that, writing down ideas like a crazy person in a movie...I can't describe it, but either way it's deleted now because 8ch was deleted after receiving pressure after some shooting in Texas or something like that.

Anyway, after that I really went downhill. By September 2018 Conspiracy based psychosis eventually seeped into my personal relationships and not just larger institutions. I stopped trusting my kids' school. I truly believed they were drawing their blood without my consent (reading about pizzagate and shit like that will fuck with you on a subconscious level.) I stopped trusting my current husband and went down to my parents' house 2 hours away with the kids thinking it was normal. My mom kept herself very distant & I left & drove East toward Chicago (I had visited there earlier in the Summer to visit my current husband's family and I wanted to take my child support & study at the Chicago Academy for the Arts. Haha. Maybe not wise to leave at midnight with nothing. I spent my only $400 on clothes for me & my kids at Fred Meyer because I didn't pack. I literally had nothing. I panhandled my way from WA to Chicago. With my kids. I hardly slept. I think I stopped in Utah the first night, at a hotel outside a military base. I looked at a map on the wall & imagined that the US stopped at Illinois, & the entire east coast was either a lie, or something like that. I stopped in a city called Washington, Kansas. I had no money for a hotel but two ladies let me sleep at theirs. There is a sign on the road in Washington, Kansas that says "See the man behind the Green Curtain." In the morning I turned at this sign. The kids said "where are we going?" I said "maybe somewhere we can live". "The man behind the green curtain" is, I'm guessing, an empty house where the mayor of munchkin land used to live. There is a picture on the window of all of the munchkins with Judy Garland. Anyway, long story short I went batshit. The less I slept and ate, the more I deteriorated. I remember four hotels, one in Illinois, so I'm guessing I got there in four days. I remember getting to a hotel in Chicago. I was looking at the clock in my car without the time change so I checked in way too early. There was a black preacher outside the hotel who told me he would buy me dinner at the restaraunt there if I came. I went to the restaraunt. I was way too far out of it but I'm really thankful he bought me dinner, even though I couldn't eat it, & let me call my mom. I felt nothing but fear, but I cannot describe it. I opened up my computer in the hotel. I thought maybe I would get some answers on 8ch. Fucking 8ch was just talking about politics. Q had made a post (wow! Q made a post! It much have so much meaning!) It said "God bless the Republican party". God bless the Republican party? I could not give two shakes of a lamb's tail about the republican fucking party. I snapped out of something at that point. The kids wanted to watch Wildkratts on TV. The TV kept glitching out. I found a squished skittle in my backpack. It represented abortion, somehow. The kids wanted to leave the hotel. I drove to a store, like a rite-aid I think. The kids wanted donuts. I couldn't count the change I had. I asked the clerk where the nearest hospital was. I have no idea to this day how I followed those directions and drove myself there. I checked myself in. They took the kids. Matt's mom drove down from northern Illinois to get them (Thank God). They put me in the upstairs of the mental hospital. The one in Harvey, that's named after Green Gables. I guess you only get to go there if you are special. Haha.

What caused it? Who can say. I see people going through some shit on the internet sometimes with their news sources. "mass formation psychosis" is a buzzword right now. Do I think that the internet can cause psychosis? Maybe, I don't know. Maybe if you put your whole belief system into it and make it dysfunctional. I definitely replaced God with the internet around that time.

I really think that things wouldn't have gotten so bad if it weren't for my copper IUD. I had it removed last July, and I feel like my brain doesn't make the "jumps" when it comes to certain lines of thinking that it used to. The support forums for copper IUDs have far more people in them than this support forum, though there are not a lot of examples of psychosis there (just depression , stomach pain , & irrational attitudes & thoughts). Wilson's disease is a thing. I'll never know if I had it.

I have never talked about some of this before, even to my therapist. Sometimes it's easier to write than to say out loud, although I don't know why I have the need to do this at this time (procrastinating from school, probably). Anyway, take care everyone.
Thank you so much for sharing all of that with us Kaatrina. You're a really valued poster in this thread, because you're so open about what you've been through <3 I always really appreciate what you have to say.
 
How long have you been off invega? Your visions are interesting i dont hear of anyone having visions as a result of invega. Do you think it will go away eventually? It might be that the visions are visual hallucinations and your experiencing psychosis. Do you still feel like shit from invega? Im wonder8ng if you recovered from invega and now your experiencing psychosis. You might wanna get on meds again to not experience this visual hallucinations. But i can understand why you wouldnt want to be on meds. Tough decision to make
I feel like you must have skimmed over my posts because some of the answers to your questions here^ were in there.

No. It is not a psychosis. Like I said, whatever was going on had a direct correlation to Invega Sustenna. I have since been on other medications. If I was in psychosis, the many specialists I have seen over the years would have noted something. But I'm saying that long-acting medications were the cause of "these visions". Honestly the answer to what ever caused them probably lies in something more supernatural than psychosis, but I don't feel like going over it with people in this thread.

As of now, my mental health continues to improve and has improved greatly since my time in coming off Invega Sustenna. I've been off it for almost 6 years now, there's nothing remaining that would make me "feel like shit from invega"

They are not "visual hallucinations". What I've been seeing is purely in my mind. Hallucinations are inconsistent distortions of reality that are, more often than not, perceived in such a way that makes them difficult to discern from what's real and what's not. The things I've been seeing are consistent, therefore not hallucination.

Furthermore, I never disclosed anything regarding my status as to whether wanting to or not wanting to be medicated or not.
But as it is, I have reached one of the major goals I set for myself for completing this Invega journey, which was no more daydreams.
As for your other question, I have already answered it here.^
 
A quick search on wikipedia, I found some interesting information on hallucinations: daydreams that are not of voluntary control - seem to fall under that category.

Previous research, I came across maladaptive daydreaming which apparently is not a diagnosis. Maladaptive daydreaming is apparently involuntary - to what degree "involuntary"?- the measure is not clear. Sources seem to suggest that it can easily become habitual, which (for me) it is not.

Using certain techniques (brain hacking) I have been able to diminish negative responses to stimuli which has proven effective at shutting off the daydreaming. So far today I have not had a single instance of "seeing myself in third person" which is what most the daydreams entail. The other criteria for these daydreams, in case you have in interest, usually includes that the daydreams are being run as if portrayed through a camera lens or through the eyes of another. I have tried everything to diminish the daydreams but only one thing has been proven to be 100% effective and that thing is not under my control; when spikes of my former medication hit (a long-acting antipsychotic called Vraylar) it can automatically trigger episodes of daydreams. Since Vraylar reached it's apex (which nearly killed me) it has dropped off since that point and the daydreams have gone from 60-70% of my waking day down to 0-10% at my current state.

All in all, antipsychotics and daydreams appear to have no direct link. My educated guess is that my kundalini and drugs like Invega Sustenna and Vraylar are like oil and water and they do not want to mix. I possess a rare siddhi that allows me to see energy (mostly just my own), however, in the process of coming off Invega (along with coming off Vraylar) somehow the result was, rather than see my own energy, my perspective was being "dragged" out of me to create temporary perception alterations to my psyche that were similar to scenes in drama in how they played out. It's not difficult to see if you're open to the idea of seeing energy, this "correlation" between seeing my own energy and seeing it manifest as something else".

The parts that are consistent now is that that 90-100% that I do not spend daydreaming, I can actually sort of see my own energy again... That other 0-10% when I do daydream, lately those daydreams are more consistent. I cannot say exactly what is consistent about them, but if you have a keen eye you can probably discern the kinds of things I am about to tell you for yourself; Hallucinations by definition are entirely inconsistent. Seeing energy like the Halo that Gopi Krishna used to see (following his kundalini awakening) was 100% consistent (at least according to him). My point, however, is something that shouldn't even need to be expressed - but given the misinformation out there, programming, and whatnot - however, it seems to need doing anyway: the differences between perceiving energy and auras and hallucinating something like a red tarantula crawling on your groin (true story, but not my experience) are two completely different things. One is consistent, the other is inconsistent.

Therefore, in wrapping up this subject - though some criteria that seeks to define what my daydreams are say otherwise, I think I have enough knowledge to prove that what I'm experiencing is not a hallucination.

Though I supposedly have schizophrenia (which I regard as more of a treatment resistant psychosis) I have never hallucinated under normal circumstances. The two exceptions include being on LSD (one time) and being under the effects of Vraylar (going on 2 years and 3 months now).
 
Imagine if a professional athlete was forced antipsychotic injections, there would be a public outcry. It wouldn't happen even if they did have a breakdown because the drugs would ruin their career and these people are protected from anything like that happening to them, also the money to make sure it wouldn't. I read online that sport psychiatrists avoid using antipsychotics as it effects athletic performance, but it's ok for everyone else to have to suffer. I think a high profile person should get injected, not that I wish the misery on anyone but so the truth about forced antipsychotic treatment would be discussed in the media. I think having your life ruined by antipsychotics is something very few people in the world have to endure that's why it's such an isolating experience, not many people could ever understand.
 
Imagine if a professional athlete was forced antipsychotic injections, there would be a public outcry. It wouldn't happen even if they did have a breakdown because the drugs would ruin their career and these people are protected from anything like that happening to them, also the money to make sure it wouldn't. I read online that sport psychiatrists avoid using antipsychotics as it effects athletic performance, but it's ok for everyone else to have to suffer. I think a high profile person should get injected, not that I wish the misery on anyone but so the truth about forced antipsychotic treatment would be discussed in the media. I think having your life ruined by antipsychotics is something very few people in the world have to endure that's why it's such an isolating experience, not many people could ever understand.
Yeah something like antipsychotic drugs even existing is hard to believe if you were never on them. You wouldnt think a drug would make you have no energy and feel like shit all the time. Its like living in a nightmare. I wanna get off them but im on a CTO. Which means im forced to take them. I wanna get off them so badly so i dont hsve to experience the feeling of shit anymore. Psychiatry is the onlh field of medicine where they force you to take medication as opposed to having free will of being medicated or not. Were dupposed to have a right to refuse treatment but it dosnt apply to antipsychotic drugs.
 

Hey guys. Found an article that I wanted to share here that I'd personally validate. Hope it nudges some of you in the right direction.
 
Yeah something like antipsychotic drugs even existing is hard to believe if you were never on them. You wouldnt think a drug would make you have no energy and feel like shit all the time. Its like living in a nightmare. I wanna get off them but im on a CTO. Which means im forced to take them. I wanna get off them so badly so i dont hsve to experience the feeling of shit anymore. Psychiatry is the onlh field of medicine where they force you to take medication as opposed to having free will of being medicated or not. Were dupposed to have a right to refuse treatment but it dosnt apply to antipsychotic drugs.
Psychiatry is so corrupt, how it is allowed to continue I just don't understand.
 
they give us these shitty meds that make us feel like shit and they force us to take it, besides that were forced to pay for it. I swear ppl with psychosis would be better off without meds then being on them all it does is drain your energy away and make you unable to think and lie in bed all day. In the future there should be better meds out so these dark times should soon end. There releasing ulotaront which shouldnt have any negative symptoms. Im just waiting for that desperately, its another 2 years for it to come out. which at one point is a long time but at another angle once i get on that i can finally have my life again and pursue all the things i want to do.
 
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they give us these shitty meds that make us feel like shit and they force us to take it, besides that were forced to pay for it. I swear ppl with psychosis would be better off without meds then being on them all it does is drain your energy away and make you unable to think and lie in bed all day. In the future there should be better meds out so these dark times should soon end. There releasing ulotaront which shouldnt have any negative symptoms. Im just waiting for that desperately, its another 2 years for it to come out. which at one point is a long time but at another angle once i get on that i can finally have my life again and pursue all the things i want to do.
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they give us these shitty meds that make us feel like shit and they force us to take it, besides that were forced to pay for it. I swear ppl with psychosis would be better off without meds then being on them all it does is drain your energy away and make you unable to think and lie in bed all day. In the future there should be better meds out so these dark times should soon end. There releasing ulotaront which shouldnt have any negative symptoms. Im just waiting for that desperately, its another 2 years for it to come out. which at one point is a long time but at another angle once i get on that i can finally have my life again and pursue all the things i want to do.
You sound pretty positive for someone who's on a court order.

As for your predicament, it's not a life sentence - is the best I can describe it.

Though I can only sympathize with your plight so much, the reason being is I myself was not court-ordered to take Rispderal Consta and Invega Sustenna, but...
Verily, I was in situations where I was all but forced to take them anyway.

The thing you have to remember is that your condition is unique to you. By that I don't mean mental illness.

Stay strong in your pursuits to get onto something else
 
Has anyone been to the “Psychiatry: The industry of Death” museum in Los Angeles, California?
I googled it and there’s a lot of information on their website regarding forced drugging and incarceration.
 
You sound pretty positive for someone who's on a court order.

As for your predicament, it's not a life sentence - is the best I can describe it.

Though I can only sympathize with your plight so much, the reason being is I myself was not court-ordered to take Rispderal Consta and Invega Sustenna, but...
Verily, I was in situations where I was all but forced to take them anyway.

The thing you have to remember is that your condition is unique to you. By that I don't mean mental illness.

Stay strong in your pursuits to get onto something else
thanks, first it needs to get approved in the usa and then i need to wait for it to get approved in canada, hopefully it gets approved in canada shortly after getting approved in the usa. After that i need to switch on it and wait like 6 months to recover from the injection im currently on. It could take like 3 years or so. it sucks to have a long wait but at least a new movement is coming out with these antipsychotics. hopefully this new drug replaces all the current drugs on the market and we wont have ppl who are getting injected with invegga sustenna anymore. the future i must say is looking pretty good for people on antipsychotic drugs.
 
I honestly don’t think any antipsychotic drugs is the solution. They’re all the same, just with different side effects.
I think mental illness needs to cured holistically through fasting, meditation, change in lifestyle and diet and mindfulness. Journaling also helps, that way we can read our thoughts from the past and see when we start going astray.
I have just started a 30 day fast to rejuvenate my mind and body and will let you’ll know if it helps.
 
I honestly don’t think any antipsychotic drugs is the solution. They’re all the same, just with different side effects.
I think mental illness needs to cured holistically through fasting, meditation, change in lifestyle and diet and mindfulness. Journaling also helps, that way we can read our thoughts from the past and see when we start going astray.
I have just started a 30 day fast to rejuvenate my mind and body and will let you’ll know if it helps.
im also strongly against antipsychotic meds, ive been on a couple of them and they all made me feel like shit, never found one that made me feel good. but this new antipsychotic ulotaront dosnt antagonize dopamine receptors, i believe its the antagonizing of dopamine and serotonin receptors that make us feel like shit, instead this drug agonizes two receptors, a receptor called the TARR receptor and the 5ht2a receptor. it works completely different from all the other antipsychotics which is why i have hope it will be able to make me feel better. besides that im on a community treatment order so i cant get off meds even if i want to. i must say im getting sick of waiting for this new medication to come out but i dont have any other choice. all my eggs are in one basket, in the hopes that this medication wont make me feel like shit lol.
 
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