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Anyone ever combined MAL and proscaline? @Volsam?

I was thinking about a low dose of MAL with some proscaline to fill it out a little with fewer side effects. I was also considering 2C-B-FLY, but probably won't test that combo.
 
It's the photographic negative of DMT--it couldn't be more different. Other than being short acting, they have nothing at all in common. 5-MeO-DMT has no visuals. It's anti-visual. It eliminates the senses. For many, it's a primal scream of terror or religious ecstasy being ripped from your soul as your being is annihilated, utterly obliterated (and maybe united with the entirety of the cosmos.)

For me, I didn't get the bliss or the terror, I just lost my senses and my self and spent the time hoping that my body was still breathing. I wasn't afraid, just concerned. I wished I'd had a sitter just so that I could attend to the space knowing that my body's needs were being cared for by someone else. It's one of the very few psychedelics that I think do warrant a sitter, especially if you're inexperienced. A fair few people have drowned or aspirated on their own vomit, so why take the risk? Also, there can be a lot of screaming and flailing based on the videos I've seen, so I'd recommend a nice calm, safe, private place. Treat it like a more serious version of salvia extract--you want to be somewhere where you can't hurt yourself when you lose consciousness and your body does it's own thing without you behind the wheel.

People say that they get the most out of it when they go into it with a strong goal or intention, be it cosmic union or simply to experience physical bliss. That helps them channel the extreme energy towards something rather than let it course around directionless, causing fear.
I went ahead and tried the 5meodmt earlier.

I think the cartridge I was sent must've been weak, I think he just took whatever was the remainder of what he had and filled a cartridge with it, because even after like 5 or 6 pulls, I didn't really properly "blast off".

I definitely got some sensations, but really I guess it must've just been a threshold type thing, because clearly if I had taken a proper dose I would've known it.

I'm a little disappointed, but honestly it was sent to me as a free little add on to some other stuff, so I'm not super worried about it.
 
Well that's a bummer. I know some people make low strength carts to get your feet wet before the real deal, but that doesn't sound all that enjoyable or interesting to me. 5-6 pulls off a cart should be much more than you need to blast off with a typical concentration.
 
Anyone ever combined MAL and proscaline? @Volsam?

I was thinking about a low dose of MAL with some proscaline to fill it out a little with fewer side effects. I was also considering 2C-B-FLY, but probably won't test that combo.

I haven't combined the two but I plan to in the future. I have seen a couple mentions of it on reddit raving about the combination. A 2:1 ratio of MAL: Proscaline was suggested. One commenter said they found it superior to mescaline...
 
careful with that 5meodmt, I found it to be dark experience. Put a hole in the wall in my friends house from flailing around. You know +4 with in 30-40 seconds sweats, then death. Was so thankful to open my eyes again, thinking wow I am alive still. Quite an insane experience. Pretty much zero visuals once the peak hits and it hits fast., dark void, lots of audio distortion think *wubb wubb''* sounding when coming down ... crazy crazzy

"or many, it's a primal scream of terror or religious ecstasy being ripped from your soul as your being is annihilated, utterly obliterated (and maybe united with the entirety of the cosmos.)"

I wish I could articulate my thoughts this well... this really sums up 5MEODMT for me. A novelty good for 1-3 uses in my book,

safe travels friends


lets go back in time...



 
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What's up PD fam !
It's been a while. I have been focusing on some personal projects so hadn't have much time to browse bluelight. Hope everyone's having a great start of 2022 !
I have also been mostly away from drugs in general, but this weekend I'm going to a two day psych rock festival, and I will for sure be tripping there.

I was thinking of taking DOC, I have 2.5 mg pellets, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea or not, since I've never taken it before. But it just seems like the ideal situation to take a 20+ hours psychedelic, lol .
Do you think 2.5 would be too strong to handle myself in public ? I would take less, but the pellets are so tiny ... also I can't be sure it is dosed evenly. So I guess it's 2.5 or taking something else.
Maybe I should just assume I will be tripping alsolute balls and just take some benzos just in case haha.
 
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What's up PD fam !
It's been a while. I have been focusing on some personal projects so hadn't have much time to browse bluelight.
I have also been mostly away from drugs in general, but this weekend I'm going to a two day psych rock festival, and I will for sure be tripping there.

I was thinking of taking DOC, I have 2.5 mg pellets, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea or not, since I've never taken it before. But it just seems like the ideal situation to take a 20+ hours psychedelic, lol .
Do you think 2.5 would be too strong to handle myself in public ? I would take less, but the pellets are so tiny ... also I can't be sure it is dosed evenly. So I guess it's 2.5 or taking something else.
Maybe I should just assume I will be tripping alsolute balls and just take some benzos just in case haha.
I found doc at about 3mg to be my sweet spot. It’s a fantastic substance. Takes a couple hours to fully come up and it’s gentle. And having such a long duration and gentle nature makes it feel like it just becomes part of reality for the day, like you’re not even tripping. It’s quite beautiful. I know @Xorkoth has a special place in his heart for doc too.

I tried to tag, idk if that’s a thing that works here but it seems like it did.
 
What's up PD fam !
It's been a while. I have been focusing on some personal projects so hadn't have much time to browse bluelight. Hope everyone's having a great start of 2022 !
I have also been mostly away from drugs in general, but this weekend I'm going to a two day psych rock festival, and I will for sure be tripping there.

I was thinking of taking DOC, I have 2.5 mg pellets, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea or not, since I've never taken it before. But it just seems like the ideal situation to take a 20+ hours psychedelic, lol .
Do you think 2.5 would be too strong to handle myself in public ? I would take less, but the pellets are so tiny ... also I can't be sure it is dosed evenly. So I guess it's 2.5 or taking something else.
Maybe I should just assume I will be tripping alsolute balls and just take some benzos just in case haha.

You've got experience with psychs and you liked DOPr a lot, right? You'll love DOC, it's my favorite one, it's absolutely top notch and it's my absolute favorite festival drug, it is perfect. It's very social, I feel outgoing on it usually and I am the life of the festival, people say I'm just glowing and super fun to be around. Makes me want to talk a lot and hang out with strangers and go on adventures. I'd go for it. :) I usually take 2mg, but 2.5mg would be great too. I've done 3mg at festivals before too. Take it in the morning and you might be up all night but that's great for a festival.

You won't be tripping absolute balls at 2.5mg, it should be comfortable and manageable. Thing about DOC is, even when I'm tripping hard on it, I'm very comfortable both physically and socially. It's a very enabling sort of trip. Of course I always bring benzos to festivals, you never know. A couple of times I've been able to help someone who really needed to pull out of a bad place, too.

Nice to see you back around here, NeuroDr. :) And you too, Img.
 
I was hoping you would chime in Xork <3
Yeah, I really liked DOPr, it was one of my most memorable trips ever. I guess I'll go for it then ! I've been sitting on my DOC for over two years now, so I guess the time has come !
 
I'm quite sure you'll love it. :) It's more well-rounded than DOPr and more sociable, more energetic and lighthearted. And not quite so long a duration (but still very long).
 
how sustainable is kratom use?
Less than kaval

Kratom gives, but it takes back, demands repaymeyment.

It's entering a contract, being addictive, and promptly too.

It took 4 weeks daily use only for me in 2019 to need to endure 4-5 days of hellish enough withdrawal.

Kratom totally sabotages my digestive tract, it's deadly for me, so my WD was related to the recovery from direct allergy disruption too.

But we can't say kratom cannot be used sustainably.

I feel, better to always seek non addictive coping measures.

Kratom can provide incredible relief though.

If taken in an alternating manner, enough to krep actual addiction at bay, it wouldbe there to soothe.

I reckon it would be too easy though to keep using every day for the relief and ensrgy, and become addicted quickly.

Lots of people have walked the path it seems of longterm daily kratom use and addiction,

I tried the path myself, without making much obbservation of this common trend, noticed it later.

Because ideally, you don't want to be physically addicted and feel hell for days no sleep poss, to feel okay again, or as with any physically addictive drug, ever increased doses and dependance.

If you had 2 or 3 herbs LIKE Kratom, including it, and respected Kratom's addictive nature, it could be useful I feel. An easy trap to walk into though.

I was forced to abandon it.

Kava almost every day since, prob double an average daily kava drinker, has not caused any direct harm or consequence.

To me also, kratom really unbalances my brain chemistry.

Kava restores and keeps balance, so is a lot healthier for the brain, mond, imagination and consciousness IMO.
 
how sustainable is kratom use?
Been using it since 2006 on and off. The last several years on. It is sustainable. One of the most balanced of substances for me. I know others think it could be too short or weak. Here in the US kratom is everwhere. Kilo's for cheap andI have not had a bad batch in years. Maybe some slighly weaker but all worked very well.

I use twice a day. Once at around 7:00AM and one at 5:00PM. The same amount everyday. So a maintenance which is what I needed after trying to chip poppy tea 5 years. I had gotten off poppy tea but at the time pods were so available that I kept buying 100 at a time. So I chipped, used once a week, sometimes twice a week and felt like shit on the off days. Totally unbalanced. Then I found kratom and did use poppy tea the next few years but slowly just stopped. I took care of my inlaws for 10 years, before kratom I would steal their dllaudud and oxys (that they did not take anyway) After kratom never took a pill that was not mine again. I am proud of that. Part of the reason is for a day or two after kratom it is hard to feel lighter opiates. lol Poppy tea will however steamroll over the kratom. But yeah, I don't think I will ever take a pill with the sleight of hand again. And don't need the street for heroin. So for me it worked. Burned that karma up.

There are negatives for me. But even they are not so bad and I can function. It is mostly mild.

There were so many ban scares since 2006 I have a fort of the stuff. But kratom is here to stay. I think a business will be built out of it and with the fentynal issue maybe some other countries will open up and let kratom in again.

I think it saved me in that I will always break and reach for an opiate in my life. I would have used street fent by now and who knows, I would be dead. The only issue I have with kratom saving my life is I am not sure what I am suppose to do with this life. :) I wonder why I was spared. So confusing. But I remember Swami Vivekenanda said in Karma Yoga.The quickest way to enlightenment is to do the task we have at hand. So for now I do the best I can.

I hope everybody is well.

Autotripper under this roof we sustain kava and krarom. And cannabis. The three substance in our house that are in the montly budget. lol But my wife rinks kava everyday. Just got two kilos in.It is more expensive that kratom by far.
 
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What's up PD fam !
It's been a while. I have been focusing on some personal projects so hadn't have much time to browse bluelight. Hope everyone's having a great start of 2022 !
I have also been mostly away from drugs in general, but this weekend I'm going to a two day psych rock festival, and I will for sure be tripping there.

I was thinking of taking DOC, I have 2.5 mg pellets, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea or not, since I've never taken it before. But it just seems like the ideal situation to take a 20+ hours psychedelic, lol .
Do you think 2.5 would be too strong to handle myself in public ? I would take less, but the pellets are so tiny ... also I can't be sure it is dosed evenly. So I guess it's 2.5 or taking something else.
Maybe I should just assume I will be tripping alsolute balls and just take some benzos just in case haha.


good dose! I found 4mg to be a great spot with some benzos on hand for when its time to sleep
 
I like DOC, but not as much as DOB which is what my DOB turned out to be (mfs) I knew it wasn't DOB when tripping on it but somehow never realized that it was actually DOC.

One of these days I'll take 12-14mg of 2C-E like not so old times, really miss tripping.
 
Oh I miss 2c-e. Such an amazing compound
It is great isn't it :) it's the psychedelic I've tripped most on I think. My only complaint about it is that it does last really long, and I like to take it in the evening so it lingers into the morning.

I somehow fell asleep due to pure fatigue on it once, and I woke up with my whole lower body cramping up. I was also stuck in something like a dream/awake state, where I was thinking mad things, and I think I was actually awake, sometimes with open eyes. That was super strange and actually scared me at the time because I recall thinking that I was actually thinking about incredibly fucked up things. Can't recall anything about it now though.
 
It is great isn't it :) it's the psychedelic I've tripped most on I think. My only complaint about it is that it does last really long, and I like to take it in the evening so it lingers into the morning.

I somehow fell asleep due to pure fatigue on it once, and I woke up with my whole lower body cramping up. I was also stuck in something like a dream/awake state, where I was thinking mad things, and I think I was actually awake, sometimes with open eyes. That was super strange and actually scared me at the time because I recall thinking that I was actually thinking about incredibly fucked up things. Can't recall anything about it now though.
Yeah I went through several grams of it. Had the most beautiful experiences. Never went higher than 30mg. I miss it.
 
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