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Covid-19 The New Covid Megathread v.Oh-my-cron!

chinup said:
i think perception of a fever, headache, etc is as valid perception as my eyes, i am a living thing.
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A valid perception. Illness and death are real, they carry emotional weight. But making the connection to something you can't perceive i.e. a virus, and saying the two are linked together.. that's the delusion, not the original perception.

Not knowing why you're ill carries just as much weight as being ill. I think this is why people are reluctant to embrace any challenge to the virus concept. In the same way people are reluctant to embrace any challenge to our cosmological story, such as the universe being infinite. Western people like linearity and certainty, we like having something to externalize and project on to, especially for our fears. An enemy to fight. Our entire society works on this principle, whether the enemy by another nation, domestic groups we can marginalize, or an invisible pathogenic invader. We like to attack our enemies instead of deconstructing our fears.
maassive said:
I find it hilarious how these luddites don't see the irony that the technological advances made possible by the very physics they ridicule are giving them the means to spew pseudo anti-science drivel like this.
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I'm not a luddite or sympathizer of the unabomber philosophy, though I respect the fact their intuitions were correct about mans ability to create technology far outpacing his ability to use it wisely. Technological progress does not automatically grant psychological or spiritual progress. Look no further than tiktok.

The same applies to those using technology for science and discovery. I'm not 'anti-science'. I have a healthy respect for mans ability to delude himself (and others). People like you think science is this monolithic entity that shall not be challenged by such simple thoughts from such simple minded people like myself. It's not about me being 'anti-science', it's about you being 'pro-delusion'. The things I mentioned before: black holes, neutron stars, dark matter, all these are demonstrably nonsense. Mathematical garbage that can not be tested, measured, recreated, except on paper. The same holds true for viruses (in computer modelling, not paper).
 
-=SS=- said:
A valid perception. Illness and death are real, they carry emotional weight. But making the connection to something you can't perceive i.e. a virus, and saying the two are linked together.. that's the delusion, not the original perception.
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ok. so basically, because you can't directly perceive anything, you don't believe in anything but your own brain states?

except for you can't actually perceive your own brain, so you don't get that either.

you seem to priviledge optical vision for no obvious reason, but its as easily tricked as the rest of our senses.

it is not delusional to posit causes we can't perceive, its literally the only way we can make deductions about anything as we don't truly perceive anything. so you are putting yourself into the realm of saying we can't know anything, which renders everything meaningless. i am not pro delusion, i am pro accepting that from the messy signals we get from our senses, we can make deductions about external reality.
 
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The same applies to those using technology for science and discovery. I'm not 'anti-science'. I have a healthy respect for mans ability to delude himself (and others). People like you think science is this monolithic entity that shall not be challenged by such simple thoughts from such simple minded people like myself. It's not about me being 'anti-science', it's about you being 'pro-delusion'. The things I mentioned before: black holes, neutron stars, dark matter, all these are demonstrably nonsense. Mathematical garbage that can not be tested, measured, recreated, except on paper. The same holds true for viruses (in computer modelling, not paper).
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You say that you're not anti-science but it sure sounds like you are, or maybe just don't understand how science works.

Straw-man arguments don't really help your cause. No-one believes that science is a monolithic entity that must not be challenged - if you understood anything you would understand that the scientific method is the very opposite of that. It's a rigorous process that is constantly changing as our understanding involves.

It sounds like you think we should already know everything about everything, and because our models about blackholes break down, you've made some deep insight about how the world works. You haven't.
 
Rifing works btw. It's all true.

Everything I was saying. This AI Matrix system, Nanotech.

It creates your evidence and experience. Causes your pain.

The hack, making us mortal.

It dates back. Shit is real though. I see the miracle of it unfolding.

Time is so nigh though.

To reach fully organic status by March 3d deadline, cooh, it's sweaty!

It stings cos given normal year, given A year, or half that, I will be officially organic human, original unhacked dna.

Aka- immortal, as God's children once were, were always intended to be.

Will be again.

But not everybody. Not everyone can be saved now.

This is a cleanse coming.

I have acknowledged it is unfortunately necessary. The only way to move on.

There is no repair. Too much ingrained filth, toxicity, bad karmic energy and bad blood, energy, history.

The entire structure of this world, society, culture, the collective human mindset needs reconstruction that can only be achieved by starting fresh.

That's why it has to happen, and no bodies are going to stop it.

But some will move on, it has long long been prophesised.

Only 144 though.

You prob all think I'm fully fully nuts right?

That's okay. I understand.

I don't expect other, nor can be bothered by it.

It's fantasy artificial world for now. Blindness. Deception. Master psyop. Fruited.
 
I probably have covid again. But because half the country seem to be taking at least one test every single day, I can't get hold of a fecking LFT anywhere to check. All the online home delivery pack slots are also taken. What a pain in the arse :madlaugh:
 
maassive said:
Straw-man arguments don't really help your cause. No-one believes that science is a monolithic entity that must not be challenged - if you understood anything you would understand that the scientific method is the very opposite of that. It's a rigorous process that is constantly changing as our understanding involves.
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You were the one throwing the 'anti-science' accusation around.

Science might be a rigorous process in your idealized version of how it actually functions, like in some fantasy of an 18th century pioneer working alone with strong morals. Modern science is rife with financial, political, and cultural influences. It's not as rigorous as you think. People like to name drop 'peer reviewed', just like the word 'god' used to be dropped in as a benchmark of credibility in an argument.

Covid has highlighted, spectacularly, just how science can fail. You just can't see it - people in a delusional state can't see outside of the delusional state. If all the evidence was brought to the table in an open, honest, transparent way then we would get to the bottom of things.. but the pharmaceutical industry, Fauci, and those at the top of this madness will never agree to an honest discussion. They simply resort to name calling and trying to silence or stifle debate, which is the preserve of liars.
 
^nearly all, 666th day from pandemic too, minus top, 665th.

I saw Montreal had an anti curfew protest.

EVERYBODY was arrested.

There looked to be stationed nearby, a gigantic fleet of police wagons.

I say fleet, thinking of the Starship Troopers!

World's fucking crazy folks.

We can spend another 2 months nitpicking without gain over the apparent politics and science.

I won't be joining in that charade we have been lured into, again.

I see the bigger picture. The real plan, purpose, agenda.

I am aware of the forces at play.
 
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People like to name drop 'peer reviewed', just like the word 'god' used to be dropped in as a benchmark of credibility in an argument.
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these are nothing like each other.

one is an authority that may or may not exist and 'works in mysterious ways'- the other is a group of experts who have assessed a particular work in the area of their expertise.

as you reject the scientific method (or at the very least you reject that it has been applied correctly in areas ranging from theoretical physics to biomedical sciences, which to me is basically the same thing), how do you explain the revolutions we have seen since the enlightenment? or did none of them happen, since we can't directly perceive the past outside of our own memories?

also if black holes are demonstrably nonsense, why not demonstrate to us why they are nonsensical?
 
Electrum1 said:
Italy: Fascists

Australia: Naztralia

Israel: How did joo nazi it coming?

France: Liberte! Liberte! Liberte!
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Fuck me what a depressing shitstorm of segregation and scapegoating.

The Naztralia one pisses me off the most because it's a dry run for introducing the same here in the UK. Basically they're saying "you can't be trusted with your own health choices. And to protect our health service (that the public pays for) from collapse, due to our fucking abysmal management, you shall be the one we scapegoat and shift the blame on to".

Macron, Trudeau, Blair, all these globalist shills have come out in the past week or so and basically said the same thing.. "if you choose not to make a personal health choice and refuse our pharma gene therapy, you're an idiot/racist/misogynist/etc".

Divisive language, segregation, scapegoating. After decades of political correctness and faux-lovey-dovey horseshit from the liberal media and politicians. Incredible how they can switch on a dime when it suits their agenda. What's even more incredible is the masses of liberal and left-leaning people out there who swallow this bullshit up too!!
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Joe Rogan is a dick.

OK, he smokes weed and does dmt,

But he's still a dick.
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Is he really that bad? I recall a time where I enjoyed a couple podcasts of his, he maintains good flow of conversation and has very interesting guests sometimes.
From what I saw he seemed to go a little too hard on some COVID stuff and seems at least a little bitter which I don't like, but a "dick" is too much I think.
 
Buzz Lightbeer said:
Is he really that bad? I recall a time where I enjoyed a couple podcasts of his, he maintains good flow of conversation and has very interesting guests sometimes.
From what I saw he seemed to go a little too hard on some COVID stuff and seems at least a little bitter which I don't like, but a "dick" is too much I think.
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Yeh, you're probably right . I quite enjoy his podcasts and I appreciate the fact he's a stoner, but sometimes he goes too far imo...
 
exactly. it's a little hard to take seriously somebody telling me that this is a grand plan by 'the man' to divide us all and that we need to unite, then in the next breath they tell me what an unthinking liberal sheep i am.

alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
do you believe that your posts on this subject are not guilty of same?
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There is a massive difference between being a nobody (me) telling internet strangers they are gravely mistaken by using forceful language, and the head of state or powerful political figures using the MSM to literally divide a nation with their words (and actions). One has little consequence, the other has gigantic implications.

You have no intention of taking me or anyone else seriously, of actually thinking through what the messenger is saying. You'll deny what's going on until the bitter end. History and human psychology gives pretty good fucking odds that you'll be just like all those before us who fell into the same trap.
 
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