Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

[Zopiclone bandit]

@chinup

Just saying like...........

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

I honestly have no idea what that means.

You HONESTLY have no idea what The Nuremberg Code is & what is is based upon?

Now if you are trolling me here ok you got me, if you really have no idea what this piece of International Law & as far as I know people who break it are still able to be shot please don't ever comment upon the "Vaccine" debate because you are way out of your league here.

I will be kind as usually I'd go in on someone who has no idea about these things but I honestly suggest you learn International Law & a small bit of History before you post again.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2649074

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

I assume you have NO idea what Zyklon B is & what Operation Paperclip is about also?

If you know what happened after WW2 in Operation Paperclip you would NEVER trust a Doctor or big pharma in the USA again.

 

[Jabberwocky]

The apron does nothing. The weird thing is, every house has it's own rules. Each supervisor is idiosyncratic in the way they approach things. So, some houses you wear the apron, but no gloves. Some houses, you wear the gloves but no apron.

no gloves makes no sense. but yeah inconsistencies mean that they can't all be evidence based.

i think its a bit different in the UK cos our case rates are so much higher, i think people should wear masks. i'll be on a train in half an hour so we'll see.

@Zopiclone bandit i'll read his paper when 'm not rushing to get a train but data from a single month out of nearly 1 year of vaccine rollout is fishy.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

no gloves makes no sense. but yeah inconsistencies mean that they can't all be evidence based.

i think its a bit different in the UK cos our case rates are so much higher, i think people should wear masks. i'll be on a train in half an hour so we'll see.

@Zopiclone bandit i'll read his paper when 'm not rushing to get a train but data from a single month out of nearly 1 year of vaccine rollout is fishy.

I'd also assume you are aware of The Nuremberg Code too

"but data from a single month out of nearly 1 year of vaccine rollout is fishy." - Well that cuts both ways my friend, I suggest you also hear Dr Robert Malone, as you are so into "The Science" you must be aware of his tests upon mice & why Moderna were NEVER allowed to release a "vaccine" under normal WHO/AHA/FDA Laws

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

@birdup

 

[birdup]

You HONESTLY have no idea what The Nuremberg Code is & what is is based upon?

No, I just don't see how it is on topic.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

No, I just don't see how it is on topic.

Because this "VACCINE" is still under Emergency Licence & the Stage 3 & 4 Trials were skipped so it could be rushed out HENCE WHY it's on an Emergency FDA licence. When you mandate people to take something that the FULL EFFECTS aren't know of you are doing HUMAN EXPERIMENTS upon people which is illegal & you can be SHOT till you are dead or possibly hung for it still.

Understand now?

 

[birdup]

Well no, I can't say you convinced me.

Generally when people invoke the Third Reich in a discussion that doesn't directly pertain to WW2, I tend to zone out a bit honestly.

I also zone out a bit with capitalized sentences and/or words.

We've come up with a name for Hitler references in unrelated discussions.

Godwin's Law.

There are too many films about zombies and about WW2 because it doesn't require thinking outside the box to just do what everyone else does.

Hitler doesn't define humanity.

You can either make a sensible, coherent connection between WW2 and COVID or you can't. Fluff is just fluff.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

When you go to get this stuff injected into you everyone has to sign a legal form that gives away all your rights (NOT that groups like J&J as one example are able to be dragged to Court, they always settle outside & I can link you many legal cases where they have done this)

Nobody knows what this Mrna will do to humans as it's never been fully tested, the link I posted above & will post here AGAIN........
They also say in this & I quote 100% DIRECTLY ""We're never going to learn about how safe this vaccine is unless we start giving it."

Join the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for an upcoming meeting of its Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) to discuss newly available data for the currently available COVID-19 vaccines. The committee will meet to discuss a request to amend Pfizer-BioNTech’s Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for administration of their COVID-19 mRNA vaccine to children 5 through 11 years of age.

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[Jabberwocky]

I'd also assume you are aware of The Nuremberg Code too

"but data from a single month out of nearly 1 year of vaccine rollout is fishy." - Well that cuts both ways my friend, I suggest you also hear Dr Robert Malone, as you are so into "The Science" you must be aware of his tests upon mice & why Moderna were NEVER allowed to release a "vaccine" under normal WHO/AHA/FDA Laws

Malone has gone off tye deep end.

And please shut up about the nuremberg code, its not relevant and it's hurtful to those of us with intergenerational trauma related to the nazis.

Thought a bit more on the way to the train station. If this paper is about this November, the analysis and writing was done in 3 days. That's not how it works. Good papers take months or years. The full data for November might not even be available yet.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Generally when people invoke the Third Reich in a discussion that doesn't directly pertain to WW2, I tend to zone out a bit honestly.

Easy way to skip out on this one

I'm not like you say bringing up The Third Reich so please don't try to be smart with me cause I swear I will really show you up, it's clear you aint the most sharp tool in the box as it is.

You don't even understand why injecting people with an experimental drug is illegal ffs.

 

[birdup]

You don't even understand why injecting people with an experimental drug is illegal ffs.

What is legal (and what is not) is defined by the government, right?

Not saying the government is infallible, just trying to establish what legal means.

It is not illegal, because it is not.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

@chinup

• This temporary Authorisation under Regulation 174 permits the supply of identified COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 batches, based on the safety, quality and efficacy data submitted by Pfizer/BioNTech to MHRA in the period from 1 October to 2 December 2020;
• This authorisation is not a marketing authorisation;
• This authorisation applies to supply within the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
• As provided in Regulation 174A(2) of the Human Medicine Regulations the sale or supply of this vaccine will not be deemed authorised if the supply is for the purpose of any use other than the recommended or required use, or if a condition in this authorisation is breached;
• The entity responsible for physically supplying the product in the United Kingdom is Pfizer Limited (incorporated in England and Wales under registered number 526209). Pfizer Limited and BioNTech Manufacturing GmbH (An der Goldgrube 12, 55131 Mainz, Germany) will be jointly and separately responsible for placing the product on the market in the United Kingdom for the purposes of The Human Medicines Regulations including Reg 345(3) (hereinafter “Pfizer/BioNTech”);
• Pfizer/BioNTech are jointly and separately responsible, with the manufacturers of the product, for the conditions relating to the manufacture of the product and to product release to the market under the terms of this authorisation;
• Pfizer/BioNTech is not only responsible for compliance with the conditions expressly applied to it in this authorisation but also, where the conditions apply legislation or guidance that confers responsibilities on marketing authorisation holders, for compliance with any responsibility however worded that applies to a marketing authorisation holder in the applied legislation or guidance;
• Pfizer/BioNTech must promptly provide to MHRA any further data that is generated by them, or which otherwise come into their possession, which is relevant to the risk / benefit profile of the product;
• Pfizer/BioNTech must respond in a timely manner to any requests for further supplementary data relating to product;
• Any deviations from any of these conditions can only be made with the prior agreement of the MHRA;
• MHRA may review and adjust these conditions for temporary supply in response to any developments which it considers material, including any subsequent market authorisations that might be issued by other medicines regulators;
• This authorisation will be valid until expressly withdrawn by MHRA or upon issue of a full market authorisation by the MHRA.
  
  gov.uk good enough for you?
  
  
  ARCHIVE: Conditions of Authorisation for COVID-19 Vaccine Pfizer/BioNTech (Regulation 174)

  www.gov.uk

 

[Jabberwocky]

So does Vaccine trials sweetie

They did take months, using tech that was basically ready to go when covid hit. Not 3 days like your paper.

From your government quote all I see is that the use of these vaccines is perfectly legal. I thought you were arguing their use was illegal?

 

[-=SS=-]

They did take months, using tech that was basically ready to go when covid hit. Not 3 days like your paper.

From your government quote all I see is that the use of these vaccines is perfectly legal. I thought you were arguing their use was illegal?

Both of these sentences epitomize the disingenuous nature of the debate coming from the government and its supporters.

The technology might have been ready, that's not the point. The point is this specific formulation has not gone through the safety testing regime that vaccines have to go through. This is a live experiment, which is why the pharmaceuticals were insistent on the liability clause in the contracts, so they can't be held responsible if it all goes pear shaped down the road. Over the past year they have desperately tried to play down and ignore the myocarditis risk, and it's now got to the point where the public can literally see the pattern of high exertion athletes collapsing on an almost daily basis. Proper safety trials would have caught this, and not only that but this is more than enough to immediately discontinue the vaccines as they clearly have a dangerous fault. But no.. we're now going full steam ahead pumping this into children. It's a crime against humanity in action and those involved are going to hang, if they're lucky and don't get ripped apart by the public first that is.

Legality is not morality, nor is democracy an arbiter of truth. If 51% of the voters decide to legalize murder that does not mean murder is right.

The Nuremberg code is relevant because what it boils down to is consent and coercion. All the worlds governments are guilty of the latter.. in the UK this week we have Sajid Javid coercing a news reporter live on air to get the jab (personally I think it was staged though). We also now have Austria and Germany both making this experimental emergency authorized product compulsory by law, which is a clear violation of Nuremberg, but anyone with an ounce of self awareness doesn't need a piece of paper to know that forcing people to take something into their bodies they don't want is immoral. It is state sanctioned rape, with the possibility of severe injury or even death. Again, no rational moral person would ever argue that is acceptable under any circumstance. A human being has sovereign choice of their body, not the state, and to argue otherwise means you have lost the fucking plot quite frankly.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

How about an analogy that most of us can understand?


It's recently been reported that US overdose deaths have exceeded 100,000 since April 2021 - largely due to heroin adulterated with fentanyl.

Imagine if the government tried to minimise these deaths by issuing free shots of pharmaceutical grade diamorphine hydrochloride.

Which would you choose?

a) Gimme some of that because I don't want to die and will do anything to minimise the risks.

b) Fentanyl is a myth and doesn't kill people so I'll take my chance with fentadope rather than that big pharma government sanctioned shit that could contain anything.

 

[Yourbaker]

I am amazed how such a large portion of the population can think about 30% of the human population trying to put the brakes on a run away mistake are just trying to stir up trouble?

I will most certainly wait until a much more accurate vaccine is produced before I will start treading water with the 6 month pick me ups.

Since the vaccines are not stoping the spread of the virus very effectively it will be with us for quite some time. I'm very glad I had the real thing and don't need to get on the booster wagon of fear. In a few years my immunity will be gone but I will get it again.

The concept of immunizing children that would become immune naturally, and getting them all on the shot every 6 months program, is just making money off parental fears. Your government is supposed to be made up of people smart enough to see this and not throw your nation's wealth to the wolves.

The only event that makes this reaction (the entire lockdown mandated vaccine insanity) reasonable is if all of our governments already know exactly what was released from a lab and fear it for reasons they are not releasing. This would still be a mistake because the harder they push the firmer the resolve. Our leadership has created a catch 22 that anyone could see coming.

I'm curious how long before I have to wear an arm band to show I'm not vaccinated?

 

[AutoTripper]

Guys I could post something here are very specific and relatively detailed account and presentation of what Covid is and much more which people would officially I mean officially proclaim me surely barkers for even posting let alone whether I paid it any credence personally or not.

So perhaps I just won't because depending on one's perception some people might regard this as just too too much of a bitter red pill.

 

[birdup]

Please do.