Opioids I think I’ve been taking pressed fent m30 pills

Bag84 · Nov 13, 2021

So basically I have been taking Oxycodone 10mg (real, prescribed to me) for a while. I have about a 80mg a day habit. Now I don’t take these to get high, I don’t even get high anymore. I just use them to help with my physical pain and I know I’m addicted to them because I deal with withdrawls when I’m out and also they do wonders for my depression and anxiety. Better than any benzo or antidepressant I’ve ever been on. The problem is my doctor is not giving me enough so I run out.

A few months ago I came across some m30s. I always avoided them cause I know they are 99 percent fake but I was is so much pain I was willing to take a chance and the guy told me they were real. I guess a part of me wanted to believe him. I haven’t taken them consistently just maybe once a month I would take them for a few days. Well I had the same problem last week and ended up with 15 “m30s”. At this point I’m certain they are fake. The thing is I’ve been taking them for 7 days straight which I’ve never done before. Most of the time I don’t take a whole pill. I’ll take half or 3/4s of it.
anyway since Saturday I’ve been taking them every day and like I said I had 15 pills and now for 7 consecutive days I’ve been taking them and I have 1/2 pill left so I’m averaging 2 pills a day. I never smoke or snort. Only take them by mouth. I’m wondering (terrified) if I have taken enough to withdraw from or get addicted to this junk, whatever they are (mont likely fentanyl from what I’ve read). If so what can I expect? My script isn’t due for another 7 days. Somebody please help cause I’m so afraid I’ve gotten into something I shouldn’t have. But I am committed to never doing this again. I made a promise that I will not take these ever again. Please respond cause I’m really afraid and want to know what to expect.
Thank you in advance.

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Nurse Ratched · Nov 13, 2021

Well, yeah. You could be addicted to the fent by now. So in one week you did 15 qty. dirty 30's right?

If you stop now you might get off lightly. You are addicted to oxy as it is and you don't want a fent addiction.

You have also now raised your tolerance so when you get your oxy you will need more than usual. ( fent increases tolerance quite a bit ).

Drop the fent, stick to your script, and if you keep running out the only other choice ( for a good outcome ) is subs or methadone.

I know you don't think you receive enough and want more but running out every month and copping the dirty 30's on the street to bridge the gap is going to backfire pretty bad. You might get to a point where the oxy quits working entirely. Stop now, man and Good luck.

Bag84 · Nov 13, 2021

So after a week I’ve raised my tolerance and to the point where oxy won’t work anymore? How long does the withdrawal normally last and if I never take the fake m30s again can I ever have the hope of using my meds like Im supposed to? Like commit to making them last? Won’t my tolerance reset so that my oxy works again? Like I said. I really am done with these other pills and just want to take my script and make them last.

Nurse Ratched · Nov 13, 2021

Bag84 said:
So after a week I’ve raised my tolerance and to the point where oxy won’t work anymore? How long does the withdrawal normally last and if I never take the fake m30s again can I ever have the hope of using my meds like Im supposed to? Like commit to making them last? Won’t my tolerance reset so that my oxy works again? Like I said. I really am done with these other pills and just want to take my script and make them last.

If you truly want to start taking your script as directed then you will be fine. Even if you have slight WD from the fent it won't be that bad. You only used for a week so that's in your favor.

IF you stop now with the fent then yes...when you get your script in a week it should still work but the dropping the dirty 30's is a must and you know you are going to run out again next month so what are you going to do then? You are gonna want a dirty 30 so be prepared to figure something out next month. Make 'em last or do without. Make plans now for your next refill . Ration them out or let someone else hold them.

Bag84 · Nov 13, 2021

Pumpkin2021 said:
If you truly want to start taking your script as directed then you will be fine. Even if you have slight WD from the fent it won't be that bad. You only used for a week so that's in your favor.

IF you stop now with the fent then yes...when you get your script in a week it should still work but the dropping the dirty 30's is a must and you know you are going to run out again next month so what are you going to do then? You are gonna want a dirty 30 so be prepared to figure something out next month. Make 'em last or do without. Make plans now for your next refill . Ration them out or let someone else hold them.

I mean it. I’m done. I feel so dirty for this. My plan is to slowly reduce my dose weekly and actually not only make them last but have some left over. I could start at 60 mg a day and plan to drop 5mg a week until I get to 30. Also I have Kratom so I might take a couple days off a week. I’m going in the wrong direction and I want my quality of life back. I’m serious about this I’m just worried about the damage I’ve already done. I also have a few suboxone and was thinking of taking like 1mg once a week and skip a day of oxy. I just need to do this comfortably and my plan is to never ever run out again and save some up Incase I have to wean off. Like I said im committed im just really worried about the damage I’ve caused already.

Nurse Ratched · Nov 13, 2021

Bag84 said:
I mean it. I’m done. I feel so dirty for this. My plan is to slowly reduce my dose weekly and actually not only make them last but have some left over. I could start at 60 mg a day and plan to drop 5mg a week until I get to 30. Also I have Kratom so I might take a couple days off a week. I’m going in the wrong direction and I want my quality of life back. I’m serious about this I’m just worried about the damage I’ve already done. I also have a few suboxone and was thinking of taking like 1mg once a week and skip a day of oxy. I just need to do this comfortably and my plan is to never ever run out again and save some up Incase I have to wean off. Like I said im committed im just really worried about the damage I’ve caused already.

I don't think you have done too much damage. Don't let it worry you. Just stick to your plan and you will be fine.

LivingOnValium · Nov 14, 2021

If your legit daily need of oxy is 80mg that makes you an abuser in eyeys of the doctor. He doesn't care that you say don't take them to get high. He probably is sure that you are and now you're desperate to get more out him. Doesn't look good for you. Got a bad feeling on this one but i hope you the best of luck..

Fire&Water · Nov 14, 2021

LivingOnValium said:
If your legit daily need of oxy is 80mg that makes you an abuser in the eyes of the DEA's war on drugs

Fxd

LivingOnValium · Nov 14, 2021

Fire&Water said:
Fxd

i would say both

Fire&Water · Nov 14, 2021

LivingOnValium said:
i would say both

Maybe the new generation of Dr's ...
Ive had more then a few Dr's in my life (between ages of 40's thru 60's) that had heartfelt compassion for people with legitimate pain & prescribed accordingly
Fuck these new spineless doctors

Robi · Nov 18, 2021

Pumpkin2021 said:
Well, yeah. You could be addicted to the fent by now. So in one week you did 15 qty. dirty 30's right?

If you stop now you might get off lightly. You are addicted to oxy as it is and you don't want a fent addiction.

You have also now raised your tolerance so when you get your oxy you will need more than usual. ( fent increases tolerance quite a bit ).

Drop the fent, stick to your script, and if you keep running out the only other choice ( for a good outcome ) is subs or methadone.

I know you don't think you receive enough and want more but running out every month and copping the dirty 30's on the street to bridge the gap is going to backfire pretty bad. You might get to a point where the oxy quits working entirely. Stop now, man and Good luck.

you know ur stuff, good words, i loved the dirty 30`s, def stop them! surprised how tramafol helped with withdrawl

Bag84 said:
So basically I have been taking Oxycodone 10mg (real, prescribed to me) for a while. I have about a 80mg a day habit. Now I don’t take these to get high, I don’t even get high anymore. I just use them to help with my physical pain and I know I’m addicted to them because I deal with withdrawls when I’m out and also they do wonders for my depression and anxiety. Better than any benzo or antidepressant I’ve ever been on. The problem is my doctor is not giving me enough so I run out.

A few months ago I came across some m30s. I always avoided them cause I know they are 99 percent fake but I was is so much pain I was willing to take a chance and the guy told me they were real. I guess a part of me wanted to believe him. I haven’t taken them consistently just maybe once a month I would take them for a few days. Well I had the same problem last week and ended up with 15 “m30s”. At this point I’m certain they are fake. The thing is I’ve been taking them for 7 days straight which I’ve never done before. Most of the time I don’t take a whole pill. I’ll take half or 3/4s of it.
anyway since Saturday I’ve been taking them every day and like I said I had 15 pills and now for 7 consecutive days I’ve been taking them and I have 1/2 pill left so I’m averaging 2 pills a day. I never smoke or snort. Only take them by mouth. I’m wondering (terrified) if I have taken enough to withdraw from or get addicted to this junk, whatever they are (mont likely fentanyl from what I’ve read). If so what can I expect? My script isn’t due for another 7 days. Somebody please help cause I’m so afraid I’ve gotten into something I shouldn’t have. But I am committed to never doing this again. I made a promise that I will not take these ever again. Please respond cause I’m really afraid and want to know what to expect.
Thank you in advance.

pumpkin gave the best advises, i took many dirty 30`s, liked them too much, but fent def made me immune to other opiates, i feel pretty ashamed but i had withdrawl for a week, and oddly some reports that tramadol can help, did for me, happy you wont take those again, i know your worry, getting off wasnt easy but much easier than my fear, it was almost worse than the discomfort i experienced, fukkn fear dang, i really feel for you, hard for me to say dont over stress, but i wish truely wish for you to have less anxiety of it, glad you didnt smoke or snort, you got this, it wont be as bad as you might be thinking.def eat when you feel like you cant, and water water water..youre gonna be ok and look back one day and say whew! i made it just fine, or atleast not as bad as where the mind can take you

Nurse Ratched · Nov 18, 2021

So glad to see you @Robi offering up some really good advice and compassion for people that are struggling. I love it when new members hop right in and want to help people. Warms my heart :cheer:

Robi · Nov 18, 2021

Pumpkin2021 said:
So glad to see you @Robi offering up some really good advice and compassion for people that are struggling. I love it when new members hop right in and want to help people. Warms my heart

oh shoot, youre a saint in my eyes, should be bloody cannonized, i do feel people pains and know how lifes stressors can take such tolls, i thank you for inspiration, you have such innate knowledge and also feel much life experience, words are not enough, but i thank you from the heart for advising helping others, you are leaving such a good wake in these troubled waters(pulls tissue from my bra and dabs non
butt smelling eyes)

Robi · Nov 18, 2021

Robi said:
oh shoot, youre a saint in my eyes, should be bloody cannonized, i do feel people pains and know how lifes stressors can take such tolls, i thank you for inspiration, you have such innate knowledge and also feel much life experience, words are not enough, but i thank you from the heart for advising helping others, you are leaving such a good wake in these troubled waters(pulls tissue from my bra and dabs non
butt smelling eyes)

blue lighter!! hurrah!!

MsDiz · Nov 18, 2021

To answer the OP and question. I don’t think you’ll suffer from withdrawals too badly. It won’t be pleasant but it won’t be awful. @Pumpkin2021 has rightly informed you that taking these fake presses, if they contain fent, that will raise your tolerance to your regular medication. So that 80mg you were taking will not work as well as you remember it.

I wouldn’t recommend you turning to subs or methadone at all. That’s medication you may need in the future and it would be madness to use it now when you can, with work, reduce your current use.

Bottom line is you’re going to have to work on your relationship with your pain and how you address it or you’re going to end up very quickly in a place you don’t want to be. A place many users of this site have ended up. The cycle of addiction will very quickly destroy you and everything around you.

If you are a chronic pain patient and need opioids then you need to realise that your number one goal should be to only take the amount you need to take the edge off the pain. Being pain free would be great but you need to accept that unfortunately that’s no longer your life.

It sucks, as a chronic pain patient myself I am always in pain and I have had to realise that its part of my condition and deal with it. I take the lowest amount of pain relief I can. Doing this means that when I’m 60 I will stil have medication left to use for my pain because by then my tolerance will obviously have been raised and I will need something stronger.

I personally aim for dose increases every 3 years. I do this by:

Taking only enough to take the edge off the pain, not stop it completely.
I take tolerance breaks every 3 months of 2-4 weeks. That means withdrawing from my meds and just dealing with the pain.
I look after myself: that means I exercise, I take my supplements and most important of all, I get the sleep my body needs to heal and recharge.
I also distract myself a lot from the pain, I play piano, I read books, listen to music, work and study, which are also great distractions but you really need to do something you enjoy for it to work.
Most important of all, I do the mental work to put myself into the mindset that helps me cope with the pain. I have done CBT which is great and I highly recommend you look into it. I do yoga and meditation. I accept that I have pain, I fully accept it and acknowledge that I can allow myself to be cranky and pissed off for a short while but I need to snap myself out of it and just get on with things.
I have a routine, routines are great, motivation always wains but if you are consistent and just do it everyday you will get the benefit from it.

(The above is what I do and is just an example of my plan for my pain management. Everyone’s will be different and you can work with your physician or pain management consultant on something that will fit you. This is seen very favourably by Drs. My Dr has given me PRN fent lollies for if my pain is very excessive even, I have built the trust with him and I do benefit from that).

You can definitely work to get yourself down from that 80mg to at least your prescription. If you want to go further, again that’s definitely possible. You know where your current use and behaviour will lead. It’s up to you to put the work in and prevent it. It’s hard, it’s annoying, it’s all the bad things for a while until it isn’t and it starts to work. Perseverance is required and it’s a bitch. You can get there though, believe in yourself.

Nurse Ratched · Nov 18, 2021

Robi said:
oh shoot, youre a saint in my eyes, should be bloody cannonized, i do feel people pains and know how lifes stressors can take such tolls, i thank you for inspiration, you have such innate knowledge and also feel much life experience, words are not enough, but i thank you from the heart for advising helping others, you are leaving such a good wake in these troubled waters(pulls tissue from my bra and dabs non
butt smelling eyes)

ha ha ha I see you read the best of BL thread in the lounge. Very clever response.

Oh no....a tittie tissue. Say it ain't so.

Nurse Ratched · Nov 18, 2021

Robi said:
blue lighter!! hurrah!!

Nurse Ratched · Nov 18, 2021

MsDiz said:
To answer the OP and question. I don’t think you’ll suffer from withdrawals too badly. It won’t be pleasant but it won’t be awful. @Pumpkin2021 has rightly informed you that taking these fake presses, if they contain fent, that will raise your tolerance to your regular medication. So that 80mg you were taking will not work as well as you remember it.

I wouldn’t recommend you turning to subs or methadone at all. That’s medication you may need in the future and it would be madness to use it now when you can, with work, reduce your current use.

Bottom line is you’re going to have to work on your relationship with your pain and how you address it or you’re going to end up very quickly in a place you don’t want to be. A place many users of this site have ended up. The cycle of addiction will very quickly destroy you and everything around you.

If you are a chronic pain patient and need opioids then you need to realise that your number one goal should be to only take the amount you need to take the edge off the pain. Being pain free would be great but you need to accept that unfortunately that’s no longer your life.

It sucks, as a chronic pain patient myself I am always in pain and I have had to realise that its part of my condition and deal with it. I take the lowest amount of pain relief I can. Doing this means that when I’m 60 I will stil have medication left to use for my pain because by then my tolerance will obviously have been raised and I will need something stronger.

I personally aim for dose increases every 3 years. I do this by:

Taking only enough to take the edge off the pain, not stop it completely.

I take tolerance breaks every 3 months of 2-4 weeks. That means withdrawing from my meds and just dealing with the pain.

I look after myself: that means I exercise, I take my supplements and most important of all, I get the sleep my body needs to heal and recharge.

I also distract myself a lot from the pain, I play piano, I read books, listen to music, work and study, which are also great distractions but you really need to do something you enjoy for it to work.

Most important of all, I do the mental work to put myself into the mindset that helps me cope with the pain. I have done CBT which is great and I highly recommend you look into it. I do yoga and meditation. I accept that I have pain, I fully accept it and acknowledge that I can allow myself to be cranky and pissed off for a short while but I need to snap myself out of it and just get on with things.

I have a routine, routines are great, motivation always wains but if you are consistent and just do it everyday you will get the benefit from it.

(The above is what I do and is just an example of my plan for my pain management. Everyone’s will be different and you can work with your physician or pain management consultant on something that will fit you. This is seen very favourably by Drs. My Dr has given me PRN fent lollies for if my pain is very excessive even, I have built the trust with him and I do benefit from that).

You can definitely work to get yourself down from that 80mg to at least your prescription. If you want to go further, again that’s definitely possible. You know where your current use and behaviour will lead. It’s up to you to put the work in and prevent it. It’s hard, it’s annoying, it’s all the bad things for a while until it isn’t and it starts to work. Perseverance is required and it’s a bitch. You can get there though, believe in yourself.

Excellent post. Nice to see you on. Hope life is well.

Robi · Nov 18, 2021

that was encredible MsDiz, so very helpful, BL has made such a positive impact.i was all excited to get xanax yesterday, it as if ive had an awakening, never ever been able to be open and honest with anyone, let alone the freeing feeling to have discussion with intelligent people that really relate and understand,,,,,,,,,to hell with all this crap doc gave me,i can give advice but now to follow my own, im not physically addicted rt now, emotionally yes and hearing advises and pain of other has woken me up, like never before many blessings to you

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