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porkstock said:
Years ago I got the impression that DPT was not orally active (unless maybe with MAOIs)

Or maybe it was just much stronger nasally / a “waste” to eat it?

I really don’t like snorting stuff, I pretty much exclusively eat my psychedelics
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Yeah, at least based on the doses tested orally in TIHKAL it's far more potent via IM, IV, intranasal, or vaporized. It looks like it lasts a lot longer when it's eaten though.
 
Buzz Lightbeer said:
For what it's worth, I distinctly remember me becoming hypomanic after DPT. It's hard to say, before the meds I was switching so rapidly between moods that it's hard to say if it was the real cause.
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Well, you did use a much larger dosage than I did (30 mg smoked). DPT was the only base tryptamine that didn't make me feel that way so maybe it just takes more to bring it out.

Buzz Lightbeer said:
Many psychedelic trips have induced hypomania in the past, never full on mania though, sometimes it even happens during or after the peak. This possibly made certain experiences much more enjoyable than if this weren't the case, there's an ugly side to it but it is fun. It's quite hard to distinguish with the psychedelic effects, but the confidence, body feel and tuned in hearing and vision... and it lasts for days, so....
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I live this too unfortunately. This is why I prefer phenethylamines right now because they feel much less manic than tryptamines to me in this way, although I recommended a tryptamine because I think the antipsychotic is more likely to block some of the effects of a phenethylamine or lysergamide than of a tryptamine.

Buzz Lightbeer said:
I can still get hypomanic, there's no real danger in that but Seroquel seems to act like a reset on my mood every day.
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This is why I like having my olanzapine around even though I don't use it. I built up three months worth of prescription just in case before I stopped going to the urgent care clinic.
 
Kaleida said:
Well, you did use a much larger dosage than I did (30 mg smoked). DPT was the only base tryptamine that didn't make me feel that way so maybe it just takes more to bring it out.
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You’d absolutely love a large dose Kaleida, the question of intensity vanishes, it’s like just the experience. Insufflated is a good ROA too, I think it makes for a more physical experience. The extended duration makes it very long and exhausting but it’s worth it.
I should try smoking it someday, IM of course too but I don’t know the first thing about injecting myself.

Kaleida said:
I live this too unfortunately. This is why I prefer phenethylamines right now because they feel much less manic than tryptamines to me in this way, although I recommended a tryptamine because I think the antipsychotic is more likely to block some of the effects of a phenethylamine or lysergamide than of a tryptamine.
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I hadn’t even considered that angle tbh. I mostly took phenethylamines anyway and they made me manic, San Pedro and MAL for sure, my DOB trip too. But generally I don’t think it depends all that much on the drug, I am so sensitive to triggers anyway, a couple of hours less sleep and I’m there so…

Kaleida said:
This is why I like having my olanzapine around even though I don't use it. I built up three months worth of prescription just in case before I stopped going to the urgent care clinic.
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Indeed a great idea. After a couple of weeks on my dose, Seroquel had a clear mood stabilizing effect and it eliminated all my depressive episodes, which is why I take it daily. Without it‘s just chaos every day, I don’t want that anymore.
But I certainly very much understand why you don’t want to take it daily.
 
porkstock said:
Years ago I got the impression that DPT was not orally active (unless maybe with MAOIs)

Or maybe it was just much stronger nasally / a “waste” to eat it?

I really don’t like snorting stuff, I pretty much exclusively eat my psychedelics
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I also hate snorting, curious to try plugging DPT one of these days. Or propylhuasca with an maoi. So short on time these days...
 
simstim said:
I haven't done much reading about 2fdck, but it sounds kind of like 2-MEO-Ketamine. I needed about 300mg of that to feel like about 150mg of K.


It's funny that you refer to it as a "mental reset". I decided about 18 years ago that I needed to trip at least once every 3-6 months as a "reset". Otherwise I start to feel crazy.
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Same. Tripping really helps get me grounded again and any priorities that faded come back into alignment. I can't really trip without being insanely conscious about what I put in my body for at least 24 hours, but san pedro was the main one that started that.

But idk, I was taking mushrooms like every 2 weeks on the dot and then the occasional LSD or San Pedro once a month or so in between and never felt so clear and happy. But clearly was depending too much. I ran out of mushrooms, had an acid trip that bit my ass, entered a very deep depression and stayed off everything aside from microdosing for about 9 months. I wanted to trip and felt like I needed to many times and I'd even plan days but then talk myself out of it because everything didn't feel perfect enough. I did however get to a place where I'm rather content with my life without psychedelics, but I feel like that is more of a physical thing rather than a spiritual thing. Taking 5-mapb and MDMA with my trips was insanely rejuvenating but now I'm at this weird place where I'm a little sketch of tripping without either of those drugs involved and am just excited for my next flip in 2.5 months and to try ketamine soon.

Side note, I hear some say the 3 month rule is arbitrary. I had periods of abuse years ago to the point where there was no magic but after a 6 year break and taking NAC, these last two rolls so far feel like the first time again. What do yall think about how long periods of abstinence between rolls should be? I feel like 2 months probably shouldn't be an issue but it is such a special thing for me again I'd rather hold off and make next time the best it can be but at the same time I'm skeptical I need to wait so long and tripping/rolling only once every 3 months I don't think is going to give the benefits I'd like to see. If that makes sense. The past 2 times I get closer to where I wanna be but I feel like inspiration sooner than 3 months from now would be beneficial. Not that I need the drugs to improve myself but otherwise I only start to change when I feel like it and who knows when that feeling will resurface.

I'm also assuming the same rules that people follow for MDMA should be applied to 5-mapb. I have a dose or two of 6-apb which I hear some like better while some are skeptical of but I've yet to try it. Psychedelics + 5-mapb + mdma is the fuuuuucking best
 
The concert I was planning on going to got rescheduled. But my friend is gonna come over to chill instead, I'll be splitting my last 300mg of 2fdck with him, and will be giving him the DMT experience for his first time. Excited to see how he enjoys it! I know it's a mind blower I'm sure he'll be prepared for it.
 
Did the rest of my 2fdck last night with my friend and let him blast off about three times, twice with 20mg and the last with 30mg. I only had the courage to do it twice once with 25mg and the second with 40mg. It was awesome. He really loved it so much and was glad I gave him the experience. I had a mind blowing trip on the 40mg so I think that's probably why I held off on doing it the third time. I think 40mg is a good dose for a fairly heavy trip that's not too awfully crazy. Dissolves my mind and reforms it again every single time.
 
deficiT said:
Did the rest of my 2fdck last night with my friend and let him blast off about three times, twice with 20mg and the last with 30mg. I only had the courage to do it twice once with 25mg and the second with 40mg. It was awesome. He really loved it so much and was glad I gave him the experience. I had a mind blowing trip on the 40mg so I think that's probably why I held off on doing it the third time. I think 40mg is a good dose for a fairly heavy trip that's not too awfully crazy. Dissolves my mind and reforms it again every single time.
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Sounds wild. I still need to blast off. Tried many times but could not breakthrough.

What is your preferred method of smoking?
 
Drunk on Kombucha said:
Sounds wild. I still need to blast off. Tried many times but could not breakthrough.

What is your preferred method of smoking?
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So, at first, I was just putting it on top of tobacco and smoking it out of a chillum. It works, but this is not ideal as some of the product gets burnt up and wasted.

What I do now that works a lot better, is use an oil burner (meth pipe) and use a torch to vaporize it. This works a lot better and doesn't require as much material.
 
AutoTripper said:
I had intentions of trying DMT myself over 2 years ago but I can't predict how I would react allogenically respiratory wise there is strong probability of no tolerance however minute the inhalation or method.

My plan though was to use a high-quality cannabis extract quartz banger with matching coil and basic controller for precise temperature dab style vaporisation of the DMT.

Failing that I would use a torch to heat the same banger. Less consistent, precise, predictable and efficient in general though.
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I really like the effects of DMT but I have a healthy respect and caution towards taking too much ( a caution I don’t really have with any other drug) ,

And the lack of cross tolerance to LSD makes it very handy some days.

But the taste from smoking it seems so foul to me I avoid it most of the time.
 
Perforated said:
I really like the effects of DMT but I have a healthy respect and caution towards taking too much ( a caution I don’t really have with any other drug) ,

And the lack of cross tolerance to LSD makes it very handy some days.

But the taste from smoking it seems so foul to me I avoid it most of the time.
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You definitely have to respect it because it can administer a psychic ass whooping like nothing else in existence, but it can also bring about some of the most beautiful feelings you've ever felt and be really gentle/beautiful. I'm so happy I have rediscovered it recently and have a decent supply of it. If I ever need to escape and refresh my brain I can take a twenty minute trip to another dimension. It has a certain utility that all other psychedelics are lacking.

I have had a couple trips that have felt like an eternity and that i might die, but without doubt every time I make it back and feel born again.
 
deficiT said:
You definitely have to respect it because it can administer a psychic ass whooping like nothing else in existence, but it can also bring about some of the most beautiful feelings you've ever felt and be really gentle/beautiful. I'm so happy I have rediscovered it recently and have a decent supply of it. If I ever need to escape and refresh my brain I can take a twenty minute trip to another dimension. It has a certain utility that all other psychedelics are lacking.

I have had a couple trips that have felt like an eternity and that i might die, but without doubt every time I make it back and feel born again.
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Yep. The brief duration is a real winner too.
 
Drunk on Kombucha said:
Side note, I hear some say the 3 month rule is arbitrary..
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I know you’re taking about “the magic” with MDMA but I never heard of it being 3 months. I find it an amusing coincidence however that during the period that I most frequently tripped (once every two or 3 weeks for a couple years), my “goal” was to have more self control and trip less, aiming for once per season, or every 3 months. I never really achieved it, until I abruptly went to tripping once or twice, or even none! per year.

DMT is one I should consider. I wrote in another post that I came close to dosing some miprocin but decided against it, partly due to my family due back home. DMT might be perfect for the chunk of time I have available :)
 
for some reason more armed cops have been deployed under "training" in nz cities than anyone has ever witnessed lol. Idk what they uptoo they couldnt even fucking come when i rung them last month to stop these teens stealing and vandalzing cars. Yet they have the time to sit the fuck around playing dress up all day lol.
 
deficiT said:
So, at first, I was just putting it on top of tobacco and smoking it out of a chillum. It works, but this is not ideal as some of the product gets burnt up and wasted.

What I do now that works a lot better, is use an oil burner (meth pipe) and use a torch to vaporize it. This works a lot better and doesn't require as much material.
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The two ways I have tried it are via oil burner and via pancake method with weed. I found the oil burner inefficient but never tried using the torch. I don't smoke weed anymore but my friend said it seems THC can block the effects for some people.

I also had an inaccurate scale at the time and once weighed .1 and threw it in on the pancake. I don't smoke THC weed anymore though the pancake seemed slightly better, but still not enough to get there.

I've been told using a dab rig/e-nail is the best way and that makes sense. I've also been told vaping a liquid mixture can work really well. But I've yet to explore those or acquire the necessary provisions.

The DMT in question I acquired some 3-4 years ago. It was kept room temperature in the dark, do you have any idea if it is still good? I also have some mimosa powder sent to combine with rue seeds for aya but I'm not sure if I can smoke it. Still never tried aya either. Also recieved some NMT goo which sounded like it could potentially be a more pleasant time with rue seeds but I haven't gotten around to any of it
 
porkstock said:
I know you’re taking about “the magic” with MDMA but I never heard of it being 3 months. I find it an amusing coincidence however that during the period that I most frequently tripped (once every two or 3 weeks for a couple years), my “goal” was to have more self control and trip less, aiming for once per season, or every 3 months. I never really achieved it, until I abruptly went to tripping once or twice, or even none! per year.

DMT is one I should consider. I wrote in another post that I came close to dosing some miprocin but decided against it, partly due to my family due back home. DMT might be perfect for the chunk of time I have available :)
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A lot of the info is anecdotal and unreliable I'm sure. When it comes down to purity, dosage, and in frequency of use, I'm sure there are much less issues and when those circumstances are good is the main reason while some never have comedowns while some do.

I may give my next experiment a little less time in between. But we'll see. I get what you mean though about intending to use infrequently but that not actually happening. With psychedelics, I've learned the more time between the better but 2 weeks in between and you'll still have good effects and it won't hurt you. I've just learned not to depend on them like that but with MDMA I cannot really have any such dependency if I hope to still have really good effects. My main intentions are just saving my brain and getting the best effects possible, but I think a 1.5 month break every now and then shouldn't be an issue, but that rolling hard every 1.5 months could lead to some issues
 
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