Mental Health Can you take benzo's every day?

[Rectify]

Yes, You Can Take Benzos Everyday, But For Some, Doing So Proves Disastrous.

 

[mal3volent]

I've taken approximately 4-8mg of lorazepam every other day for at least ten years. I'm prescribed up to 3mg daily , but I've chosen to use it this way for obvious reasons. My "off" days can sometimes be pretty tough emotionally but I don't believe I've ever been physically addicted.

There's no way I could've survived without it. Having to skip days is a small price to pay, in my opinion.

 

[Xorkoth]

Why not take the valium instead?
This is not the first time I heard about a paradoxical reaction to clonazepam, I'm not a fan either tbh.

I also don't care for clonazepam, I don't get paradoxical reactions I just find it extremely subtle even at higher doses. It helps me sleep but barely feels like anything. Doesn't work well for anxiety compared to others, either.

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

Can't always predict, right?

My qualified way of saying that it's less abusable than valium, but seems to pack enough punch to restrain the worst of panic attacks, unlike librium. Valium is kind of weird because active metabolites have very long half-lifes, but it has a duration of action about twice as short as clonazepam. Docs love clonazepam in the states, I'm told.

I tend to think that when people have troublesome anxiety, benzos can liberate them and lead to more energy. My theory anyway. But they are quite crude. Something that directly reduces cortisol and other stressful chemicals is a more advanced way of reducing stress. Benzos are kind of like throwing back in equal force, about as far away from solving the problem as still works to calm people.

I tend to think that therapy while on benzos for more than month or two is less effective than if one were not on meds at all, and possibly close to how therapy can't work if one is addicted.

Really there is a lot out there about how benzos lead to long-term cognitive, neurological, and other health issues overall, really. Even reducing life expectancy, such negatives that it is too close for comfort, for me, like as expected in active addiction again... But hey, they are still being used after a half century of mainstream use, so yeah. Better than barbs for sure, way safer. But still a lot of people with epilepsy are given phenobarbital.

Come to think of it, ativan is probably superior to xanax in some ways. Made me calm, but never really had a body that I would attribute to a buzz or "I'm lifted" sort of feeling.

Weird how herbs of ancient might be superior to modern medicine. I am a big fan of ashwaganda.

 

[Hippy Flower Fairy]

Doesn't work well for anxiety compared to others, either

You know what, I've started thinking in the last couple of days it's not helping my anxiety like it used to, so not only does it make me wired and hyper I get anxious so take vallies ontop

 

[dabman]

i also vote NO! on daily use. unless you are a very strong willed person and do not deviate on how they are prescribed. if they stop working go see your doctor . it's better to have them take it away and give you something else for a while.

tolerance builds unbelievably fast and resets unbelievably slow

 

[JohnBoy2000]

I shot 20 mg ketamine IM two days ago and today I'm almost psychotic.

Ketamine is a downer, right?

Benzos are a downer so they could make me psychotic also?

 

[JohnBoy2000]

your anxiety will get worse on benzos after some time and during withdrawal your anxiety will be fucking unbearable for months because there is nothing which can help you during withdrawal. don't take it at all. I been there and I really can't describe how bad it is and you don't want to find it out by yourself.

If they were dosed every second day, perhaps that would improve tolerance resistance?

 

[JohnBoy2000]

Point I'm really trying to determine is their comparison to zopiclone.

Zopiclone had a personality effect on me that is INTOLERABLE.

They both act on GABA via somewhat similar mechanism (PAM vs agonist?), so their personality outcome is bound to be somewhat similar?

There's a cross tolerance between the two, right?

Indicating there's a distinct pharmaco-similarity in mechanism?

 

[✿Dai₷y✿]

If you work on non benzo methods to manage anxiety and do the boring bs ie therapy, meditation, lifestyle changes then daily use while you are figuring it out should be fine.


Sometimes benzos are needed long term , for severe illnesses and it can't be helped.

Generally speaking though, just use them fucking sparingly or be prepared to have to taper off them eventually .

 

[reb38]

Or are they more so for occasional use?

Noted as having addictive properties but I took zopiclone every day for years and had zero withdrawal.

For daytime

I wouldn't. I've taken .5 klonopin for years and stopped. It's really no good. They give you a "snowed" effect on you according to my doctor. The end game is getting off of them. So no. Don't take them at all. And if you want to play around and get "high" would suggest look elsewhere. And if that's not enough you can't drink alcohol on these unless you want to die.

2 cents.

 

[crazyworld]

If they were dosed every second day, perhaps that would improve tolerance resistance?

withdrawal is much harder than from other drugs so I wouldn't recommend using benzo at all. you will still build tolerance to them even when used every second day. this pills are pure evil.

 

[Shady's Fox]

If you work on non benzo methods to manage anxiety and do the boring bs ie therapy, meditation, lifestyle changes then daily use while you are figuring it out should be fine.


Sometimes benzos are needed long term , for severe illnesses and it can't be helped.

Generally speaking though, just use them fucking sparingly or be prepared to have to taper off them eventually .

This should be a F.A.Q, I said it before I say it now, no changes of course, same trials but if you think that benzos would be like pullin the rabbit outta hat, you're living backwards. You need these

 

[plumbus-nine]

I shot 20 mg ketamine IM two days ago and today I'm almost psychotic.

Ketamine is a downer, right?

Benzos are a downer so they could make me psychotic also?

Ketamine is actually more of a stimulant than a downer, yes huge doses of it cause dissociative anesthesia but for one does it act on other systems like as an NDRI (see e.g. wikipedia) and afaik antagonizing NMDA itself leads to increased output of quite a few transmitter. The reason why ketamine is used in humans is that it's the only anesthetic so far which isn't a depressant and leaves e.g. the breathing reflex (mostly?) intact. It's hard to die off an acute dissociative overdose, I'm a living proof for that.

Benzos as GABA-PositiveAllostericModulators have a pretty low incidence for stuff one might call pseudohallucinations (some get such stuff even w/o drugs during the wakefulness<->sleep transitions), I'd say they could rather have some antipsychotic qualities by quietening the mind. U

Unfortunately seem dissociatives to exacerbate psychotic symptoms in a part of the affected population, at least many papers tell that and I experienced it myself, albeit only DXM was eventually able to induce hallucinations out of the blue after extensive (ab)use; ketamine was selected as one of the less psychotomimetic ones.. are you sure that it was real ketamine (as one can only be with doing an own lab analysis, there's a fuckton of research chemicals going around and dealers exploit the differences in price and potency of course.)?

 

[JohnBoy2000]

are you sure that it was real ketamine (as one can only be with doing an own lab analysis, there's a fuckton of research chemicals going around and dealers exploit the differences in price and potency of course.)?

Half life was exactly as expected, acted as an anesthetic etc.

Plus purchased from an extensively reviewed and trusted supplier?

I didn't wash it but it might be cut with caffeine powder?

 

[Shady's Fox]

You never know whether a thread created by Johnny is troll intended or not, that's I think one of his gifts. the square expansion.

 

[Hippy Flower Fairy]

I shot 20 mg ketamine IM two days ago and today I'm almost psychotic

I had a K binge for about 4 days and it sent me a bit weird and paranoid but benzos don't to me, but my memory is bad lol, soon as I stopped I was fine

 

[Hippy Flower Fairy]

Zopiclone had a personality effect on me that is INTOLERABLE

I can't stand them anymore, they made me depressed as fuck, lost weight which I've still not put on, I even told my doctor take them off my repeat prescription and flushed the 29 zopiclone pills I'd had left from buying to top up the 14 I'd get each month as I'd take a few a night, now I'm back on benzos fucksake

What did zopiclone do to you?

 

[QuietUniverse]

Not really. You'll come unstuck. Ive lost 2 friends to them. One apparently tried to kill himself from them later in life. Another friend of mine robbed a pharmacy for them while on a box of valium. So so so many attempts at rehab he has had. Stay clear of them all together. They are dangerous things.

 

[QuietUniverse]

Not really. You'll come unstuck. Ive lost 2 friends to them. One apparently tried to kill himself from them later in life. Another friend of mine robbed a pharmacy for them while on a box of valium. So so so many attempts at rehab he has had. Stay clear of them all together. They are dangerous things.

i think my friend who robbed the pharmacy even had to get them in a daily program (program for benzo and perscription tablet abusers) from a GP (doctor in Australia) when he needed them genuinley . They can get pretty hectic . Please stay clear of them!