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Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

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i think its pretty normal to resent people who are contributing to the ongoing restrictions and risks. it is known that unvaccinated people flouting rules caused a massive surge in my area, and they are therefore responsible for many deaths. kinda a hateful thing to do.

you can have it and be asymptomatic. that's part of why its such a bastard to contain. so without an antibody test you have no idea whether you're immune or just lucky. given your respiritory problems i'd be very concerned about your prognosis were you to contract covid, so please get vaccinated.
But I did contract it, in September. Like all other infections I’ve come to know well, it spread throughout my entire respiratory system instantly.

I treated it with the same fast effective methods I’ve shared with you, chiefly the Electromedicine plus the essential oils.

I beat down the respiratory virus very quickly and easily to my surprise, I was expecting a harder fight.

I was nowhere near close to death, improving quickly daily. The treatments I use 365 to manage and stay on top of all incoming and outgoing infections, work. On Covid.

It’s not that it was just a mild case. I treated it with the most powerful fast and effective means.

A trace found its way into my nerves. Ive had Long Covid, moving around, since the initial infection, it’s impossible for me to pinpoint target the whole nervous system for direct localised treatments as I do successfully with lungs sinuses and throat.

The Covid was out of my nerves last month and only detected in liver and bladder, I’ve since treated my liver and strongly expect it to be only in my bladder if at all.

The respiratory infection was the easy bit, over in a week, never dying thanks to the artillery at hand.

The Long Covid especially in my nerves which caused nerve damage, and added to the PVFS from overlapping 6 week Flu in January, that has been a bigger impact but not in a fatal sense just an ongoing toll to bear.

But it’s practically out, and as I’m trying to emphasise, no new Covid has been detected in my airways since the initial infection, only the Long Covid working it’s course though the body.

Every new infection I get automatically invades my entire respiratory system, which is why I really must be so observant and proactive about treating aggressively, just for comfort in life really, if I’ll be wiped out by something, it can be any shape asteroid I’m just trying to live more comfortably and heal further.

So it really indicates to me that I have some very good immunity to Covid, not having seen a trace or indication of new infection since September.

This just doesn’t happen to me with infections usually.

So I’m not scared about myself dying from a respiratory Covid infection.

I may be simply immune to it fullstop for we will see how long. But I had that, it was no match for the treatments that give me life quality and really have kept me breathing, literally that’s normally a figure of speech.

And I’m not willing to accept the label of a superspreader, because I’m unvaxxed.

If I have immunity as it genuinely appears, I must have sufficient natural antibodies.

I am at more risk, on paper, in line with as much direct monitored first hand experience of all stages of Covid as anybody here, from vaccine side effects, which are a risk, however we put it it’s fact.

I’m honestly not personally scared of Covid for myself. I never was. From the off. And I was right up until now, and with the apparent immunity acquisition the prognosis is looking promising on that front.

Is that not a fair enough point of view and way of rationalising things?
 
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so based on them both having the same viral load, if there's 8000 positive cases in the little state of Massachusetts, then there's 8000+ vaccinated ppl spreading it around just like unvaccinated ppl

there's an argument for that? :unsure: :LOL:
 


im sorry but 100 plus ppl still dead after getting the shots, that's a lot........does anybody agree with that?
The median age of those who died was 82.5 years.
The deaths represent a tiny fraction — about 0.002 percent — of all fully vaccinated individuals in the state, according to state health officials.


I'm sorry, but how is 0.002% a lot?

The department also reported 395 breakthrough hospitalizations in the state.


395 cases and 100+ died.....well that means there's WAY more breakthrough cases than 395
But it's not 100 dead out of 395 cases? You're just pulling numbers out of context here?

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
The median age of those who died was 82.5 years.
The deaths represent a tiny fraction — about 0.002 percent — of all fully vaccinated individuals in the state, according to state health officials.


I'm sorry, but how is 0.002% a lot?


But it's not 100 dead out of 395 cases? You're just pulling numbers out of context here?

Please correct me if I'm wrong.


well i think it was 395 hospitalized, 100 of them died

it is kind of a lot, for a vaccine compared to not....how many ppl died that weren't vaccinated during the same time?

idk :unsure:
 
well i think it was 395 hospitalized, 100 of them died
No, it wasn't.
it is kind of a lot, for a vaccine compared to not....
No, it isn't. 0.002% is NOT a lot.
how many ppl died that weren't vaccinated during the same time?
How am I supposed to know that? I was commenting on the source you posted, and it said nothing about that.
Did you even read the article you posted?
 


the 7 day average is 2 deaths a week now....

so yea 100 is a lot

:geek:
 
No, it wasn't.
yea it was

"One hundred people who had been fully vaccinated against the coronavirus died from the disease in Massachusetts by the end of July, according to the state Department of Public Health.....

The department also reported 395 breakthrough hospitalizations in the state."


i think you need to read it again lol
 


the 7 day average is 2 deaths a week now....

so yea 100 is a lot

:geek:
I've lost track of the argument.
Are you saying getting the vaccine is more dangerous than catching covid naturally? Or I'd it something else?
Sorry for being dozy
 
yea it was

"One hundred people who had been fully vaccinated against the coronavirus died from the disease in Massachusetts by the end of July, according to the state Department of Public Health.....

The department also reported 395 breakthrough hospitalizations in the state."


i think you need to read it again lol

You're still pulling numbers out of context. How could 100 out of 395 make up 0.002%?



The deaths represent a tiny fraction — about 0.002 percent — of all fully vaccinated individuals in the state, according to state health officials.


“Breakthrough cases in Massachusetts are incredibly low, and those hospitalized or who have died are even lower,” department officials said in a written statement.


The department also reported 395 breakthrough hospitalizations in the state.
 
yea it was
"Massachusetts had seen 9,969 breakthrough cases as of Aug. 7, according to data released by the state’s Department of Public Health. The total number of breakthrough cases increased by 2,232 from the previous week.

About 4,321,931 people in Massachusetts had been fully vaccinated as of Aug. 7, so the breakthrough infections represent 0.23% of individuals who had gotten inoculated.

According to the state, 445 of those 9,969 cases have resulted in hospitalization, representing 0.01% of all fully vaccinated individuals in the state. The number of breakthrough cases that have resulted in death is now at 106, again representing a small fraction — 0.002% — of all fully vaccinated individuals in the state."

"There were 100 breakthrough case deaths by the end of July, and the median age for those who died was 82.5 years old, according to a DPH spokesperson. Of those individuals, 73% were reported to have had underlying conditions that made them vulnerable to severe disease.

By the end of July, there were 395 breakthrough hospitalizations, and 57% of those individuals were reported to have had underlying conditions, according to the state."



I don't know how you do math, but in my book 0.002% is not a lot.

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the 7 day average is 2 deaths a week now....

so yea 100 is a lot

:geek:
And why are you switching from the source you posted, that I commented?

If you're gonna pivot, please - at least try to use some finesse. 🤓
 
You're still pulling numbers out of context. How could 100 out of 395 make up 0.002%?



The deaths represent a tiny fraction — about 0.002 percent — of all fully vaccinated individuals in the state, according to state health officials.


“Breakthrough cases in Massachusetts are incredibly low, and those hospitalized or who have died are even lower,” department officials said in a written statement.


The department also reported 395 breakthrough hospitalizations in the state.
Well the math goes this way;

If five million people got vaccinated and were tracked since, then 0.002% of them would be one hundred people. They died, they had average age 82 and 73% had serious health problems already.

If a hospital group have 395 covid admissions and only 100 die, then the hospital helped 295 seriously ill people to survive.
 
I've lost track of the argument.
Are you saying getting the vaccine is more dangerous than catching covid naturally? Or I'd it something else?
Sorry for being dozy

something else

i am saying the vaccines suck as far transmission of the virus goes but that's about it
 
something else

i am saying the vaccines suck as far transmission of the virus goes but that's about it
Yes, they haven't been claiming the vaccines stop transmission as much as they hope it stops transmission.
They can't say for sure because they don't seem to know all the ways it spreads. If you don't know what is happening then you can't stop it happening.
If vaccines lower case numbers then that lowers mutation rates. That is another hope.
We can't just deal in certainties. I don't trust any politician but I think scientists know what they're doing.
 
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