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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy AL-LAD Thread - Part 3

Trips have been more hit or miss for me as I age. Some are almost like the old days, some just produce nasty physical sides.
I know my organs are older and probably weaker, my brain too, and things like diet and exercise have a more marked effect on my trips than those factors did in my past.
All I know is, when my body is feeling good and I have been eating well, trips can get fractal. But 425 ug would have me floored no matter what.
On any meds at all, maybe interacting/dulling the trip?
 
You went to a bar in Hawaii on 425ug??
I've got no explanation for the visuals, but the rest of the story checks out 100%, that's a big dose
 
425 mics would be at least 10 days of great fun on a month long trip to a mediterranean island for me
 
higherconciousness said:
I don’t know what the issue is but I don’t respond to psychs like I used to. At 425 mics I expected it to be more visual, but all I got was some faint greenish and purplish lines that formed vague little patterns. I used to get crazy defined geometric fractals composed of various bright colors, but now I feel like I can’t get there anymore. I seem to be more prone to confusion as well. I went to this bar in Hawaii while peaking and it was pretty bad. The disorientation was so severe that I forgot how to use my phone. Not sure if it’s because I’m older or my drug addled brain.
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Set and setting among many other variables.

I've eaten at least a few 100 mics before and not had an ego death on LSD. Other times I've eaten less than 200 mics and been scared to lie down for fear of one...Same blotters too.

Anyone had or witnessed a bad trip on AL-LAD?
 
Buzz Lightbeer said:
Yours truly, psychotic a couple months ago. On the more recent blotters, some other guy went psychotic as well on recent ones, suspected hot spots.
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Witnessed the exact same experience. Person was uncontrollable. Never been good on psychedelics since. Have you tripped again since?
 
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Buzz Lightbeer said:
You went to a bar in Hawaii on 425ug??
I've got no explanation for the visuals, but the rest of the story checks out 100%, that's a big dose
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I usually don’t experience much confusion on al-lad but yeah probably not the best choice while peaking. I was fine walking in there but we couldn’t get a spot outside so they placed us right in the busiest section at the bar. The sounds were coming from every direction and I became so disoriented I couldn’t even figure my phone out.
DrumTripper said:
Trips have been more hit or miss for me as I age. Some are almost like the old days, some just produce nasty physical sides.
I know my organs are older and probably weaker, my brain too, and things like diet and exercise have a more marked effect on my trips than those factors did in my past.
All I know is, when my body is feeling good and I have been eating well, trips can get fractal. But 425 ug would have me floored no matter what.
On any meds at all, maybe interacting/dulling the trip?
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It seems every trip I’ve had over the last few years have been pretty disappointing. I experience more of the negative side effects (body load, confusion, dysphoria) and don’t have those amazing insightful experiences accompanied by captivating visuals that leave you astounded. I’m not on any meds that dull the experience so perhaps my overall physiology has changed. I remembered al-lad to be one of the more visual psychs and I thought 400 plus mics should suffice to get me there but I never seem to arrive. Bummer.
 
I did a combo with 375 mics of AL-LAD and 200 mics of ALD 52 the other day and was impressed. My last 3 hit AL-LAD trip was underwhelming. Things I did different this time: quit drinking for a few months, didn't eat before the trip and was extremely well rested. I also stopped doing DMT all the time, I know its not supposed to matter but my last few trips were lacking. This trip had everything, visuals, headspace, euphoria. I guess it was 575 mics total too, which is a lot.
 
I’m going to take some al-lad tomorrow with some E pills. When should I drop the mdma? I’m thinking an hour or so after I take the al-lad. I also have ketamine. Shits about to get weird.
 
@higherconciousness I agree with @PsychedelicSummer - except I'd probably more like 1-2h if it was below 225ug - some of the tabs are hot and you'll be dosing a lot higher that you think, so you might want to make sure this wasn't the case before you throw MDMA on top.

My friends and I had plans to do an AL-flip, and ended up not taking the MDMA when we discovered we were in absolute bonkers land from 1 "150ug" tab each. The idea of putting MDMA on top seemed completely mad.
 
I didn’t take al-lad with mdma last night I just ended up taking mdma (200mg), but I noticed that even mdma doesn’t effect me like it used to. Don’t get me wrong it still produced some pleasant effects, but it’s not what it used to be. I really think my overall brain physiology had changed. I was heavy addict, taking everything under the sun, since I was 15 years old. I’m now 30 with 4 years of being clean and whether I take al-lad or mdma I still can’t reach the state of bliss. The last 4 al-lad trips, anywhere from 300-450 mics, where extremely underwhelming. All I got was subpar visuals (purply greenish lines in my field of vision). Ugh what the hell is happening?
 
I did 0.3 mg yesterday and I fell into the infinity when I was peaking. Is it something that happens every time on such high doses? I was having a great time and then suddenly - BOOM. I'm stuck at someplace that keeps changing but eventually always comes back to a certain visual (that's how I perceived it). And every song I was listening to felt like it matched that loop perfectly. I know it was only an illusion, but man... It wasn't pleasant. And seems to me like it was caused by changes in my brain's mechanism of registering memories - like something happening 5 seconds ago was registered as something that happened 2 hours ago. So I guess such loops are something that is very likely to happen no matter how good or bad the trip is?
 
i have always heard of AL-LAD being quite friendly but for sure with the right dose it can cause those effects i imagine in anyone
 
@aag @Buzz Lightbeer had an intense trip from a high dose not long ago..
As did @higherconciousness

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Tbh Ive never tried it but Im not surprised. It is a lysergamide after all. Id be disappointed if it didnt get fuckity at higher doses lol
If only it werent rare and so expensive these days.
 
Just wanted to report that I tripped with my tripping partner on 300ug each of al-lad which was several years old and the tabs have turned dark grey but we both tripped pretty well so I don't believe they have degraded much....though next time I'd go with 450ug.
My ETH-LAD has also tuned slightly gray but not nearly as much.....these were all kept in an extremely cold cold storage facility in air tight containers with dessicants so I don't think they'll last 10 years or more ....my 1p-lsd and ald-52 look just like day I got em in the mail.
 
I took AL Lad twice. 300 ug 1st, was already on other Lysergamides but I noticed it fully for its unique, light sparky colourful character.

The tabs had yellowed significantly. No noticeable loss.

These things really are so damn stable for a long time really. Much more than is even still often regarded.
 
After the news that ETH-LAD is a full-agonist (vs. LSD being a partial agonist) on the 5ht2a serotonin receptor, I suspect that AL-LAD is also a stronger agonist than LSD on 5ht2a. AL-LAD must have lower binding affinity, but higher agonism. This would explain why AL-LAD has a higher effective dose than LSD, yet seems to get more into bonkers-land as the dosage goes up. When you ramp up the dosage of LSD, it saturates more readily, whereas ETH-LAD and AL-LAD seem to lack this ceiling, and have the potential to become more powerful as the dosage scales up.
 
How’s the redosing timeline with this one folks? I am a little leery of just munching the whole tab I have pulled off the strip. Can I dose half then the other half in ~2 hours to judge potency? My trip sitter is just my tiny wife and don’t want to go psychotic or anything from a hotspot
 
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