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Have you found happiness in drug use?
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Ketamania
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Only in the beginning. Drugs is truly a “chasing the dragon” type of thing. Nothing will compare to your first high. Or in the case of psychedelics, after doing them for so long you eventually get bored of the “lessons”. After time, it just becomes a rat race of money and compromising relationships. We always try to recreate the first high, and it never happens.
I still like MDMA/acid/opioids/ketamine, but nothing compares to that first time. It’s just not the same and not *as* fun.
I still like MDMA/acid/opioids/ketamine, but nothing compares to that first time. It’s just not the same and not *as* fun.
It's still the same for me. Just the set and setting is different.
TheUltimateFixx
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Absolutely. Well overwhelming pleasure at any rate. Also relief from overwhelming pain, which to me counts as a form of happiness too.
Some of the most emotionally intimate times and closest connection to another human being I get is when using together with my best friend. It's a beautiful experience for me, we just flop on the couch sitting shoulder to shoulder or even having a bit of a cuddle and just feel our own and each other's sense of well-being; sometimes have the kind of extra personal conversations that are difficult to do stone - cold sober, specially when you're a guy ;yet being under the influence somehow helps dissolve those internal barriers.
And I'm generally lonely so yeah, this makes me happy.
.... Not claiming it's all been good 'cause I also went right off the deep end one time, but that was on me. You takes your choice and you pays your price.
Some of the most emotionally intimate times and closest connection to another human being I get is when using together with my best friend. It's a beautiful experience for me, we just flop on the couch sitting shoulder to shoulder or even having a bit of a cuddle and just feel our own and each other's sense of well-being; sometimes have the kind of extra personal conversations that are difficult to do stone - cold sober, specially when you're a guy ;yet being under the influence somehow helps dissolve those internal barriers.
And I'm generally lonely so yeah, this makes me happy.
.... Not claiming it's all been good 'cause I also went right off the deep end one time, but that was on me. You takes your choice and you pays your price.
Nurse Ratched
Bluelight Crew
Same
F.U.B.A.R.
Bluelight Crew
Drugs don't provide happiness.
At best, they only alleviate the pain from being a miserable bastard...
At best, they only alleviate the pain from being a miserable bastard...
TheUltimateFixx
Bluelighter
I kinda had that experience with alcohol (which I was putting away by the cartload for several years). For some reason I was convinced it would make my bad moods magically better. Somehow completely managed to ignore the many times that I drank to 'calm down' when angry and ended up flying into a total rage and smashing things up, and the times that I drank to 'cheer myself up' when sad where I'd find myself suicidally depressed instead and sobbing into my beer. At one point the obvious fact clicked that it doesn't change your mood, it only gets you drunk, and the quality of that experience depends entirely on the mood you STARTED OUT in. So now I only drink when I already feel pretty happy and am much happier for it.
TheUltimateFixx
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I've seen plenty of people that I've done dope with or introduced to it, whose first high simply resulted in nausea and itchiness with zero euphoric effects. And who had to take it several times to feel anything good from it. And once they did, also quite a few who THEN needed a couple MORE takes to go from 'yeah this is rather nice' to 'fuck now I know what all the talk is about'.
From my own individual experience, I WAS in fact one of those people where the first taste just hit me for six and I instantly was like 'oh this is legit the best shit ever on the planet' and I knew I wanted to have more of it there and then.
... And yeah, the NOVELTY factor is the one thing you CANNOT recreate ; just like you can never recapture the novelty factor of your first sexual encounter where about half the excitement is about the mere fact that you're FINALLY doing it.
I've had it as good as that over - romanticized first time, several times.
The thing is it's a lottery. Again, quite like sex in a way. You know sometimes it'll be just perfunctory, most of the time pretty good, and every now and again it'll turn out mind - blowing, you just can't plan or predict when.
Your tolerance has to be low enough, the dope has to be strong enough, and you gotta manage to hit yourself up at JUST the right dosage, which is unfortunately impossible to control because you never know the exact composition.
But when it happens it's ALL THAT. xd
Gotta say that kind of statement never made that much sense to me. And I wonder just to what extent people talk themselves into the 'it'll never get as good as your very first time' thing and therefore set themselves up for that kinda unsatisfying overall experience, just because it gets repeated so often almost like some article of faith.
I've seen plenty of people that I've done dope with or introduced to it, whose first high simply resulted in nausea and itchiness with zero euphoric effects. And who had to take it several times to feel anything good from it. And once they did, also quite a few who THEN needed a couple MORE takes to go from 'yeah this is rather nice' to 'fuck now I know what all the talk is about'.
From my own individual experience, I WAS in fact one of those people where the first taste just hit me for six and I instantly was like 'oh this is legit the best shit ever on the planet' and I knew I wanted to have more of it there and then.
... And yeah, the NOVELTY factor is the one thing you CANNOT recreate ; just like you can never recapture the novelty factor of your first sexual encounter where about half the excitement is about the mere fact that you're FINALLY doing it.
I've had it as good as that over - romanticized first time, several times.
The thing is it's a lottery. Again, quite like sex in a way. You know sometimes it'll be just perfunctory, most of the time pretty good, and every now and again it'll turn out mind - blowing, you just can't plan or predict when.
Your tolerance has to be low enough, the dope has to be strong enough, and you gotta manage to hit yourself up at JUST the right dosage, which is unfortunately impossible to control because you never know the exact composition.
But when it happens it's ALL THAT. xd
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Lawless69
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I dare say 99% of answers will be a big fat NO!!
I cant see anyone seeing happiness in drugs use desperation and having no money. Ive commented before even reading one reply. Im now goin to re read the whole thing
No i may of thought so at that time but theyve never made me truly happy. How ever relaxing in a cliffside pool in August with a Portuguese beach below and the most beautiful of views that with a big fat joint of morracan hash did make me happy and appreciate the moment that bit more
Class A drugs nope
I cant see anyone seeing happiness in drugs use desperation and having no money. Ive commented before even reading one reply. Im now goin to re read the whole thing
No i may of thought so at that time but theyve never made me truly happy. How ever relaxing in a cliffside pool in August with a Portuguese beach below and the most beautiful of views that with a big fat joint of morracan hash did make me happy and appreciate the moment that bit more
Class A drugs nope
I believe drugs to be able to help a very small % of people. I honestly thought i was one of those people, or at least i believed that psychedelics such as mushrooms/lsd and others to be able to give this satisfaction that life is complete...
How wrong i was.
Mushrooms although they gave me this new feeling of being "one" with the world and i stopped smoking weed after it only served me down a slippery slope that all drugs i used could have some benefits.
Years of abuse of mdma, mephedrone, ketamine, benzodiazepines and weed caused me and my anxiety to be worse off and i now realise all of this stemmed from trying mushrooms and enjoying what they did.
So i would say the very small % that try a psychedelic and decide to use that experience into a positive way and dont abuse it can be extremely beneficial.
This is just from experiences. i imagine the same goes for most chemicals though!
How wrong i was.
Mushrooms although they gave me this new feeling of being "one" with the world and i stopped smoking weed after it only served me down a slippery slope that all drugs i used could have some benefits.
Years of abuse of mdma, mephedrone, ketamine, benzodiazepines and weed caused me and my anxiety to be worse off and i now realise all of this stemmed from trying mushrooms and enjoying what they did.
So i would say the very small % that try a psychedelic and decide to use that experience into a positive way and dont abuse it can be extremely beneficial.
This is just from experiences. i imagine the same goes for most chemicals though!
jhjhsdi
Bluelighter
Yes. Albeit temporarily. Extremely odten temporarily lol
TheUltimateFixx
Bluelighter
Agree as far as that goes ; but you're making the common mistake of automatically equating ANY type of use with abuse.
And if you happen to be massively overdoing it , I will 100% guarantee you're trying to escape from something or compensate for something, rather than simply enjoying it for the sake of it. Turning to substances because you 've come to believe they're the magic solution to all of life's ills WILL land you in trouble.
Been there, done that and wiped my sorry arse with the damn T-shirt.
I' ve been both a straight - up user and a mis-user in my life, (in fact I went full circle on it), and I know what makes the difference.
Various drugs absolutely can enhance your life and add to the joy of it ; it all depends on HOW you're using and WHY.
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TheUltimateFixx
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And isn't that what constitutes the pain of the human condition
Isn't all of happiness temporary?
And isn't that what constitutes the pain of the human condition
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I knew someo would qoute me for using the word abuse******. Totally agree with you though.
I knew someo would qoute me for using the word abuse******. Totally agree with you though.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
Happiness? It is nowhere for me to find. There is something missing from my brains, or there is something missing from this planet, or then there is something missing from them both.
I gave up looking for happiness a long time ago.
I gave up looking for happiness a long time ago.
I have found temporary relief in most drug use. Happiness and moments of joy in the psychedelic realm. The rest are just ways to put off pain and suffering.
Survival0200
Bluelighter
I have anxiety, so taking benzos/opiates/alcohol makes me feel "normal". So, yes, I've found happiness in drug use.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
Like others, I think the overwhelming majority will say yes- but only slivers, shards, moments here and there. Sometimes maybe a whole day if you have enough drugs.
But overall hell no. Demons wrought.
But overall hell no. Demons wrought.
Lawless69
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Me too mate. And admittedly when that warm benzo blanket Feelin runs through your spine taking all you're anxiety away like it never existed. This makes me feel happy, but its a temporary relief!
Do you not find your anxiety seems to come back with a vengeance after day or weeks of numbing it with benzos?
Maybe that's just me...