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Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

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Xorkoth said:
In America people there have been something like 5000 breakthrough deaths, of course that is out of a whole lot of people, and is much less than non-vaccinated deaths. The rate of hospitalization is also far, far less. No vaccine has ever been 100% effective though. The reason we wiped out polio and smallpox and others is because basically everyone got vaccinated, and we achieved herd immunity. It's not because it was 100% effective against the diseases. I'm pretty sure people were way more eager to get those vaccines, since those diseases are orders of magnitude more deadly than covid.
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if you vaccinated 100% of ppl, guess what - it's not the end like it was with smallpox....you didn't still catch smallpox once you got the shot like you do with covid - so bad comparison there
 
nope - i don't believe the CDC much either....if i did, i'd be running to go get my covid shots, which im not - so yea - fuck the CDC
 
@Mr. Krinkle

So you're just going to ignore all available science in favour of - what - common sense? Should we do that with all fields of science? Is all medical science nonsense, or just vaccine stuff?
 
birdup.snaildown said:
@Mr. Krinkle

So you're just going to ignore all available science in favour of - what - common sense? Should we do that with all fields of science? Is all medical science nonsense, or just vaccine stuff?
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no im just ignoring what the cdc says about flu shots...ive been watching that bullshit go on for years and can draw my own conclusion on that one

flu shot = garbage 🗑️
 
do you guys remember last summer when they were pushing the flu shot because they were saying the winter was gonna be the worst in history?

yea how did that go? there was like 2 cases of the flu last year lol
 
Who do you think is more biased (and why): Physicians For Informed Consent or the CDC?

Do you think the measles vaccine has saved a significant number of lives?

The number of measles-related deaths has decreased 79% from 546 800 at the beginning of the century to 114 900 in 2014. New data released by WHO for the Measles & Rubella Initiative, estimates that 17.1 million lives have been saved since 2000, largely due to increased vaccination coverage against this highly contagious viral disease.
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Measles vaccination has saved an estimated 17.1 million lives since 2000

The number of measles-related deaths has decreased 79% from 546 800 at the beginning of the century to 114 900 in 2014. New data released by WHO for the Measles & Rubella Initiative, estimates that 17.1 million lives have been saved since 2000, largely due to increased vaccination coverage...
www.who.int www.who.int
 
There is a report in the news today that American’s life expectancy is now at the lowest point since the 1940’s.

Probably nothing to do with Covid.
 
birdup.snaildown said:
Who do you think is more biased (and why): Physicians For Informed Consent or the CDC?

Do you think the measles vaccine has saved a significant number of lives?



Measles vaccination has saved an estimated 17.1 million lives since 2000

The number of measles-related deaths has decreased 79% from 546 800 at the beginning of the century to 114 900 in 2014. New data released by WHO for the Measles & Rubella Initiative, estimates that 17.1 million lives have been saved since 2000, largely due to increased vaccination coverage...
www.who.int www.who.int
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you're telling me that i changed the argument, which i never changed from stating that the flu shot = garbage, but here you are, changing the argument from flu shots to measles shots

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It's not at the lowest point since the 1940's. It's been rising steadly since the 40s, so that doesn't make sense unless it suddenly dropped back to WW2 levels... which it hasn't. I don't know what article you read but I saw something about it dropping the most in a year since the war which makes sense to me. Of course it's COVID related. Best guess so far: the excess deaths in the US are somewhere in the vicinity of +10/+20% for 2020. That's huge.

Life expectancy is 15 years higher than the 1940s.
 
yea i can't see the 1940s having a longer life expectancy than now....there was a war back then if ya remember!
 
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