Covid-19 Outbreak of new SARS-like coronavirus (Covid-19)

[birdup.snaildown]

I think you guys should start by not calling anybody who question the current menu of shots available "anti-vaxxers" because that's where you start off on the wrong foot..

Agreed.
I was just using the term that @chinup used.
It's her fault.

I'm not a lefty.
I'm right of centre.
You leave me the fuck out of this!

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

I think you guys should start by not calling anybody who question the current menu of shots available "anti-vaxxers" because that's where you start off on the wrong foot....and then you try to lump them all in as "conspiracy theorists" and blah blah generalizations, even tho, you're all cnn lefties and god forbid if i say something that you perceive as "racist" and what-not so yea fuck you motherfuckers too....and that's why it's so divided because there's so much of that going on

Is the irony on purpose? Having a bad day today I think, hope you're ok

Come on man, nuance ffs, you are much better than this

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

Is the irony on purpose? Having a bad day today I think, hope you're ok

Come on man, nuance ffs, you are much better than this

yes that was on purpose....it's ok when it's thrown in my direction, but then im wrong when im saying the same shit right...

im not having a bad day

are you? not that i care

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

Thanks, am not having the best day tbh and feeling a bit left out that you haven't told me to get fucked like everyone else

cos that doesn't promote division at all eh

 

[AutoTripper]

Dude, you have no idea about my belief system, but you assume to do so . If we met socially we'd likely get on like a house on fire

It's likely I'm as anti-authority as you are, possibly much, much more so.

Am merely pointing out that you keep posting propaganda everywhere after you railed against it.

It doesn't matter to anyone reading and affected by the nonsense if you intended it or otherwise. I'm leaving it there.

To be fair, you have reacted to my belief system and certain views as if you can’t get your head around it, so I naturally assumed there may be some incongruities. I’m not making any grand judgements or looking to divide.

But I wasn’t addressing that statement towards you, I guess it was more defensive, and general.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

Thanks, am not having the best day tbh and feeling a bit left out that you haven't told me to get fucked like everyone else

cos that doesn't promote division at all eh

well i kinda like you sometimes

why would i tell you to get fucked? im not really telling everybody to get fucked....this is just me blah blahin....do i need to reel it in a little? my bad

 

[AutoTripper]

well i kinda like you sometimes

why would i tell you to get fucked? im not really telling everybody to get fucked....this is just me blah blahin....do i need to reel it in a little? my bad

Yeah man, people have got feelings you know.

Make your point, but insult not I say. I expect somebody will call me out call me a hypocrite on that too lol.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

To be fair, you have reacted to my belief system and certain views as if you can’t get your head around it, so I naturally assumed there may be some incongruities. I’m not making any grand judgements or looking to divide.

But I wasn’t addressing that statement towards you, I guess it was more defensive, and general.

dude he's a condescending douchebag sometimes and then his asshole puckers up when you let him know about it

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

Yeah man, people have got feelings you know.

Make your point, but insult not I say. I expect somebody will call me out call me a hypocrite on that too lol.

I'll just stick to the propaganda hypocrisy alerts

Edit - much love (puckers up asshole...)

 

[AutoTripper]

dude he's a condescending douchebag sometimes and then his asshole puckers up when you let him know about it

I try and respect all. I’m not so aloof I think I’m enlightened, just another man. I’m open to a reality check.

I’m open to changing my beliefs, given adequate persuasion or I hate to say what we demand as “evidence” lol.

But I can’t just abandon my beliefs. And I’m not talking about being a flamingo.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

I try and respect all. I’m not so aloof I think I’m enlightened, just another man. I’m open to a reality check.

I’m open to changing my beliefs, given adequate persuasion or I hate to say what we demand as “evidence” lol.

But I can’t just abandon my beliefs. And I’m not talking about being a flamingo.

i gotcha man....im just bustin his chops

i'll tell ya what tho, im open to changing my thoughts, which i frequently do......

but if a free donut hasn't convinced me to bypass my liver with an experimental gene therapy shot for an illness that i MIGHT catch, and if i do, most likely end up asymtomatic or with a mild illness, im not too sure what else will convince me


and if it's raging like everybody claims it is, where's all the illnesses coming from in these packed stadiums for nba and nhl games? some of them are letting in unvaccinated ppl ya know

 

[AutoTripper]

i gotcha man....im just bustin his chops

i'll tell ya what tho, im open to changing my thoughts, which i frequently do......

but if a free donut hasn't convinced me to bypass my liver with an experimental gene therapy shot for an illness that i MIGHT catch, and if i do, most likely end up asymtomatic or with a mild illness, im not too sure what else will convince me


and if it's raging like everybody claims it is, where's all the illnesses coming from in these packed stadiums for nba and nhl games? some of them are letting in unvaccinated ppl ya know

You are much more objective than I, I do actually look up to you as a sounding board, you must have some years of wisdom on me I feel.

My street cred….not so good.

I genuinely care about people though. One thing nobody could ever (convict) me of, is ill-meaning towards another, even my worst enemies.


Okay, I’m in a glass house again with that one shit! So I laughed and spat on Hancock’s career grave. But in my strong feeling, belief, he’s an evil man, hellbent on deceiving the populace with the grimmest smile too (now wiped lol).

I see him as the enemy of the people I genuinely, actually care about. But I don’t wish for any suffering for him or punishment simply for him to be stopped from doing harm.

My neighbours, friends, all people here the same. (Like I genuinely care about).

However fiery and protestry I get. Like I say, I really throw stones from a glass house like few members here, hence poor cred.

Knowing there will be a return, with no solid defence, in this crazy world.

 

[finitelifeform]

The labels when used like they are currently lead to division. It is purely political and when it is, being aware of the fact that someone is pulling the strings to ensure a particular political outcome, is necessary for being conscious and aware of their actions and whether they are being influenced by such string pulling.

What disturbs me the most is how so many people have been complicit. To me I see it as burning your own neighbourhood down. It is the worst and most destructive form of self sabotage and mutiliation there is. Its like witnessing endless amounts of people self harming and then for society to promote this as beneficial to the health and wellbeing of society.

And because it obviously isnt, we are at this point where you have one side fighting for self harm not to be normalized in society as a healthy encouraged behaviour. On the other I find you have those that want to take that blade and do untold amounts of damage to themselves. Worse still, its the other sides fault that they have self harmed and the only way we can all get along is if we all self harm and live in a world where destroying ourselves and having a grounding in a healthy, stable and conducive state of being doesnt exist

Its much like a psychedelic trip that has become uncontrollable. And because this problem is seaping out from all areas of society, there is plenty of oppurtinity to keep dosing yourself back up. People have gotten so used to living in this darkness they are seeking to preserve this state of being despite it being like a drug addiction/experience that has spiralled out of control. Until you come down and stay down for long enough, you dont see the damage you have caused yourself and potentially others too.

I feel for both sides of the argument. You cannot discredit either side. Those wanting to keep this going have their own needs that are not being met. Likewise and on the other side among those who want this to end, their needs are not being met. People have to come together and remember that this only get resolved when that conversation happens where both sides sit down and etch out their experiences and then their needs and seek to find a way to mutually end this for both parties.

You cant keep going on like this expecting there to be a day when it all goes back to normal. By taking the control and responsibility away from ourselves as members of our societies, we are putting those important aspects into the hands of someone/something else. It is obvious whoever/whatever that is has no intentions to mediate this conflict. Why? That is politics for you. It ends when the narrative no longer serves the authority of which created it, and then people can get along. What if that isnt good enough?

In that case, people need to come together and talk about what they truly seek from all of this. I think when the politics dissppears and people get back to being people, what you will inevitably find is that people want the same things even if they are expressed in different ways. When you take everything away, deep down everybody wants to return to normal.

How do we go about doing that? Maybe its time to put away the political strategies and start reading from within ourselves as human beings.

 

[AutoTripper]

Its much like a psychedelic trip that has become uncontrollable.

Except, the remarkable and forgiving nature of such events, in many cases the outcome can be a positive one.

I always saw it as temporary upheaval, before release.

There are exceptions obviously but the final outcome is mostly positive, or at least recoverable at a later date.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

if the odds are, for a fairly healthy person, that there's a positive outcome when catching covid, then why should i focus on the very slim chance of a negative outcome, and then chase that slim chance with an injection that also has a slim chance to cause a negative outcome on a healthy person, as we're finding out some negative outcomes on the fly within the population....i'd just rather not be a part of that experiment and take those chances when my chances are already pretty good

 

[Fire&Water]

Because unfortunately most people that follow the Lamestream media are convinced "we're" going to kill their grandparents ...

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

Because unfortunately most people that follow the Lamestream media are convinced we're going to kill their grandparents ...

I find it hard to take anyone remotely seriously when they use language like Lamestream, Plandemic etc

That may well be to do with my own prejudices of course (yeah, we all have them), but there it is, no offence (and yes I do think media is fucked etc...)

 

[aemetha]

if the odds are, for a fairly healthy person, that there's a positive outcome when catching covid, then why should i focus on the very slim chance of a negative outcome, and then chase that slim chance with an injection that also has a slim chance to cause a negative outcome on a healthy person, as we're finding out some negative outcomes on the fly within the population....i'd just rather not be a part of that experiment and take those chances when my chances are already pretty good

Because unfortunately most people that follow the Lamestream media are convinced we're going to kill their grandparents ...

Because when you are hit by a drunk driver and go to the hospital, they triage you and decide not to attempt to save your life because it's a lot of work and everyone is tied up dealing with the large number of covid patients that have overwhelmed the hospital system.

It's just not as simply as saying "I'm young and healthy so I don't need it" because you get people who are at risk also saying similar things. From the very outset the controls - social distancing, mask wearing, vaccines have been geared at making sure the hospital system can cope and continue to operate effectively.

 

[Fire&Water]

I find it hard to take anyone remotely seriously when they use language like Lamestream, Plandemic etc

That may well be to do with my own prejudices of course (yeah, we all have them), but there it is, no offence (and yes I do think media is fucked etc...)

Unfortunately (again) it is way more fitting than the term they coined themselves

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

Unfortunately (again) it is way more fitting than the term they coined themselves

Well, it's definitely lame