Sex in public

[bingey]

Yah I had this recurring thing of wanking outside when in psychosis

And one time a gf gave me a handjob in the park while walking around some old geezer saw us the look on his face I will never forget.

 

[Jabberwocky]

When I was a teenager I woke up on a beach once at dawn and 5 meters away a guy I’d never seen before was pounding his girlfriend full throttle.

I locked eyes with him accidentally and he yelled over to me “Wakey. Wakey. Hands of Snakey” and just laughed like a maniac.

I always wondered if that was my first encounter with a Tweaker. I’ll never forget it.

 

[iridescentblack]

Even in an ideal world where nobody has sexual wounds, I don't like this idea... but I can't quite pinpoint why. I mean, shitting is normal too but we mostly conceal that from one another. Even in the poor countries I've been to, people try their best to partition things off, and if they can't it's only because they're too poor to build structures. Most people prefer to shit in private. Just like most people prefer to have sex in private.

What say you?

I have to focus on this last bit to make a point known. Your partner seems/seemed to have an interesting idea and I think it goes without say that it makes for excellent discussion.

However, I've noticed throughout every other bit you said, I couldn't help but read between the lines - and not for sake of taking things out of context, but -because I was reminded of a dark empath I knew who always made it a point to make his sexual endeavors a public thing- I was under the assumption that certain people would prefer sex to be public for the wrong reasons. It seems to me certain troglodytes would prefer to have their normal life underground and their sexual life to be an exposé.

I guess in a way I feel like sex is kind of like a play, musical, or artistic performance for some and others who are antisocial seem to use it as a weapon of sorts...

 

[Joey]

I have to focus on this last bit to make a point known. Your partner seems/seemed to have an interesting idea and I think it goes without say that it makes for excellent discussion.

However, I've noticed throughout every other bit you said, I couldn't help but read between the lines - and not for sake of taking things out of context, but -because I was reminded of a dark empath I knew who always made it a point to make his sexual endeavors a public thing- I was under the assumption that certain people would prefer sex to be public for the wrong reasons. It seems to me certain troglodytes would prefer to have their normal life underground and their sexual life to be an exposé.

I guess in a way I feel like sex is kind of like a play, musical, or artistic performance for some and others who are antisocial seem to use it as a weapon of sorts...

Exhibitionists are far more likely to be sex offenders. Its not a rule of thumb but something to keep in mind. That person does sound dark, but why do you say an empath? It sounds like he is the opposite. Psychopaths can be really charming and "into" people as well.

Sometimes its just kink. Sometimes its criminal.

 

[iridescentblack]

The term dark empath wasn't intended to be a misnomer, I'm pretty sure. The term implies that a person understands emotional behaviors or emotions in general quite well, but usually in others. I prefer the term Machiavellianism when describing those sorts, because they're often scheming. It seems what they apparently do is try to live their emotions through other people instead of understanding their own. Often their efforts are intended to be so crass that the victim's blood will start to boil to the point of an apparent meltdown. As soon as this starts to occur, though, the perpetrator will suddenly become conveniently calm as if they've done nothing wrong.

I had a neighbor like this. At any point if I got close to reminding him to turn his obnoxious stereo system down, or calling the authorities or whatever else, he would almost magically find a way to diffuse the tension. Seems paranoid to suggest it, but I kinda feel like he knew what was going on in my mind. Then again, some bullies do use mind powers so it's not entirely far-fetched.

 

[tubgirl.jpg]

Without the fear of repercussions, it'd just be work to fuck outside. It's that tinge that makes it worthwhile.

@iridescentblack Machiavellism is easiest summed up with "the means justifies the end".
It's not about living their emotions through others, but to identify others emotions and make those emotions either work in their favor.
They commit their underhand schemes without those involved usually ever knowing what or if anything has happened.
To manipulate just to antagonize seems more like the narcissists gameplay.
If there's nothing to gain, the manipulation/scheme isn't executed.

 

[Joey]

The term dark empath wasn't intended to be a misnomer, I'm pretty sure. The term implies that a person understands emotional behaviors or emotions in general quite well, but usually in others. I prefer the term Machiavellianism when describing those sorts, because they're often scheming. It seems what they apparently do is try to live their emotions through other people instead of understanding their own. Often their efforts are intended to be so crass that the victim's blood will start to boil to the point of an apparent meltdown. As soon as this starts to occur, though, the perpetrator will suddenly become conveniently calm as if they've done nothing wrong.

I had a neighbor like this. At any point if I got close to reminding him to turn his obnoxious stereo system down, or calling the authorities or whatever else, he would almost magically find a way to diffuse the tension. Seems paranoid to suggest it, but I kinda feel like he knew what was going on in my mind. Then again, some bullies do use mind powers so it's not entirely far-fetched.

I had a friend who was a sociopath who once ran me through exactly how he got me to take him to the bar one night. I didnt want to drink but I wound up buying like 6 rounds or so. Then he wasnt done so he convinced me into a few more and we got wasted. Doubles I think.

He explained to me how he read my microexpressions to manipulate me. He said he wanted to show me how. I never went through witu that although I did wind up learning some of the subject as a morbid curiousity. That and etymology which he was always onto because "words mean everything". He was a really callous, twisted, machiavellianist type of person and a sociopath. Very smart. I was under his spell for like 6 years though. Its the reason why I turned to crystal as a fullblown addiction. Because he didnt do it so much.

He was at my place all the time costing me money (i used to have a csreer in cnc machining) and stealing from me. Its how I coped and by the time I got him out I was fullblown, as I said. Its fucked up. This was 4 yeats ago.

 

[iridescentblack]

It's not about living their emotions through others, but to identify others emotions and make those emotions either work in their favor.

I'm quite confident certain bullies do use mind powers though.

They commit their underhand schemes without those involved usually ever knowing what or if anything has happened.

This speaks legends to me. Apparently the guy had this one well under his belt.

To manipulate just to antagonize seems more like the narcissists gameplay.
If there's nothing to gain, the manipulation/scheme isn't executed.

This wasn't solely for the sake of antagonism. and it seemed to me like he would have more to lose if anything. I wasn't the first resident he had done this too, I found out. The management was sloppy at dealing with his underhanded threats. They ill advised me to resort to calling the cops; they were too busy and afraid to deal with him. Somehow they never kicked him out though. When the management started to turn on me in the end, I realized they had been seduced by his psychopathic charming as well.

One night I guess he finally almost did blow up- himself - which is something he preferred his victims to do. He tried to break my door down. I would have gutted him like a fish that night but as soon as I looked through the peep hole, his girlfriend was between him and the door!

Next thing I knew something came to mind after I 'felt assured he was gone'. I made it a point to escape, and sure enough the feeling I felt was the wrong one. He was ready to intercept me before I could get to the exit to go outside. And yet again, he had manipulated his girlfriend to ascend the stairs to try and seduce me with her attempt at sweet talk.

Later I found out that bullies who use some kind of mind power will often use what is called telepathic suggestion to get people into situations ^ like that. Like how they say with the bad guys in television shows 'they often seem to be at least one step ahead of their victims'.

I had a friend who was a sociopath who once ran me through exactly how he got me to take him to the bar one night. I didnt want to drink but I wound up buying like 6 rounds or so. Then he wasnt done so he convinced me into a few more and we got wasted. Doubles I think.

He explained to me how he read my microexpressions to manipulate me. He said he wanted to show me how. I never went through witu that although I did wind up learning some of the subject as a morbid curiousity. That and etymology which he was always onto because "words mean everything". He was a really callous, twisted, machiavellianist type of person and a sociopath. Very smart. I was under his spell for like 6 years though. Its the reason why I turned to crystal as a fullblown addiction. Because he didnt do it so much.

He was at my place all the time costing me money (i used to have a csreer in cnc machining) and stealing from me. Its how I coped and by the time I got him out I was fullblown, as I said. Its fucked up. This was 4 yeats ago.

Sounds a lot like a situation I was in where a very persistent and lonely sociopath tried to make a friend of me due to his tendency to grow bored if someone wasn't watching him constantly. But in my case, it was alcoholism.

 

[tubgirl.jpg]

@iridescentblack I don't doubt bullies uses manipulation as well - at all - what I mean to highlight was just that Machiavellism is a term that is used to describe a different intent all together. A bully enjoys tormenting others and likes the trepidation he/she instills in its victim. A Machiavellian doesn't share this psychology and takes no pleasure in sadistic pastime.
They predict behavior based on models from observations and their uncanny ability to read emotions - being "one step ahead" of their victim at all times.

The term 'Machiavellian' is however used more broadly, especially in pop-culture, to anybody who's scheming and know the art of manipulation.
That is not, however, what that term really implies.



But Jesus Christ, that person seems to suffer from some kind mood/personality disorder.
I'm glad you weren't hurt. What an unhinged motherf*cker.

 

[Foreigner]

I think there are too many social ills in our society for this to really work. Adult theme parks, sure. The argument to protect children is valid, but is the low-hanging fruit of this discussion. Let's put aside children because we all agree on that. Let's talk about just adults.

There are many ways to have sex, some are vanilla, some are aggressive. Some are downright violent. So we let people have sex in public... what kind of sex? Sex isn't the same as other activities because it is one person "using" (for lack of a better word) another person's body. I don't care if it's mutual. It's body-on-body stuff. I'm not even a big fan of people making out in public. I rarely see it in my part of the world and I live in pretty progressive area.

I also think about the energetic consequences of this. When I have sex, my energy body is wide open and I'm connecting with another person's energy. Whether other people realize it or not, they are doing the same thing, even if it's just a carnal act for them. I don't want to be around other people's messy sexual energy.

I used to attend a gay men's gathering called the Radical Faeries, in the United States. We'd be sitting around the campfire and then two people would start making out. Then 10 minutes later it would turn into 10 men jerking off together. I heard a story recently about a guy who got fucked by his boyfriend around one of those fires, and then it turned into a gang bang with 8 different guys banging him in a line. He said it was super fun, hot and exciting. I don't think it's healthy. Regardless, what if there were people there who didn't want to be exposed to that kind of energy? What if they were just there to enjoy the fire?

I think these public desires mostly serve men who have kinky interests. The majority of people aren't into public sex and view it as abhorrent. And I think this is because of a basic, unspoken-about principle that sex acts require containment, because there is a great deal of vulnerability in them. It's vulnerable to be in them and it's vulnerable to witness them. Our sexual tastes are complicated, personal, and have history. Sex and violence have this in common. Even witnessing violence affects our psyche. So does sex.

There's a reason why public spaces are relatively neutral. We don't see people having relationship fights in public usually. If they are, then those people have shitty boundaries. Most people take their fights elsewhere because people don't want to hear that shit.

This may be while I am okay with nudity but not with sex. Nudity is just a body existing in space. It's not sexual. But sex is an act that has consequences. At Burning Man I visited the tent where hundreds of people are having sex at the same time. Good for them... but I am glad that's not the norm. It's messy energy, unhygienic and frankly I don't want to see that kind of grotesquery. .

 

[axe battler]

Sex in public is great fun. Me and an ex years ago got caught in the woods by some teen-agers. Think they were trying to watch without getting caught by us tbh. We were in a secluded place, no exhibition involved.
On 1p-lsd next to a pig field was actually ironically one of the most beautiful and connected sexual experiences of my life. It was the day after my late partner accepted my marriage proposal. Ah god I miss her more than words can ever express.

 

[Joey]

Sex in public is great fun. Me and an ex years ago got caught in the woods by some teen-agers. Think they were trying to watch without getting caught by us tbh. We were in a secluded place, no exhibition involved.
On 1p-lsd next to a pig field was actually ironically one of the most beautiful and connected sexual experiences of my life. It was the day after my late partner accepted my marriage proposal. Ah god I miss her more than words can ever express.

I'm sorry to hear that. I'd be crushed if any of my partners had died. I still would be. I tend to remain friends with them afterward.

 

[Sweetpoison]

Public sec can be great fun if done tastfully. Hiding on the trees or in a theater or the dressing room or aisle of a store. The prospect of being caught and/or watched gets me.
However the thought of kids catching me does make me think about where i have my fun and chose to be tactful if not responsible

 

[Oralcummers]

I

I think it'd be fun, like out in the snow making snowmen or whatever. Of course an open meadow would be nice too, hehe

Was introduced to pegging during the winter months and found a Dame who was in the same highness as myself and she saw all my sex toys and then the belt, she put it on and grabbed a few and told me to bring the astroglide , we went to a playground and she bent me over backwards and pummeled my hole really hot and well , we got so carried away that we made a pit in the snow drift so no one saw us, I told her more lube and she just applied it and then a handful of snow with a smack on the ass it hit it's mark going inside and then I was over my head with knees next to my ears! She kept pumping and filling me with snow as we hit on a pezel to keep warmth and the snow melted more and more , she reamed my hole for 7 hours and I can say I will never do it in the snow, my Innards were numb and I had to use a vibrator for 2 hours in high to get the feeling back so I didn't have accidents when I was walking home ,.my prostate and sphincter muscles had no feelings for almost a day , but thank you for pegging me it was all worth the wait!!!!

 

[Joey]

I

Was introduced to pegging during the winter months and found a Dame who was in the same highness as myself and she saw all my sex toys and then the belt, she put it on and grabbed a few and told me to bring the astroglide , we went to a playground and she bent me over backwards and pummeled my hole really hot and well , we got so carried away that we made a pit in the snow drift so no one saw us, I told her more lube and she just applied it and then a handful of snow with a smack on the ass it hit it's mark going inside and then I was over my head with knees next to my ears! She kept pumping and filling me with snow as we hit on a pezel to keep warmth and the snow melted more and more , she reamed my hole for 7 hours and I can say I will never do it in the snow, my Innards were numb and I had to use a vibrator for 2 hours in high to get the feeling back so I didn't have accidents when I was walking home ,.my prostate and sphincter muscles had no feelings for almost a day , but thank you for pegging me it was all worth the wait!!!!

That is pretty intense! I dont think I could go for it, but then again. Meh.

My first time douching was a pretty different experience. Had to walk from the shower (special tap) which was set off the kitchen for whatever reason, across two rooms to the washroom. I wasnt exactly worried (too much) then but man that would be horrible after a snowcone!

 

[Lokanski]

Heaps. I spent my formative tweaker years fully immersed with the tweaking transbabes. And having done my best to find the limits of chemsex deviancy many times I can say only the tweaking transbabes are unbeatable and unstoppable. Your regular Asian sex worker, suburban housewife, or garden variety homosexual stands no chance.

I stumbled on this as I wandered on the forum, but this has sadly been my experience, which ultimately led to my almost complete downfall. I essentially got addicted to chemsex with trans escorts and used it to counter my crippling depression, anxiety and trauma. Eventually it led to more and more intense sex and tweaking sessions, until I ruined my mental and physical health. By the end I had so many traumatic experiences, humiliation and experienced so many degradations that my family had to take me out of the city I lived in, and I moved 1200 km away to small provincial town, without any easy access to drugs or any reasonable partying ts escorts. If not for this I probably would be dead by now, either by suicide or overdose.
Unfortunately some pleasures weren't made for human mind, and nothing can compare to night long sex marathons I experienced with trans women, where no barriers or limits existed, and pleasure was magnified 100x times. I try to stay sober, but we all know how it is, the call does return every month or so, and although I have been able to fight it off, I relapsed 100 days apart(with very toxic shit, that almost killed me, and with meagre sexual encounter that was both humiliating and disappointing).
Out of my experience, the most intensive sexual partners were trans women from Latin America, but of course everything varies, and there are exceptions.

The deviancy left me with crippling debt, permanent tiredness, depression, breathing difficulties and heart in constant numb physical pain, as well breathing difficulties.

The thing is I can't return to normal sex anymore, it seems so boring and plain to me, like eating tasteless sawdust pulp for food. At the same time, my body is now weak and I am very overweight. To have these marathons, you either have to be young or athlete, otherwise they will hurt or even kill you....

 

[December Flower]

The problem with "what if"s is that they're not.

 

[Antiprosynthesis]

I have some experience with sex in public, dont really know if actually anyone ever saw us...

I have some exhebisionist tendencies tbh, the most I get into this is making my own sex clips with my gf and sending them to porn sites...

No, I dont think sex in public should be legal or become something common.

 

[fastandbulbous]

With my wife, we went to a local dogging spot. Now the doors of the car got locked snd she proceeded to go down on me. It was nice but no fucker turned up.
She did go down on me outside a local rock venue. I remember opening my eyes and seeing this bloke standing, jaw hanging slack and pint in his hand. It looked funny as I was looking at him upside down. I just smiled and closed my eyes. My wife said he left after she stared at him, while getting freaky!

 

[Michael_25]

Yes, back in 2005 in park right next door to a party. It was behind a shrub but, still, passer-bys could still see it happening. It was also the first time I had sex.

Also, around a similar time, I was at work and got the urge so I went into the cubicle and rubbed one out.