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Mr. Krinkle said:
scaremongering my ass

that shit's funny

i know i shouldn't be laughing about 30 billion ppl dying but fuggit :)
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Dude I never say this to anyone but I think you are being highly paranoid and even a bit delusional, no offense. That's not even conjecture that's pure assumption
 
schizoinfective said:
$500. That 30 million people aren't going to die, in fact less than 1-10,000 total
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And Krinkle will post an article for every single one of them plus anyone who so much as sneezes after getting vaccinated, so it will feel like 30 “billion” (Krinkle presumably meant “million”, but who knows how many people he thinks live on our flat earth? 😄).
 
Whatever happens, is right, left, square, red or blue, Rudolph Steiner DID say that shit. He proposed it. I doubt very much he was joking, and I also doubt he was being a cunning scaremongerer either.

I certainly wouldn’t accept that label for myself. Caremongerer maybe. As a scaremongerer has bad intentions generally by definition.

We are making big assumptions here, taking much for granted. Like- nah, no way could the body and brain be manipulated or altered in such a way with any form of technology, (infants we are really talking about here as per the quote, before they have had a chance to develop anything), that it somehow blocks a certain nature or level of consciousness from developing.

Fluoride. Innocent thing, good for our teeth? First ever added to public water supplies by none other than Adolph, back then to dumb down the masses.

Campaigned against globally since, mainstream science insisting thorough scientific support for mandating fluoride ingestion.

Now what does fluoride ultimately do, apart from demineralise the bones for one?

Fluoride causes the pineal gland to shrink.

The pineal gland is “associated” with spiritual development and the evolution of consciousness.

Far fetched isn’t always you know. Technology is far more advanced than we know, believe and are informed.

The world leaders are psychopaths.
 
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AutoTripper said:
Far fetched isn’t always you know. Technology is far more advanced than we know, believe and are informed.
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if we aren't informed/don't know then how do you know?

i've collaborated with companies and government agencies both in quantum information and bioinformatics and not once been impressed by the technical details of any protected intellectual property. tbh most of the time i'm pretty sure they make it confidential cos its embarassingly bad.

i've been told by people who work in properly confidential areas (e.g. Heilbronn institute) that they feel suffocated by their inability to collaborate extensively, it actively prevents them from being able to work. they aren't generating any particularly advanced tech.
 
AutoTripper said:
Whatever happens, is right, left, square, red or blue, Rudolph Steiner DID say that shit. He proposed it. I doubt very much he was joking, and I also doubt he was being a cunning scaremongerer either.

I certainly wouldn’t accept that label for myself. Caremongerer maybe. As a scaremongerer has bad intentions generally by definition.
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Well you're right, scaremongering has a negative connotation. And I'm sure the guy was actually worried. But he also died in 1925. It must have seemed literally anything was possible through technology back then. Even moreso a little later. And hey, maybe anything us. But when talking about the soul, what does any of us really know? Nothing, really. It seems a bit... hysterical to think that this vaccine or any vaccine is going to be able to eliminate the soul and leave you an automaton. If I started to see evidence of this, that would be one thing. But it's just pure speculation and it feeds right into the wave of vaccine fear being pushed right now.

For the record I understand the fear. I was nervous to get it. I'm fine though. I realize not everyone is fine. But go to India and try to tell them that hardly anyone dies from COVID. I'm more afraid of it mutating (as it is already doing) and continuing to be dangerous despite previous immunity. Or if it mutates into something more deadly. I'd rather a comparatively tiny fraction of people have bad side effects from a vaccine than have millions more people die around the world.

If someone is known to have a reason to specifically fear the vaccine (previous serious allergic reaction, pre existing medical condition, etc), then they shouldn't get it, absolutely. But to not get it because you're afraid it's going to steal your soul... that's like being afraid of a monster under your bed. You're a lot more likely to get serious ramifications from COVID. You're not very likely to get it from either, but the percentage of people experiencing death or lasting damage from COVID is far higher than from the vaccine, except in young children.

Nevertheless I support anyone's right to choose not to get the vaccine. I do hope those people are doing what else they can to avoid being a disease vector, though.
 
AutoTripper said:
Whatever happens, is right, left, square, red or blue, Rudolph Steiner DID say that shit. He proposed it. I doubt very much he was joking, and I also doubt he was being a cunning scaremongerer either.

The world leaders are psychopaths.
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RS certainly did say that, so what? He said a LOT of things, some of them extremely insightful, some of them absolutely batshit crazy iof that I have very little doubt

You actually think this was a prediction of this particular vaccine? All the covid ones, or one or two in particular?

Some world leaders are psychopaths, probably. Nuance.
 
Xorkoth said:
But when talking about the soul, what does any of us really know? Nothing, really.
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This is exactly my point when I say we take a lot for granted. By “We” also you mean us, the public at large, who have simply never been privvy to the top intel for many obvious reasons.

We don’t know indeed. But that doesn’t mean that there isn’t a team of frankensteiner’s cooking up shit too far fetched for any movie ever released thus far to thrust upon the public’s imagination (yet).

Conspiracy, benevolence, malevolence aside, I don’t think it’s too wild to envisage biological manipulation, alteration or interference to be capable of affecting mental and emotional development at the least.

Consciousness. I’m no scholar on the soul, but I am very spiritual.

One point, Rudolph’s outlandish almost prophetically phrased suggestion, ties in very closely with the Bible prophecy of the last days and the Mark of the beast, which during the final days would be a forced (mandated) requirement to participate in society or else be cut out, claiming that by taking the mark entrance to heaven, or the afterlife, will be prevented/denied.

The Bible said the same shit more than a century ago.

The mere fact that Rudolph openly expresses the aspiration is alarming, regardless of what is possible, real or not.
 
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AutoTripper said:
Whatever happens, is right, left, square, red or blue, Rudolph Steiner DID say that shit. He proposed it. I doubt very much he was joking, and I also doubt he was being a cunning scaremongerer either.

I certainly wouldn’t accept that label for myself. Caremongerer maybe. As a scaremongerer has bad intentions generally by definition.

We are making big assumptions here, taking much for granted. Like- nah, no way could the body and brain be manipulated or altered in such a way with any form of technology, (infants we are really talking about here as per the quote, before they have had a chance to develop anything), that it somehow blocks a certain nature or level of consciousness from developing.

Fluoride. Innocent thing, good for our teeth? First ever added to public water supplies by none other than Adolph, back then to dumb down the masses.

Campaigned against globally since, mainstream science insisting thorough scientific support for mandating fluoride ingestion.

Now what does fluoride ultimately do, apart from demineralise the bones for one?

Fluoride causes the pineal gland to shrink.

The pineal gland is “associated” with spiritual development and the evolution of consciousness.

Far fetched isn’t always you know. Technology is far more advanced than we know, believe and are informed.

The world leaders are psychopaths.
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The type of fluoride added to water does not cross the blood brain barrier. On top of that, its extremely good for the teeth. Rates of dental decay and associated illness like heart disease are much lower in fluoridated areas.

Not to mention... you do know fluoride naturally occurs in spring water, right?
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
RS certainly did say that, so what? He said a LOT of things, some of them extremely insightful, some of them absolutely batshit crazy iof that I have very little doubt

You actually think this was a prediction of this particular vaccine? All the covid ones, or one or two in particular?

Some world leaders are psychopaths, probably. Nuance.
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I just found it interesting and I dare say bizarre.

I never suggested it was THIS (well again it isn’t actually a vaccine for the record) jab.
 
schizoinfective said:
The type of fluoride added to water does not cross the blood brain barrier. On top of that, its extremely good for the teeth. Rates of dental decay and associated illness like heart disease are much lower in fluoridated areas.

Not to mention... you do know fluoride naturally occurs in spring water, right?
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Yes naturally occurring fluoride. The rest, well that’s exactly what they have always told you.

Actually the original science used to push the argument for fluoride, I’m foggy now but I think I can recall….2 regions. One no fluoride in public water.

The other, fluoride added.

The result- in the fluoridated water area children exhibited a 0.6% reduction in oral cavities, allegedly.


Whatever we each individually agree or vehemently disagree on, we are living in a society built upon and around stacks and stacks of lies from the highest board.
 
Xorkoth said:
I'm more afraid of it mutating (as it is already doing) and continuing to be dangerous despite previous immunity....

Nevertheless I support anyone's right to choose not to get the vaccine. I do hope those people are doing what else they can to avoid being a disease vector, though.
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every unvaccinated person increases the risk of a mutation capable of antigenic escape. every time a virus is replicated (which occurs multiple times in every cell it infects) there is a chance of a mutation. only a very small percentage of mutations will be positively selected for but the best way to minimise the risk of really bad ones is to mnimise number of infected people first stop.

unless you stop unvaccinated people from interacting with anyone, you can't prevent them from being a disease vector. i just don't believe that people's right to infect other, potentially vulnerable, people and provide a host for mutations is more important than their right to decline advised medical interventions.
 
AutoTripper said:
Whatever we each individually agree or vehemently disagree on, we are living in a society built upon and around stacks and stacks of lies from the highest board.
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I don't think anyone with half a brain would disagree with that. Hopefully not anyway.

Doesn't mean that there is subterfuge everywhere though, which is what many people can't seem to comprehend
 
If it's any consolation to doubters of the vaccine, I had my first dose of the AstraZeneca on saturday.

Nearly everyone I know has reported negative side effects for several days after, so I was a little wary at first.

However, if anything, I've actually felt better since having it. I woke up the next day in a positive frame of mind rather than my usual alcoholic malaise. I've been motivated at work for the last couple of days and my cravings for booze have become minimal - in fact I even went nearly two whole days without a drink. I know that this surely can't be attributed to the vaccine, can it?

Perhaps I'm such a fuckup that any foreign substance injected into my body gives me a psychological boost?


I dunno, but I ain't knocking it...
 
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