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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy Mescaline and Mesc. Cactus Thread - 3rd Button

so..been sitting on (ouch) around 8ft of assorted healthy looking san pedro cacti, just in the dirt doing their thing, for like the last 10 years. yeah i know why didnt i eat any ever, im lazy and cant be bothered to de-spine and cook down my psychedelics when acid comes in vials. i figured id use roughly a foot and a half, mayyybe closer to 2 feet worth, question is will there be any loss of potency after a decade of just sitting in the ground? also just cuz im thinking of it, anyone know any cross tolerance with mesc and lsd? thanks
 
They won't lose potency due to age, if anything they'd be more potent. Mescaline and LSD produce strong cross-tolerance.
 
Found Isopropyl Alcohol that's 99.9%
This is what I'm looking for correct?

This is exactly what I need for the Mescaline extract I plan with San Pedro powder. Plan on doing two separate 125gram batches. Leaving them sit and soak for a week before the filtering process. I'd really like to get it down to the point i can fit 500mgs in a gelcap to swallow. This is pretty much the only way I will be able to get my girl to take it with me.

I'd personally taken the Resin extract from boiling it down on the stovetop. But I'd really like to give this method a go regardless, will be much easier for me to weigh and dose. I know that she is going to love this one, such a beautiful experience. The euphoric push this one provides is simply sublime, I prefer it to MDMA very naturalistic.
 
Agreed, I like it way better than MDMA, as well.

So 99.9% IPA l just to pull and evap would work fine, I'd imagine. If you're going to try acid base purification etc to get pure mescaline, you'll want to dry the IPA first or you'll lose some in the residual water.
 
My favorite cacti shop has been out of stock for a long time now.
I hope i can find a source somehow.
 
99% will work but may I suggest if you are going the crude extraction route to use water/vinegar instead? (5-10:1 ratio). This will pull less of the nasty tasting impurities that make you wanna yak. The only benefit to using alcohols (iso, ethanol, methanol, etc) is that they dry fast, but overall produce a less pure extract.

For example I?ve seen 12-15g crude extract from a ?standard? size 12? cutting, that tasted vile when using isopropyl. Whereas more around 10g crude extract using distilled water with a little vinegar with less nasty bitter taste.

Which brings me to my next point, your not getting down to a 500mg dosage unless you perform an A/B. Or your girl is ok choking down 10-20 caps.

But yea Mescaline is magic alright :) I?ve been feeling really off this past year and couldn?t figure it out until I realized I haven?t had a good Mescaline trip in over a year. I?ve been taking it fairly regularly since I was young and I feel it has strong anti-depressant like qualities that last long after the experience is over. I?m now planning my next adventure very soon.

Mescaline and MDMA combined has brought me to a level of compassion that neither could accomplish alone. Plus I think the other alkaloids in the cacti may potentiate the MDXX even more. 3 days after Shulgins passing I had a session with the two in honor of him and I feel he blessed me that day because that experience was life changing.

-GC
 
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I finally have a chance to try Mescaline Hcl, it's been years since I had San Pedro and Peruvian Torch which I remember having nausea from. How is the nausea with pure mescaline? Is the nausea from the plants from other alkaloids in the plant? I have ondansetron on hand but I've also heard mescaline is a good candidate for rectal dosing both for nausea and getting your money's worth in the amount required to peak. Besides the cactus, I have experience with mescaline related compounds like the 2Cs, Dox, NBOHs etc all of which have no nausea for me. I'm just curious as to any factors that give mescaline the reputation for the hard come up (other than peyote rituals with purging being a component like ayahuasca). So far the only psychedelic that has given me nausea is ETH-LAD.
 
I am also interested in hearing people's experiences with synthetic mescaline. Any BLers tried it before? How does it compare to other PEAs and psychedelics?

I have a chance to try it, and as the parent of the phenethylamines, I would like to get to know it before researching the class any further.

I'm gonna read through this thread, and some erowid experience reports, but would love to hear what people have to say about it here these days.
 
I am also interested in hearing people's experiences with synthetic mescaline. Any BLers tried it before? How does it compare to other PEAs and psychedelics?

I have a chance to try it, and as the parent of the phenethylamines, I would like to get to know it before researching the class any further.

I'm gonna read through this thread, and some erowid experience reports, but would love to hear what people have to say about it here these days.
I found mescaline hcl to lack a lot of the physical euphoria (as well as nausea etc) of cactus or cactus extract. It was also a bit more shallow and lacking in depth. Less therapeutic, less euphoric. Those other alkaloids play a huge role
 
I found mescaline hcl to lack a lot of the physical euphoria (as well as nausea etc) of cactus or cactus extract. It was also a bit more shallow and lacking in depth. Less therapeutic, less euphoric. Those other alkaloids play a huge role
That is good to know. I will likely go the synthetic route as it'll be easier than chugging down the cactus. But if it really does limit the full effect I could definitely see myself going that route. In general I love phenethylamines so I'm really excited for this.
 
That is good to know. I will likely go the synthetic route as it'll be easier than chugging down the cactus. But if it really does limit the full effect I could definitely see myself going that route. In general I love phenethylamines so I'm really excited for this.
I prefer a total alkaloid extract, even a crude one, to mescaline hcl, even though I don't like dealing with the nausea. And I've tried both isolated mescaline (which was acetate actually) as well as synthetic.

The acetate was a little more full bodied, potentially due to set and setting but I doubt it, more likely some other alkaloids made it thru the isolation process. (Dirty Sanchez as opposed to white fluff needles or yellowish powder)
 
I’ve had plenty of Mescaline acetate extracted, purified to the point where I was able to get nice Mescaline acetate crystals amongst the other alkaloids.

I felt the purified M. acetate was different than a crude extract or tea even, more a traditional psychedelic and less the empathogen that I adore. Amazing visuals though, much stronger than tea or extract.

I think the best way to go to avoid puking and get the “full” experience is to use a crude extract made from diluted vinegar. Dry completely then capsule up or reconstitute in a tea form again when ready to use. (The reconstituted tea is MUCH better than regular tea, and you can exactly control how dilute you want it.)

-GC
 
I tried mescaline for the first time today. 395mg of brown extract crystals hcl. I tend to have a higher tolerance than others. I took a good thumbsize chunk of ginger root and blended it in hot water to make a strong ginger tea and drank about an hour before in failed effort to stave off nausea.


+ 0:30 - Started to feel something that felt a little glowy. "Is this what people mean when they talk about rolling?"

+ 1:00 - Nausea becomes pronounced and dominates my experience for the next hour and half. Oddly I felt sexual even while having nausea.

+ 4:00 - Talked to my sober girlfriend, felt very open and at ease and aware of the nuances of my psychology. I could easily share vulnerable things. I also felt aware of her, and could sense areas where she felt closed to me or afraid and felt accepting and complete non judgmental of her. We had a good long conversation. I remembered science things from college and shared about electron orbitals and light and the mystery of existence and she shared in the wonder with me. Went to a park and felt so open like light and energy were flowing out of me in all directions. I felt free of all anxiety, free of all judgement. Felt connected to others. Shared a smile with someone with a big leaf in their hair. Called my mom, sent my dad a picture of the sunset. Grateful to be alive. Feel very much at peace. I spent a few decades working with my demons and its so nice to just be able to have this ease. GI discomfort rides along but not overwhelming. No visuals. Felt more sexual than I ever felt with LSD, mushrooms or 2c-E. Was able to keep track of time, navigate for my girlfriend while she drove. Definitely felt the drug, however likely will need a higher dose to fully explore its nature.

I am now at about + 10:00 and still feeling the openness and brightness. It was a nice long steady plateau that very slowly is tapering off, not waves of intensity like mushrooms. It felt like I could get a lot done with this.
 
🌵6 PSYCHOACTIVE CACTI THAT DON'T CONTAIN MESCALINE🌵

The desert holds secrets that don't fit in a single name. Not all psychoactivity in the Cactaceae kingdom comes from mescaline: there exists a complete universe of phenethylamines, extremely rare alkaloids, and nearly forgotten molecules that live in species equally sacred, ancient, and fascinating.

From macromerine to candicine, passing through unique compounds like weberine, longimammosine, longimammamine, and even little-known derivatives of mescaline, these cacti reveal the immense chemical diversity that Mexico and South America have silently protected for millions of years.

In this carousel I explore psychoactive cacti that DO NOT contain mescaline, but possess other alkaloids capable of generating altered, symbolic, and profoundly visionary states —from 11-meter giants to 4 cm miniatures that guard entire kingdoms in their sap.

Each species tells a story:
🟢 The Coryphantha revered in Coahuila as "Doña Ana,"
🟢 The monumental Pachycereus weberi,
🟢 The mysterious Mammillaria longimamma with its unprecedented natural amphetamines,
🟢 The tiny and complex Turbinicarpus pseudomacrochele,
🟢 And the Obregonia denegrii, an endangered jewel that some psychonauts describe as a living doorway.

This post is not an invitation to consume 😉, but rather a tribute to visionary botany, natural chemistry, and the peoples who have safeguarded these species. 🌵✨
Psychonautics is also knowledge, respect, and preservation.


5 Psychoactive Cacti That Don't Contain Mescaline

Coryphantha elephantidens var. Inermis

While Hikuri/Peyote has an average of 3.5% mescaline, this cactus contains its alkaloid at a quantity of 5%, making it one of the most potent cacti in the World.

It contains one of the least popular natural alkaloids in history, which is "Candicine".

It contains high quantities of two more complex substituted versions than mescaline:

N-Methylmescaline
N,N-Dimethylmescaline


Turbinicarpus pseudomacrochele is one of the smallest cacti in the World; some of its varieties reaching 4cm as their maximum size.

It contains high quantities of two alkaloids named in direct reference to this species:

Longimammosine
Longimammamine

In 2018 it was discovered to contain 3-methoxy-amphetamine, being one of the few amphetamine-containing organisms in the world.

One of the cheapest and most common cacti in the international market, with an average cost of $1 dollar per specimen.


Pachycereus weberi is one of the 3 largest cactus species in the World, capable of reaching up to 11 meters in height.

It contains one of the 3 least studied alkaloids of all cacti, which is Weberine.


In Coahuila they call Coryphantha macromeris "Doña Ana," referring to the spirit that personifies itself when consumed.

It contains a phenethylamine very similar to mescaline, which is "Macromerine"


The exact alkaloid of Obregonia denegrii is unknown; however, intrepid psychonauts report it as psychoactive.


Spanish:

🌵6 CACTUS PSICOACTIVOS QUE NO CONTIENEN MESCALINA🌵

El desierto guarda secretos que no caben en un solo nombre. No toda la psicoactividad del reino Cactaceae nace de la mezcalina: existe un universo completo de fenetilaminas, alcaloides rarísimos y moléculas casi olvidadas que viven en especies igual de sagradas, antiguas y fascinantes.

Desde la macromerina hasta la candicina, pasando por compuestos únicos como la weberina, longimamosina, longimamina, e incluso derivados poco conocidos de la mescalina, estos cactus revelan la inmensa diversidad química que México y Sudamérica han protegido silenciosamente durante millones de años.

En este carrusel exploro cactus psicoactivos que NO contienen mezcalina, pero que poseen otros alcaloides capaces de generar estados alterados, simbólicos y profundamente visionarios —desde gigantes de 11 metros hasta miniaturas de 4 cm que guardan reinos enteros en su savia.

Cada especie cuenta una historia:
🟢 La Coryphantha reverenciada en Coahuila como “Doña Ana”,
🟢 El monumental Pachycereus weberi,
🟢 La misteriosa Mammillaria longimamma con sus anfetaminas naturales inéditas,
🟢 El diminuto y complejo Turbinicarpus pseudomacrochele,
🟢 Y la Obregonia denegrii, joya en peligro de extinción que algunos psiconautas describen como una puerta viva.

Este post no es una invitación al consumo 😉, sino un homenaje a la botánica visionaria, a la química natural y a los pueblos que han resguardado estas especies. 🌵✨
La psiconáutica también es conocimiento, respeto y preservación.



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