Honestly at this point I don't think it should even matter if there's any chance of anyone changing their mind.
It seems to me that honest and well intentioned debate would be worthwhile if only to help both sides become more familiar with what the other side actually believes and what arguments are useful and what arguments at circular.
I do get your intentions. But I have to ask;
doesn't it make this whole thread circular if nobody believes in changing their minds?
Just curious.
I'm an antinatalist, so in my view, creating a life is
worse than taking one. And I truly DO believe that my thesis of knock'em-as-they-slide-out is valid.
That little hairless monkey isn't exactly aware of anything when pushed out.
Seriously though (the Valiums kicking now), if I knocked a girl up, I'd go with whatever her decision was. My worst nightmare is having a kid, but if I dip n' spit, I gotta be ready for the consequences.
I would never tell someone to scrape out what I put there. If she'd ask, I'd of course say FUCK. NO.
But that shit isn't gonna grow inside me, ripping me open from balls to rectum in a flood of shit, piss and blood - and if it would be safe for the mother, abortion after six months wouldn't bother me.
So for the sake of argument, can you explain your thought process behind it all? When do you believe the fetus becomes sentient? A person?
How is it wrong to deprive it of something its never had? And how do you reason around the fact that life is a string of unfulfilled desires?
The state of world? We call our specie the wise ape, but we're slaves to our biology.
May I ask if you're religious?
Also, pro-life equals pro-pain, pro-suffering, pro-disease, pro-chlamydia, pro-Ben Affleck-movies, pro-wage slavery, pro-constant struggle..?