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Megathread Cultural Appropriation and Cancel Culture Discussion

The problem is it's heavily biased. Look what happened to Gina Carano, when the same people supporting her firing were calling Trump and his supporters Nazis for years.

It's the double standards and the fact that cancelling people is used to silence people who aren't part of the ridiculous far-left agenda.
 
An example of cancel culture going too far, imo, is the "scandal" with the Bachelor that just happened. I heard about it on the radio yesterday. One of the contestants, it turned out, attended a plantation-themed party in 2018, and people got up in arms, and the director defended her, and now he's resigned and the media is making a big deal about it. Meanwhile, the bachelor this season is a black guy.

But it's trivial. Maybe all of her friends went? Maybe it didn't occur to her that it would offend some people? Now she and anyone who doesn't agree with the oversized reaction is a racist. Throwing around "racist" for attending a plantation themed party a few years ago is diluting the meaning of the word. Putting these people in the same category as actual racists is damaging to the attempt to actually shine light on people who are bigots. It just gives ammo to the people trying to insist that we don't legitimately still have racism happening in this country. Irresponsible, imo.
 
JGrimez said:
This is for the dummies who don't know their history:
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I remember back in the good ol' days, when he just wanted people to cancel their parents ;)

I'm surprised that he didn't make any comments about "white genocide", snow-white Europe being swamped by swarthy dark-skinned foreigners, or related concepts in those remarks...although he couldn't make it through 5 minutes of commentary without at least mentioning Jared Taylor :LOL:

I'm sorry to "attack the messenger" here, but anyone with any knowledge of this particular man and his political development knows him to be an opportunist of the worst variety. His actual argument in the video is one I find lazy and superficial...does removal from the public square often precede political repression, even genocide? Yes. But the connection between modern-day tech companies censoring information (which private industry has done, to varying degrees and with varying success, throughout this nation's history) and a campaign of literal extermination at the hands of communists is left very vague by Molyneaux. And, of course, he just can't help himself and pivots to "the race question" towards the end of that clip. Because hey, I like talking with all you wonderful people of different races, but a multiracial society also contains the seeds of its own destruction through racial animosity, driven by the evil socialists/communists, and that's why we need the white ethnostate baby
 
birdup.snaildown said:
They're really scraping the bottom of the barrel now.

Joss Whedon (creator of Buffy The Vampire Slayer) is now being crucified for being kind of a dick every now and then over the course of 30 years.

Almost every cast member from the show has stepped forward to help throw him under the bus.
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When almost every person who knew someone at x time comes forward and says they were abusive in their experiences with them... It's probably because they're abusive.

Really why would you assume it's bullshit? People don't just all come together and decide to tell the same lie about someone one after the other because that person is so great.

If you're a nice innocent caring person, you might still make an enemy here or there, but there's not gonna be a half dozen women supporting the same lie just to hurt you because... What, hurting men is fun?
 
JessFR said:
When almost every person who knew someone at x time comes forward and says they were abusive in their experiences with them... It's probably because they're abusive.

Really why would you assume it's bullshit? People don't just all come together and decide to tell the same lie about someone one after the other because that person is so great.

If you're a nice innocent caring person, you might still make an enemy here or there, but there's not gonna be a half dozen women supporting the same lie just to hurt you because... What, hurting men is fun?
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I don't know if that's true, groupthink and herd mentality are a real thing. I have half a post typed up on toxic feminity as it relates to that but haven't finished it. I've been labeled in ways I certainly am not, by some people who were rather abusive themselves. I certainly am not innocent, but I've noticed people like to change their stories, even lie, compound upon each other's exaggerations, if they have been hurt my someone emotionally. I think the more influential/affluent someone is, like politicians and "stars" this can even happen by strangers jumping into the mania.

A half dozen, maybe not, but 3 or so, maybe. Especially if you are in toxic polycules, etc.
 
Sure but if a bunch of the people closest to you all start coming out and saying you're a scumbag, and either very few people who were there are defending you and the ones who are wouldn't have been in a position to see.

Well, it's probably because you're a scumbag, not that all those people are wrong or exaggerating.
 
JessFR said:
Sure but if a bunch of the people closest to you all start coming out and saying you're a scumbag, and either very few people who were there are defending you and the ones who are wouldn't have been in a position to see.

Well, it's probably because you're a scumbag, not that all those people are wrong or exaggerating.
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In my experience people will sometimes defend, but after a certain point, it becomes "victim blaming", or if they are mutual friends getting in between can be rough. In my experience they are more likely to offer support privately. But my situation was rather intense, I will describe it intricately in my post.

To be clear this isn't in relation to the person you were talking about, I've never heard of them.

I do think its a good thing for the most part, cancel culture.
 
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Burnt Offerings said:
I remember back in the good ol' days, when he just wanted people to cancel their parents ;)

I'm surprised that he didn't make any comments about "white genocide", snow-white Europe being swamped by swarthy dark-skinned foreigners, or related concepts in those remarks...although he couldn't make it through 5 minutes of commentary without at least mentioning Jared Taylor :LOL:

I'm sorry to "attack the messenger" here, but anyone with any knowledge of this particular man and his political development knows him to be an opportunist of the worst variety. His actual argument in the video is one I find lazy and superficial...does removal from the public square often precede political repression, even genocide? Yes. But the connection between modern-day tech companies censoring information (which private industry has done, to varying degrees and with varying success, throughout this nation's history) and a campaign of literal extermination at the hands of communists is left very vague by Molyneaux. And, of course, he just can't help himself and pivots to "the race question" towards the end of that clip. Because hey, I like talking with all you wonderful people of different races, but a multiracial society also contains the seeds of its own destruction through racial animosity, driven by the evil socialists/communists, and that's why we need the white ethnostate baby
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You're just ignorant of the communist infiltration and instead choose to focus on the bald man.

This is why it will succeed to a certain level, oblivious people.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn said:
one of the biggest mistakes people make is assuming totalitarianism can't happen in their country.
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JGrimez said:
You're just ignorant of the communist infiltration and instead choose to focus on the bald man.

This is why it will succeed to a certain level, oblivious people.
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The communist infiltration, huh? You mean the same group of people (regardless of political affiliation) who helped engineer absurd profits to the top 0.1% of the socioeconomic hierarchy?

Apparently words mean nothing now, and the threatening red menace who've infiltrated the top echelons of American government and culture have little interest in economic policy...and, if they do, it's to furiously shovel obscene profits to the capitalist hogs. That's communism for ya! :unsure::D

Seriously, you're into critical thought and historical topics right? I mean, you're quoting Solzhenitsyn, so I assume you are. Where, IN ANY SEGMENT OF AMERICAN POLITICAL LIFE OR CULTURE, do you see a significant communist influence? Maybe the DSA, Jacobin magazine, maybe some woke libtards on the west coast? Perhaps the gratuitously wealthy tech companies who are perpetuating this "virtual genocide", are they the reds? Or maybe it's our head-of-state Joe Biden, whose spent his entire political career giving tongue bathes to wealthy special interests? Prominent Democratic politicians like Pelosi, Harris, Newsom etc, that multinational business interests enthusiastically prop up (self-hating companies that hope to be expropriated one day, perhaps)? Where are these reds?!

Maybe they're hiding out somewhere in organized labor, which has been shattered for decades and currently accounts for something like less-than-10% of the American workforce? Maybe they're hiding under your bed?
 
I'm not sure this content warrants it's own thread, nor that it fits naturally into this one other than the fact that general sensitivities are driving decisions that are being applied to people and content that weren't even a consideration when the content was originally created. Hell, it was broadcast on national tv at 8pm nightly for families across the nation to share and enjoy. It WAS normal and accepted then....


Disney Plus Adds Content Disclaimer to Select ‘The Muppet Show’ Episodes

Disney Plus has added a content disclaimer to the beginning of 18 episodes of “The Muppet Show,” which started streaming on the platform on Friday.

“This program includes negative depictions and/or mistreatment of people or cultures. These stereotypes were wrong then and are wrong now,” the disclaimer reads. “Rather than remove this content, we want to acknowledge its harmful impact, learn from it and spark conversation to create a more inclusive future together.”

The disclaimer has been added to a total of 18 episodes throughout the show’s five seasons, including those guest hosted by Jim Nabors, Joel Grey, Steve Martin, Peter Sellers, Cleo Laine, James Coco, Spike Milligan, Crystal Gayle, Kenny Rogers, Beverly Sills, Jonathan Winters, Alan Arkin, James Coburn, Joan Baez, Johnny Cash, Debbie Harry, Wally Boag and Marty Feldman. The label has been added to each episode for a different reason; but for example, during Cash’s episode, he sings in front of a confederate flag. The disclaimer appears at the beginning of these episodes for 12 seconds.

“Disney is committed to creating stories with inspirational and aspirational themes that reflect the rich diversity of the human experience around the globe,” the disclaimer continues. “To learn more about how stories have impacted society visit: www. Disney.com/StoriesMatter.”

A representative for Disney Plus declined Variety‘s request to comment on the matter. However, Disney’s Stories Matter initiative outlines the platform’s reasoning for adding the labels to its content.

“As part of our ongoing commitment to diversity and inclusion, we are in the process of reviewing our library and adding advisories to content that includes negative depictions or mistreatment of people or cultures,” a statement on Disney’s website says. “Rather than removing this content, we see an opportunity to spark conversation and open dialogue on history that affects us all. We also want to acknowledge that some communities have been erased or forgotten altogether, and we’re committed to giving voice to their stories as well.”
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It's why we'll never see anything like Blazing Saddles for a generation or two when the pendulum of 'acceptance' swings back the other way. Hell, we won't even see re-runs of that movie until then. Or even the classic Airplane with it's Jive Talk.
 
I was watching Zoolander on TV (on IFC, I think?) recently and they had a disclaimer at the beginning of that one too lol. It puzzled me for a while because Zoolander is about as vanilla a movie as you can get, but then I realized that it was because there was a "blackface" scene in the film
 
Burnt Offerings said:
The communist infiltration, huh? You mean the same group of people (regardless of political affiliation) who helped engineer absurd profits to the top 0.1% of the socioeconomic hierarchy?

Apparently words mean nothing now, and the threatening red menace who've infiltrated the top echelons of American government and culture have little interest in economic policy...and, if they do, it's to furiously shovel obscene profits to the capitalist hogs. That's communism for ya! :unsure::D

Seriously, you're into critical thought and historical topics right? I mean, you're quoting Solzhenitsyn, so I assume you are. Where, IN ANY SEGMENT OF AMERICAN POLITICAL LIFE OR CULTURE, do you see a significant communist influence? Maybe the DSA, Jacobin magazine, maybe some woke libtards on the west coast? Perhaps the gratuitously wealthy tech companies who are perpetuating this "virtual genocide", are they the reds? Or maybe it's our head-of-state Joe Biden, whose spent his entire political career giving tongue bathes to wealthy special interests? Prominent Democratic politicians like Pelosi, Harris, Newsom etc, that multinational business interests enthusiastically prop up (self-hating companies that hope to be expropriated one day, perhaps)? Where are these reds?!

Maybe they're hiding out somewhere in organized labor, which has been shattered for decades and currently accounts for something like less-than-10% of the American workforce? Maybe they're hiding under your bed?
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Proving my point - completely oblivious.

Look at how many on the Left brandish communist flags and subscribe to communist ideology.
Marxism is taught as a viable alternative in all academic institutions.
And look at Senile Joe Fake President cozying up to to communist China.

Keep your head in the sand and then when it pops out you might find yourself in a gulag, comrade.
 
JGrimez said:
The problem is it's heavily biased. Look what happened to Gina Carano, when the same people supporting her firing were calling Trump and his supporters Nazis for years.

It's the double standards and the fact that cancelling people is used to silence people who aren't part of the ridiculous far-left agenda.
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I think that when some of Trump's supporters are actual nazi's, it's probably ok to call that out (https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-38057104). But to compare that to dem's calling hail-hitler-saluting-Trumpers, is so crazy to me.. and can I just say, that comparing yourself to a holocaust survivor because you got some heat on Facebook over a dumb take is the biggest snowflake move ever. If you have crazy takes, deal with the backlash.

Also, why are you surprised that a bunch of tech companies are cancelling far-right personalities when those same personalities have been calling for those SAME tech companies to be sanctioned and split up? Trump's excuse for acting like a complete child was always "but he called me a name first!", but when these companies finally punch back, they're criminals? Do you honestly believe that communists are in power? Can you give me some examples?

I didn't go through all the comments on this thread, so if I'm offbase in what you're saying, my bad. Your last few comments just make absolutely no sense.
 
Partykid12 said:
I think that when some of Trump's supporters are actual nazi's, it's probably ok to call that out (https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-38057104). But to compare that to dem's calling hail-hitler-saluting-Trumpers, is so crazy to me.. and can I just say, that comparing yourself to a holocaust survivor because you got some heat on Facebook over a dumb take is the biggest snowflake move ever. If you have crazy takes, deal with the backlash.

Also, why are you surprised that a bunch of tech companies are cancelling far-right personalities when those same personalities have been calling for those SAME tech companies to be sanctioned and split up? Trump's excuse for acting like a complete child was always "but he called me a name first!", but when these companies finally punch back, they're criminals? Do you honestly believe that communists are in power? Can you give me some examples?

I didn't go through all the comments on this thread, so if I'm offbase in what you're saying, my bad. Your last few comments just make absolutely no sense.
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And don't forget, tech tried, Tried, and TRIED to stay neutral. They even swung their policies the other way to prevent even a passing appearance of anti-conservative bias. Jack Dorsey of Twitter, for example, decreed that it was "in the public interest" to allow them to spew their bile virtually unrestricted and for years exempted them from the rules they apply to anybody else. To demonstrate this point, a liberal Twitter user conducted an experiment: He copied, pasted, and reposted 45's tweets verbatim. And being liberal and not conservative, he was suspended in all of three days, while the right was allowed to continue unabated: https://www.newsweek.com/twitter-do...-suspendthepres-social-media-policies-1512443

It wasn't until the republicans went beyond-the-pale and staged their attempted coup on January 6th that the big tech companies decided enough was enough and finally decided that they did not want to be associated with them anymore. Right up until that day, they were quite happy to accept conservative money and page views.
 
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