JessFR
Bluelight Crew
I think you mean 1A.
2A says death threats can be met with overwhelming lethal force :D.
Megathread Cultural Appropriation and Cancel Culture Discussion
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I think you mean 1A.
2A says death threats can be met with overwhelming lethal force :D.
cduggles
Bluelight Crew
Possibly, but this erosion in civil discourse started before the pandemic. I’m not sure it wasn’t inevitable due to the nature of social media (anonymous and the creation of silos). It’s definitely not an improvement, particularly for the people who are being threatened and the burden it puts on investigatory agencies.
That's true. Internet culture/echo chambers may be a driving force behind the increasing polarization, now is perhaps the crossroads.
Either this can be viewed in hindsight as an adjustment period before social equilibrium is reached again, or maybe it's true that we're on an irreversible path towards a postnational world where anarchic (tribal?) governments become more common and it won't matter to the average person who is president or treasurer.
Deleted member 521610
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The western world needs to cancel alexi navalny hes a fucking neo nazi racist. Im glad the russians arrested him fuck neo nazis.
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mal3volent
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Reviewer: mercurial_chemister - favorite - May 29, 2018
Subject: Typical misrepresentation for propaganda purposes
In a standard practice by Russian government sponsored media the video of Navalny promoting gun rights is spun and misrepresented as racist to users who don't speak Russian and wouldn't know any better just from watching the video. As someone who in fact speaks Russian naively I can say that it's far from the case.
The video merely infers that when your accosted by bugs you need the right tools to defend yourself and likewise you need the right tools to defend yourself from terrorists.
It did not mention Muslims or compare them to insects. It simply presented a modern threat (terrorism) and stated that Russians need the right tools (guns) to deal with it.
Deleted member 521610
Bluelighter
fake, cia asset. I ran it past a russian i know in real life to understand what is been said and they said it has racial slurs and everything and that navalny is a nationalist and is known for been openly racist vs migrants and the caucus regions. Dont believe the cia trolls telling you their asset is not a nazi the cia was created by a god dam nazi.
Burnt Offerings
Bluelight Crew
Nationalism and weird quasi-fascist/fascist elements are pretty widespread in Russia (which is quite bizarre to an outside viewer considering how no country paid a higher price against the Nazis than Russia). Just look no further than the Communist Party of the Russian Federation which, despite being called a "communist party", is basically a right-wing nationalist outfit. Navalny's associations with such elements are well known, and in an old "60 Minutes" interview I watched of him recently they questioned him about his associations with such elements, although they didn't really press the issue.
For someone with basically 0 understanding of the Russian language other than "privyet", lol, it's difficult to really know what's going on in that video or what the context is though. Russian politics seems pretty sordid and tbh it gives me a headache to try decide who the "good guys" are, as everyone over there seems to be in bed with the shadiest mofos on earth
For someone with basically 0 understanding of the Russian language other than "privyet", lol, it's difficult to really know what's going on in that video or what the context is though. Russian politics seems pretty sordid and tbh it gives me a headache to try decide who the "good guys" are, as everyone over there seems to be in bed with the shadiest mofos on earth
cduggles
Bluelight Crew
Marilyn Manson is canceled. I feel this was a long time coming.
cduggles
Bluelight Crew
Also canceled is country singer Morgan Wallen:
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Morgan Wallen Suspended From Label, Axed From Country Music Stations For Racist Slur
The country star, whose record currently tops the Billboard 200, was caught on video using the derogatory term for Black people.
w01fg4ng
Bluelighter
The right traditionally fights terrorism tooth and nail. The right currently acquitted Trump of inciting the violent insurrection on our capital. There is nothing traditional about the current state of the right.
I stand by my original statement of "I'm still shocked at how quickly the right not only turn on their own but are able to go right for the death threats at the same time"
Fear is a much more effective tool of control than cancel culture ever will be. Cancel culture doesn't work most of time. It surely didn't work in this case. I mean, we have the majority of Americans agreeing that Trump should be convicted and yet here we are...
Xorkoth
Bluelight Crew
Although generally this thread seems to be about the left's cancel culture, I came upon this article illustrating that the right does it, too:
www.yahoo.com
I feel bad for the guy, and his other colleagues who voted for the impeachment. Apparently even deciding to hear the impeachment case (let alone voting to remove) constitutes party treason and results in censuring and threats of harm from the voting base.
It makes one question why someone would put themselves through this ordeal for what the right would like to claim was just a democratic partisan witch hunt.
Don't get me wrong though, I'm quite sure that if any Dems had voted against impeachment, they would be facing a similar backlash.
Adam Kinzinger's Lonely Mission
WASHINGTON — As the Republican Party censures, condemns and seeks to purge leaders who aren’t in lockstep with Donald Trump, Adam Kinzinger, the six-term Illinois congressman, stands as enemy No. 1 — unwelcome not just in his party but also in his own family, some of whom recently disowned him...
I feel bad for the guy, and his other colleagues who voted for the impeachment. Apparently even deciding to hear the impeachment case (let alone voting to remove) constitutes party treason and results in censuring and threats of harm from the voting base.
It makes one question why someone would put themselves through this ordeal for what the right would like to claim was just a democratic partisan witch hunt.
Don't get me wrong though, I'm quite sure that if any Dems had voted against impeachment, they would be facing a similar backlash.
TheLoveBandit
Retired Never Was, Coulda been wannabe
I don't. He and the others chose to be politicians and play politics over doing what is right. They make decisions and live with the consequences like anyone else.
However, I agree with you that all this censure flailing about is moronic. Even Pelosi was saying they censure people for using the wrong stationary (hyperbole on her part, but pushes the point). Censure is posturing, wrist slapping and declaring which side of a (non)issue you are on, pointless and ineffective for anything other than re-enforcing the 'them vs us' approach that ignores facts and right vs wrong.
Xorkoth
Bluelight Crew
I posit that he and they WERE doing what they thought was right, by voting against the party line. His vote is hurting his political career, he knew it would be a difficult position to hold, and it has been so far, and yet he did it anyway. Doesn't it make more sense that he honestly believes that he did the right thing? I don't get how this is "playing politics" on his part. McConnell is playing politics by trying to play both sides of the fence. Kinzinger put his career and safety on the line to speak out against Trump.
Doesn't it concern you that there is such pressure towards unwavering loyalty to a single man? That's not what a democracy is about.
TheLoveBandit
Retired Never Was, Coulda been wannabe
Yeah, that bothers me. Politicians are supposed to be able to act on what is right regardless of political affiliation. Those censuring this guy and the others are idiots, IMO. Wasting time on ineffective squawking like ducks, and yes there is a real impact to those individuals but in the big picture it doesn't help anything.
Does it concern you that the entire impeachment hearing was built upon fabricated 'evidence'? That's not what our country is about.
JessFR
Bluelight Crew
Wtf?
The president made up the entire fraud claim from the start. He repeatedly riled up his supporters. He told them Mike pence had betrayed them, he invited them to the capital.
If he had acted differently any number of times the capital insurrection wouldn't have happened, it was a foreseeable outcome of the presidents behavior.
What exactly does the president have to do to be removed from office?
If I got a bunch of people and told them again and again that evil people were stealing there country, then took them to a place knowing they were armed and told them the people inside were about to conduct the steal, and they would have to protest to stop it.
You can't reasonably argue that I couldn't have foreseen that those people might attack them, not when protests turn into riots all the time and I personally made up the whole notion of a steal, gave them the motive, pointed out the target, then looked the other way while they did it.
It's all fucking insane and it sickens me that anyone, and particularly any American defends this shit. Trump deserved to be put in jail for the rest of his life for his crimes, both then and countless acts of betrayal of his office and the American people before.
The president made up the entire fraud claim from the start. He repeatedly riled up his supporters. He told them Mike pence had betrayed them, he invited them to the capital.
If he had acted differently any number of times the capital insurrection wouldn't have happened, it was a foreseeable outcome of the presidents behavior.
What exactly does the president have to do to be removed from office?
If I got a bunch of people and told them again and again that evil people were stealing there country, then took them to a place knowing they were armed and told them the people inside were about to conduct the steal, and they would have to protest to stop it.
You can't reasonably argue that I couldn't have foreseen that those people might attack them, not when protests turn into riots all the time and I personally made up the whole notion of a steal, gave them the motive, pointed out the target, then looked the other way while they did it.
It's all fucking insane and it sickens me that anyone, and particularly any American defends this shit. Trump deserved to be put in jail for the rest of his life for his crimes, both then and countless acts of betrayal of his office and the American people before.
Deleted member 521610
Bluelighter
trump did not make it up he truly believes the election was stolen which is most likely was which all the lies the fake news kept saying about trump for the entire 4 years
birdup.snaildown
Greenlighter
They're really scraping the bottom of the barrel now.
Joss Whedon (creator of Buffy The Vampire Slayer) is now being crucified for being kind of a dick every now and then over the course of 30 years.
Almost every cast member from the show has stepped forward to help throw him under the bus.
I like Nicholas Brendon's response.
Joss Whedon (creator of Buffy The Vampire Slayer) is now being crucified for being kind of a dick every now and then over the course of 30 years.
Almost every cast member from the show has stepped forward to help throw him under the bus.
I like Nicholas Brendon's response.
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Carl Landrover
Bluelighter
I'll have to check this thread and forum out in more detail in a more focused state of mind.
It was ironic that recently Fox had segments talking about how awful cancel culture is, when Fox had just cancelled Lou Dobbs.
I think fighting about this so much isn't productive. I don't think it's as big a problem as people say, though it is an issue. Honestly if a person, brand, company, group, whatever did something wrong that created some public outrage, the punishment should be handled on a case by case basis.
Years and years before I ever heard cancel culture, it would always bother me that when a company had some problem, the CEO would immediately step down over seemingly minor things.
It was ironic that recently Fox had segments talking about how awful cancel culture is, when Fox had just cancelled Lou Dobbs.
I think fighting about this so much isn't productive. I don't think it's as big a problem as people say, though it is an issue. Honestly if a person, brand, company, group, whatever did something wrong that created some public outrage, the punishment should be handled on a case by case basis.
Years and years before I ever heard cancel culture, it would always bother me that when a company had some problem, the CEO would immediately step down over seemingly minor things.