Covid-19 Outbreak of new SARS-like coronavirus (Covid-19)

[finitelifeform]

In the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918/1919 (the last global pandemic), there were quite a few parallels to now. There were widespread mask mandates and business capacity restrictions, in which people were actually jailed for not complying. Many people complied, and many people rebelled, just like today. I was just reading some interesting historical pieces about it. There are an awful lot of similarities. One big difference was that in 1918/1919, most people were wearing gauze over their faces which is obviously pretty damn ineffective since it is full of giant holes. They also shut down businesses, schools and churches. Not really much different from today at all, really interesting to read about actually.

In 1918/19 they were treating a real threat that genuinely claimed tens of millions of peoples lives. In October 1918, the US reported 156,000 deaths, that's in one month according to the CDC. The total amount of deaths is speculated but it's thought to be around 50,000,000. We are at roughly 1,840,000 deaths for COVID-19 after 9 months, and this is based on flawed PCR tests that were never meant to be used as a diagnostic tool and it's inventor vehemtly condemned their use in such a way. The inventor died a few months before the pandemic was first reported. You can watch interviews where he says how he regrets how the medical establishment uses his invention. He says his invention is incredible at identifying things but it also says you can manipulate the test to show anything in order to reinforce your theory.
Anyway, the measures we have taken today would not be enough to prevent something like the 1918/19 pandemic. We have no resources to prevent the flu or anything flu-like.
Still today the common flu is something we cannot prevent. So having said that, why are we not at similiar figures like in 1918? Because it's not the same thing. Comparing 2020 to 1918 is like comparing apples to oranges.

The illusion is it is the same, or similiar, and the elaborate deceptive use of history is cementing it's severity in place. If this is a war, we are fighting over who gets a cart at the shopping center, not who gets a gun from the stores to fight a million strong army who have just landed on home territory. So it's not a war then, right? What happened during 1918/19 was very real. What is happening now is not. The parallels are deliberate and are there to convince you that it's similiar to something that happened in the past and because we look back into the past and see things happening in similiar ways we come to the conclusion that the present is the same as the past. Your entire reality is essentially being reconditioned. You're being gaslighted into discarding your senses and accepting what is essentially an alternative reality. Where is this alternative reality going? Judging from the looks of it, towards top-down control of every inch of your life.

This never happened in 1918/19. The actions taken were propionate to the threat at the time and peoples lives were not changed forever as a result of the actions taken. Today your loving mainstream media and your politicians keep reminding you that somehow COVID-19 has changed your life forever and there is nothing you can do about it. I can't find any parallels when I look at it like that.

 

[AutoTripper]

We are at roughly 1,840,000 deaths for COVID-19 after 9 months, and this is based on flawed PCR tests that were never meant to be used as a

Lol, I started highlighting part one of that scentence, to make the point you instantly went on to make for me thanks.

It's an important point. All about perspective and due proportionalty, and pure realism, within context.

Establishing "facts" which can be accepted by all, is a hard task presently.

But again, all we each want is to get to the bottom of this, for everybody's sake.

Let's try and keep sight of that, foremost, however heated things may become at points.

I really don't like this- Us and Them thing.

I'm not a moron or half witt, in general, across the board. I'm mentally impaired from life, but I have some faculties.

If I had not taken such a warming to @JessFR I might have found some of your terminology disparraging. I didn't, because I like you believe it or not, despite our frequent but mostly courteous, heart-spoken head clashes and disagreements.

I was more thinking- I am a part of this polarity. I question myself, and consider how I want to proceed, and what matters to me.

We ARE on the same side. We just don't know what exactly to believe.
My focus in life, going forward, really needs to be on love, not allowing room for any toxicity.

 

[Hylight]

more forward. help each other grow. TR Y

 

[AutoTripper]

Still today the common flu is something we cannot prevent

I have it now! Always a 6 week illness exactly, has true legit Flu been in my experience. Then as if tenancy has expired, it ups and leaves.

Unique in that respect. It just runs it's course, by the Calender and determined life cycle, more than any other single infection I have had, and I've had several hundred at least since 2005, especially since 2009.

 

[AutoTripper]

more forward. help each other grow. TR Y

We need each other, and a lot of people need help- I need some serious help I'll bare no bones about it.

I do appreciate your warmth very much.

 

[Hylight]

That was so Nice !! That made my New Year Happy !!

 

[finitelifeform]

Lol, I started highlighting part one of that scentence, to make the point you instantly went on to make for me thanks.

It's an important point. All about perspective and due proportionalty, and pure realism, within context.

Establishing "facts" which can be accepted by all, is a hard task presently.

But again, all we each want is to get to the bottom of this, for everybody's sake.

Let's try and keep sight of that, foremost, however heated things may become at points.

I really don't like this- Us and Them thing.

I'm not a moron or half witt, in general, across the board. I'm mentally impaired from life, but I have some faculties.

If I had not taken such a warming to @JessFR I might have found some of your terminology disparraging. I didn't, because I like you believe it or not, despite our frequent but mostly courteous, heart-spoken head clashes and disagreements.

I was more thinking- I am a part of this polarity. I question myself, and consider how I want to proceed, and what matters to me.

We ARE on the same side. We just don't know what exactly to believe.
My focus in life, going forward, really needs to be on love, not allowing room for any toxicity.

Yes, the us vs. them thing has been deliberately instilled in the public consciousness to divide and segregate society. It serves those coming to seek power and control over a population to get them arguing amongst themselves and while they are distracted fufill their agenda. It's classic divide and conquer. You don't need boots on the ground these days to conquer, you just need to get the people to fight among themselves and they will make way for you to come in and take over. What upsets me is realizing this and accepting it knowing that the society I live in, which I thought at least had some sort of solidarity, connection and understanding for one another, now would rather destroy all the progress made over centuries in order to win an argument about something they can even prove exists nor can they even see in the first place. And especially something which doesn't exist like people make it out it does. Much of what people are arguing about is similiar to whose God is the most real.

more forward. help each other grow. TR Y

Troy? I'm thinking the heart somehow makes out an 'O', or maybe a 'V' Trvy? Truy?

 

[Hylight]

the Trojan horse i know.

subliminal ? no ! funny yeah !

 

[Hylight]

 

[Hylight]

I try everyday to make sense of it.

Common sense and empathy may help.

And trying to be practical in trying times.

TRYING !! ♡

 

[AutoTripper]

Yes, the us vs. them thing has been deliberately instilled in the public consciousness to divide and segregate society. It serves those coming to seek power and control over a population to get them arguing amongst themselves and while they are distracted fufill their agenda. It's classic divide and conquer. You don't need boots on the ground these days to conquer, you just need to get the people to fight among themselves and they will make way for you to come in and take over. What upsets me is realizing this and accepting it knowing that the society I live in, which I thought at least had some sort of solidarity, connection and understanding for one another, now would rather destroy all the progress made over centuries in order to win an argument about something they can even prove exists nor can they even see in the first place. And especially something which doesn't exist like people make it out it does. Much of what people are arguing about is similiar to whose God is the most real.



Troy? I'm thinking the heart somehow makes out an 'O', or maybe a 'V' Trvy? Truy?

Absolutely. These classic psychological tactics for beaking down the cohesion of society and community, individual psyches, instilling the public with imaginary fear....

It's basic textbook stuff, not conspiracy originned, and has long been openly, publically extolled by men in seats of power and governance.

Like the whole Controlled opposition agenda, I think maybe it was Eisenhower, or some notorious general, who stated explicitly "The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves!"

Hence the disgracefully pathetic Alex Jones, Russell Brand is another example of a lying, pretending actor, appearing as a "truther."

 

[Hylight]

And when people don't feel good. Sometimes WE get Angry !

 

[AutoTripper]

And when people don't feel good. Sometimes WE get Angry !

Exactly. Which is why I try to keep peace and positive vibrations, however much I stick my big loud-mouthed neck out (see, I take the piss out of myself too lol).

Gotta keep sight right?

 

[Ds]

I work with the public @ a non-profit, and since the Covid pandemic started there have been LOTS of 'upper management' working from home, while us/normal workers have to work with individuals off the street. I am really hoping that the local government see's that workers in my position are at least offered the opportunity to receive the vaccine.
It would be kind of fucked up not to consider my place of work one of those 'front line' jobs.

Oh and btw, here if you get Covid. The local health department sends you a box. Not really sure what is in the box, but I have received tons. I am either guessing there is information on social distancing, or possibly some gloves and shit. If you or a loved one has had Covid, reach out to your local health department, and please let me know what is in those boxes!

 

[AutoTripper]

Please excuse my sense of humour here, as I truly don't mean to be insensitive.

But to my mind, it would not be unfitting if it was a "Jack in the Box!"

 

[cduggles]

Can we please get back on topic?

 

[✿Dai₷y✿]

The one thing I find strange about this whole pandemic is that it's all suddenly gone quiet about its origin.

First we were told that it came from the wet markets of Wuhan, then that it may have escaped from a laboratory nearby, then nothing.

The Chinese have unleashed a deadly virus upon the world and we've all just accepted it. Why is the rest of the world not holding them to account for it?

It seems that it's all been brushed under the carpet and no one is asking questions - at least not in public.

Perhaps there are loads of investigations going on that we dont know about, but it just seems a little weird to me...

Heh, Australia was quite vocal about a need for an international investigation and all that happened was the Chinese starting a trade war, tariffs on exports like wine, beef, barley, think they banned our coal etc...so they're having blackouts in winter and their electricity is priced out of poor people's price range.


They're being dickheads.

We have to stop relying on them too much anyway as that's what gives them leverage.

China dont like losing face and that's what they think will happen if they co operate. Its too late now anyway, the cover up won't work next outbreak from there hopefully.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

The one thing I find strange about this whole pandemic is that it's all suddenly gone quiet about its origin.

First we were told that it came from the wet markets of Wuhan, then that it may have escaped from a laboratory nearby, then nothing.

The Chinese have unleashed a deadly virus upon the world and we've all just accepted it. Why is the rest of the world not holding them to account for it?

It seems that it's all been brushed under the carpet and no one is asking questions - at least not in public.

Perhaps there are loads of investigations going on that we dont know about, but it just seems a little weird to me...

i believe since the west has been so weakened they are just biding their time to recover from this china virus. Australia india and japan are preparing and investing hundreds of billons each for a war with china. A war with china is pretty much going to happen whenever it be in the next decade or 3 decades but i believe it will come to a head before at 2050. The day those commies are vaporized into radioactive dust the better. Chinese relations have recently broken down with russia aswell. The chinese are trying to steal the entire artic and that really pissed putin off so the russians started firing hypersonic missiles to show the chinese that the russians will easily vaporize them off the planet if they touch on their toes.

 

[AutoTripper]

i believe since the west has been so weakened they are just biding their time to recover from this china virus. Australia india and japan are preparing and investing hundreds of billons each for a war with china. A war with china is pretty much going to happen whenever it be in the next decade or 3 decades but i believe it will come to a head before at 2050. The day those commies are vaporized into radioactive dust the better. Chinese relations have recently broken down with russia aswell. The chinese are trying to steal the entire artic and that really pissed putin off so the russians started firing hypersonic missiles to show the chinese that the russians will easily vaporize them off the planet if they touch on their toes.

Putin doesn't fuck about. Opinions aside, he's got balls, like Trump. The press are not overly favourable of Putin, but recent years he seems to have dodged the spotlight which has been almost entirely focussed on Trump, as far as political leaders go.

But a few years back, in UK at least, Putin was under regular media fire and black reputation painting.

He just became much less of a priority, maybe even a sense of lost cause behind it too.

 

[negrogesic]

You only mentioned this in order to puff yourself up as in possession of some secret occult knowledge.

I mentioned it because I was sickened by the denying and minimizing that I was reading given what I witnessed with my own eyes.

You posted some facebook video of a woman over which is superimposed by text that reads "No proof exists that this virus even exists". This sort of material encourages denial among the impressionable, which increases the spread of this very real virus. This makes you both a fool and a menance as people could take it at face value and act accordingly. You are complicit and part of the problem.

Then others rambling on with the "masks aren't effective" and "its got a 99% survival rate" and "the covid death stats are a lie" type of nonsense imparts a sense of rage in me given what I've seen first hand.