Conspiracies The Plot To Steal America - Watch this video with an OPEN MIND

[JessFR]

martial law is, surely, an egregious act of tyranny by the president.

if certain second amendment-spouting citizens were true to their patriot principles, they wouldn't be on president trump's side...

alasdair

Just to be direct about this.

If you're a trump supporter (and American) and you actually want to see Trump try and use the military to stay in office.

You're not a patriot, you're a traitor. You are sympathetic to actions in an effort to take over the rightful civilian government system by force. That's treason.

Fortunately the military leadership is generally made up of actual patriots and I don't for a moment believe they'd go along with anything of the sort.

 

[OpiateKiller]

^ you understand that youtube removing a video has nothing to do with the first amendment, right?



i'd be interested to hear you enumerate exactly what you mean by this.

could you outline a couple or three specific examples of the kind of restriction you're predicting? thanks.

alasdair

1. The 2nd amendment will be abolished, or ammo, guns, and prices / taxes will be so high it will destroy the ability to purchase firearms.
2. Those critical of the US government and speak out against anything they're doing will be censored, and if they're a big enough threat, killed. There are plenty of people who have died connected to the Clinton family. all very suspicious. All very unlikely suicides, shot and killed, etc. All people who were exposing them in some fashion. Just like if you speak against the gov't in certain nations, they will kill you or imprison you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Body_Count

3. It is already a known fact the NSA has tabs on every American. Edward Snowden blew the top off that one. This surveillance will only grow worse and with this increased surveillance of American citizens will come freedoms being taken.

4. Tech giants like youtube, facebook, twitter, etc. will censor anything that they don't see as following through with the plans that they have. This is incredibly dangerous and anyone who doesn't see that if we can't speak out against what we believe is wrong we are headed for complete loss of any control or freedom in our lives.

If we can't question what's going on, are we really free to begin with? Or just sheep following the leader blindly likely into the slaughterhouse.

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Jess call me crazy, do as you please, worship Joe Biden the pedophile who can't even formulate a proper sentence. But watch as our country deteriorates to the likes we never could have imagined.

 

[OpiateKiller]

Just to be direct about this.

If you're a trump supporter (and American) and you actually want to see Trump try and use the military to stay in office.

You're not a patriot, you're a traitor. You are sympathetic to actions in an effort to take over the rightful civilian government system by force. That's treason.

Fortunately the military leadership is generally made up of actual patriots and I don't for a moment believe they'd go along with anything of the sort.

Just to be direct about this.

If you're a trump supporter (and American) and you actually want to see Trump try and use the military to stay in office.

You're not a patriot, you're a traitor. You are sympathetic to actions in an effort to take over the rightful civilian government system by force. That's treason.

Fortunately the military leadership is generally made up of actual patriots and I don't for a moment believe they'd go along with anything of the sort.

I do not believe Trump should use the military to stay in office. I think the election need's to be deemed non interfered, which has not happened. if you watching a video of trash bags full of Trump ballots doesn't make you question things you are literally a blind sheep with no ability to think rationally.

 

[alasdairm]

^ are you one of those people who thinks only people who agree with you are able to think rationally?

1. The 2nd amendment will be abolished, or ammo, guns, and prices / taxes will be so high it will destroy the ability to purchase firearms... etc.

thanks. we can revisit in 4 years and see if you were right.

If we can't question what's going on, are we really free to begin with?

you're questioning what's going on right in this thread. the first amendment to the constitution permits you to go stand at the end of your street - or outside the white house - and question what is going on.

alasdair

 

[alasdairm]

i meant to add, @OpiateKiller , that an amendment can't be abolished but it can be repealed by another constitutional amendment (as in the 21st).

a new amendment requires, per article v, to be proposed by two thirds of the house and senate (or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the state legislatures). then three-quarters of the states need to vote to ratify it.

as such, the president has little if no power in this area. if a new amendment repealing the 2nd amendment were to be ratified by the states, you'd have no reason to blame joe biden. a believer in states' rights would support that process, i assume...

alasdair

 

[OpiateKiller]

i meant to add, @OpiateKiller , that an amendment can't be abolished but it can be repealed by another constitutional amendment (as in the 21st).

a new amendment requires, per article v, to be proposed by two thirds of the house and senate (or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the state legislatures). then three-quarters of the states need to vote to ratify it.

as such, the president has little if no power in this area. if a new amendment repealing the 2nd amendment were to be ratified by the states, you'd have no reason to blame joe biden. a believer in states' rights would support that process, i assume...

alasdair

All valid points. I'm probably being paranoid. I just know there's so much the public doesn't know behind the scenes in governments.

IDK in my experience career politicians aren't good people. They get rich by passing and supporting bills and laws that benefit the rich, large corporations, or those funding their campaigns.

Joe Biden has been a politician for 50 years.

Maybe you're right, maybe he won't do a damn thing, maybe states will govern themselves, he'll be president and well all be fine and nothing bad will happen.

But understand - the constitution is just a piece of paper - they talked about suspending all constitutional rights when Corona virus hit.

And presidents can sign executive orders - basically doing whatever they please.

But yes you're right and no I can see both sides of the coin.

 

[Hylight]

i didn't get to see the video. i again regret to say.

 

[JessFR]

I do not believe Trump should use the military to stay in office. I think the election need's to be deemed non interfered, which has not happened. if you watching a video of trash bags full of Trump ballots doesn't make you question things you are literally a blind sheep with no ability to think rationally.

My standards of what constitutes evidences are probably very different to yours.

To me, the election was deemed lacking in interference when they went weeks and weeks and only managed to have their "evidence" laughed out of court by trump appointee judges.

 

[Jabberwocky]

i think the main conspiracy in America must be the one to totally invalidate Occam’s Razor.

 

[TheAcetylationGame]

i think the main conspiracy in America must be the one to totally invalidate Occam’s Razor.

Hahaha right! These conspiracy theories have so many disparate players all secretly cooperating to carry out some convoluted scheme while managing to evade detection... so unlikely.

And an operation that huge surely would leave some more definitive evidence

 

[JessFR]

Hahaha right! These conspiracy theories have so many disparate players all secretly cooperating to carry out some convoluted scheme while managing to evade detection... so unlikely.

And an operation that huge surely would leave some more definitive evidence

Finding evidence is easy. Just film some postal workers carrying bags of anything... Ever... At any point in time. Put it on YouTube and say they're carrying all trump ballots for disposal.

And the trumpists will lap it up and be sold.

Conspiracy theorists (which trump supporters often are) claim they just want truth, but the actual truth is they apply absolutely no scrutiny at all to any evidence they think backs up their existing beliefs.

And call fake news anything else that contradicts it no matter how solidly validated

 

[TheAcetylationGame]

Finding evidence is easy. Just film some postal workers carrying bags of anything... Ever... At any point in time. Put it on YouTube and say they're carrying all trump ballots for disposal.

And the trumpists will lap it up and be sold.

Conspiracy theorists (which trump supporters often are) claim they just want truth, but the actual truth is they apply absolutely no scrutiny at all to any evidence they think backs up their existing beliefs.

And call fake news anything else that contradicts it no matter how solidly validated

Exactly! What that video showed was something being burned - it was claimed that the bags contained trump ballots and was part of some voter fraud scheme - but those are just baseless claims tacked on and not what the video ‘evidence’ shows

Yeah this stuff is certainly not credible if you’ve been taught the most basic critical thinking skills

 

[JessFR]

Exactly! What that video showed was something being burned - it was claimed that the bags contained trump ballots and was part of some voter fraud scheme - but those are just baseless claims tacked on and not what the video ‘evidence’ shows

Yeah this stuff is certainly not credible if you’ve been taught the most basic critical thinking skills

Babhaa, I didn't even watch the video. It's amusing that my description is still correct because all the bs "evidence" is the same.

 

[TheAcetylationGame]

Babhaa, I didn't even watch the video. It's amusing that my description is still correct because all the bs "evidence" is the same.

Oh nah man the deleted video was something different but op mentioned the burning bag bs as evidence to support the conspiracy touted in the deleted video.

it was just a rather outrageous propaganda video. He claimed that the media and tech companies and democrats were all infiltrated by the Chinese communist party who are the ‘real virus’ wreaking havoc on America and a whole load of other trumpist nonsense. Joe Biden receiving billions from the communists, trump being the only hero capable of thwarting the red menace etc etc

 

[TheInvisibleStoner]

If one thing I agree with Jess is her trump views. If you support anything of this, you are a traitor.

I didn't see the video, but can imagine what its about. Trump is going bye bye 100% He is also being a total prick on the way out since he knows its over. Nothing I would not expect from him.

Who cares about the fraud. Just goes to show you how bad people want him out. He shouldn't of even had a 1st term. One thing we cannot dispute is his last rounds of pardons. Guy is done. Going to celebrate on like mad when Biden gets inaugurated. Might even go down there if my new job doesn't start me yet by the 20th. As my main buddy is just as anti trump as me and been talking about it. Haven't been down there since 8th grade graduation. Would be like the road trip of a lifetime.

 

[OpiateKiller]

If one thing I agree with Jess is her trump views. If you support anything of this, you are a traitor.

I didn't see the video, but can imagine what its about. Trump is going bye bye 100% He is also being a total prick on the way out since he knows its over. Nothing I would not expect from him.

Who cares about the fraud. Just goes to show you how bad people want him out. He shouldn't of even had a 1st term. One thing we cannot dispute is his last rounds of pardons. Guy is done. Going to celebrate on like mad when Biden gets inaugurated. Might even go down there if my new job doesn't start me yet by the 20th. As my main buddy is just as anti trump as me and been talking about it. Haven't been down there since 8th grade graduation. Would be like the road trip of a lifetime.

You’re smart. Why would so many politicians want Trump out? The Chinese hate Trump. Because he slapped them with billions of dollars in trade tarrifs and was bringing jobs back to America.

Trump may not conduct himself in an elegant fashion, but is that what fucking matters to you? Cause it doesn’t to me. I want a free nation under God that’s all I want.

Calling me a traitor is ridiculous I would fight and die for the PEOPLE of this country. But not for some corrupt government who won’t even send us $600 when they’ve destroyed our economy effectively

it’s like anything that scares you people is a conspiracy. Wake up to the real world.

If you truly research this shit, you would see what I see.

Trump was in the works with a new trade deal with China dating back to October.

In the paperwork, the fine print the Chinese stated they could back out of the deal in the event of a global pandemic.

Chinas government is fucking calculated. They are ingenious in the worst way. US intelligence has proof Corona was actively spreading dating back to mid October 2019. The communist party didn’t warn the world until February.

There are scientists who have come forward and said that they can prove COVID was manipulated in a laboratory and was a man made bioweapon. Released at a calculated time to cripple the US. And it’s done just that.

Corona virus under a microscope is like a nuclear bomb. There’s strands of HIV, SARS, etc. it wasn’t no fucking accident this was planned and carried out.

you know why Trump calls it the China Virus? Because the pentagon knows this was A calculated attack on the world.

but war now isn’t war. It’s calculated decisions Chess not
Checkers. If we go to real war with China the world will likely end.

and don’t call me fucking racist my girlfriend is adopted from China. I love her to death. But that regime wants to control the world. We know it. Russia knows it. Why do you think Russia didn’t want Clinton in office? Because the Us and China would align and cause who knows what chaos

 

[TheInvisibleStoner]

Because he is a crook.

He vetoed the defense bill 2 days ago which now means military workers are not getting paid. Among countless other things.

He has pardoned crooks. And just pardoned another batch.

Even the stimulus bill that america has been waiting for months for....trump has still not signed. Effectively millions as of today have lost payments. Not to mention that bill is needed for other stuff like funding for the vaccine to get delivered.

He has held dangerous rally after rally.

In regards to our economy. Do you know what he started in 9/19? Way before covid. Its unlikely you do. Look it up.

He has now turned his owned party against him. There is nothing free about trump. He is out for himself. Even the community in FL does not want him. While the rest of the word suffering waiting for the fat fuck to sign the bill...

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PALM BEACH, FLA. >> President Donald Trump spent his Christmas golfing in Florida as a government shutdown looms and COVID relief hangs in the balance.

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He is over in florida.

Even his own wife does not care for him.

He fired the chief of cybersecurity just like that. Which cannot be done.

He has ruined relations with just about everyone.

I can go on and on. He is a child in a mans body is all. Never even deserved a first term. He is the most reckless president ever. And will go down in history as the worst president in history.

 

[OpiateKiller]

Babhaa, I didn't even watch the video. It's amusing that my description is still correct because all the bs "

You saying you didn’t even watch the video proves you are unwilling to even consider anything I’m saying as possible. And that fact alone means you are close minded. I listen to what you write. I consider it could be true. But you can’t do the opposite and it’s sad really

when you’re convinced you already know everything you learn nothing. A wise man or woman knows he knows nothing in reality to the vast knowledge in the world

 

[TheInvisibleStoner]

Right now. Because of simply trump our country is the most vulnerable it has been in decades. Because of trump. What do you say about this @OpiateKiller ?

Lets not even talk about the stimulus bill. Lets talk about the defense bill that was vetoed. Do you know what this bill was for? Get off youtube and start looking at the whole picture and maybe you will figure out why the country wants this guy out so bad they will go through any length to do it.

 

[OpiateKiller]

Because he is a crook.

He vetoed the defense bill 2 days ago which now means military workers are not getting paid. Among countless other things.

He has pardoned crooks. And just pardoned another batch.

Even the stimulus bill that america has been waiting for months for....trump has still not signed. Effectively millions as of today have lost payments. Not to mention that bill is needed for other stuff like funding for the vaccine to get delivered.

He has held dangerous rally after rally.

In regards to our economy. Do you know what he started in 9/19? Way before covid. Its unlikely you do. Look it up.

He has now turned his owned party against him. There is nothing free about trump. He is out for himself. Even the community in FL does not want him. While the rest of the word suffering waiting for the fat fuck to sign the bill...

Trump golfs in Florida as COVID relief hangs in the balance | Honolulu Star-Advertiser

PALM BEACH, FLA. >> President Donald Trump spent his Christmas golfing in Florida as a government shutdown looms and COVID relief hangs in the balance.

www.staradvertiser.com

He is over in florida.

Even his own wife does not care for him.

He fired the chief of cybersecurity just like that. Which cannot be done.

He has ruined relations with just about everyone.

I can go on and on. He is a child in a mans body is all. Never even deserved a first term. He is the most reckless president ever. And will go down in history as the worst president in history.

Funny because 80 million Americans consider him to be the best president this country has ever seen.

you know who they are? Yeah some rednecks yeah some dumb fucks. But also people like Rand Paul, hero vets and ex special forces. Patriotic Americans. Not dumb fucks.

yes the world has a lot of dumb fucks.
There’s dumb fucks
Who support Biden and Trump .
It’s inevitable not everyone is educated