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Conspiracies The Plot To Steal America - Watch this video with an OPEN MIND

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OpiateKiller said:
You saying you didn’t even watch the video proves you are unwilling to even consider anything I’m saying as possible. And that fact alone means you are close minded. I listen to what you write. I consider it could be true. But you can’t do the opposite and it’s sad really

when you’re convinced you already know everything you learn nothing. A wise man or woman knows he knows nothing in reality to the vast knowledge in the world
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I've already considered it, I've already looked into it and found no evidence.

I have seen what passes for evidence over and over again and I'm not gonna waste my time watching every YouTube video anyone puts up.

It's all a scam.
You drown your opponent in easily manufactured meaningless evidence, and if they ever stop looking at it you claim they're close minded.

It's crap. Not all evidence is equally worth consideration. And youtube evidence is the bottom of the barrel because it's the most likely to be this kind of thing.

The real evidence was for court, where you face sanction if you knowingly propose endless bad evidence. And rest assured I looked at what evidence they tried to present there, and there was nothing to it. Which is why the judges, trump appointee judges even, universally threw it out.
 
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OpiateKiller said:
I’ve seen the leaked video of Hunter having sex with a minor.

You don’t find real info on google. You find it on Tor and the dark web. But you probably aren’t smart enough to navigate those things so here we are...

I won’t provide links or information because it could be self incriminating. Even if I’m running Tails and on a VPN not worth the risk. I won’t download or go near that shit again it was vile and disgusting. He’s a disgrace of a human being who deserves the death penalty.
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Oh this one again.

"I could prove it if you'd just watch my child porn!"

Undoubtedly my favorite conspiracy theorist argument of the year. :D
 
OpiateKiller said:
Funny because 80 million Americans consider him to be the best president this country has ever seen.
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what?

he received 74.2M votes in the election. just because somebody voted for him doesn't necessarily mean they think he's "the best president this country has ever seen", does it?

and where do you get the other 5.8M?

alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
what?

he received 74.2M votes in the election. just because somebody voted for him doesn't necessarily mean they think he's "the best president this country has ever seen", does it?

and where do you get the other 5.8M?

alasdair
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Trump logic everybody. :D

X voted for me,??? X thinks I'm the best president ever!
 
OpiateKiller said:
I’ve seen the leaked video of Hunter having sex with a minor.

You don’t find real info on google. You find it on Tor and the dark web. But you probably aren’t smart enough to navigate those things so here we are...

I won’t provide links or information because it could be self incriminating. Even if I’m running Tails and on a VPN not worth the risk. I won’t download or go near that shit again it was vile and disgusting. He’s a disgrace of a human being who deserves the death penalty.
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Oh damn you got those 1337 hack3r skills. So everything on google is part of the conspiracy to bring down trump too?
 
JessFR said:
He knows how to download and install a browser!

Ooooh teach us your ways hacker-San!

Oh right he can't, apparently saying you watch child porn and use tor isn't self incriminating but linking to tor browser is.
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I don’t watch shit it and don’t say it’s mine. That’s disgusting.

It was part of a document on his laptop. I didn’t look for it. I was looking into his collusion with his Dad in his illegal business dealings.

You can make me out to be the enemy all you want, I just don’t wanna see America turn to shit. I’d hope you would want the same... even if we don’t think the same
Things are causing America to be shit.

anyone can use Tor, but it’s not that simple to remain entirely untraceable. Why do you think DNM
Vendors get busted all the time? Cause they fuck up.

I’ll give Biden a chance, the second he starts trying to ban or tax firearms
I’m joining the ranks of those willing to die for our freedoms.

Molon Aabe - or come and take them mother fucker is the expression
 
alasdairm said:
what?

he received 74.2M votes in the election. just because somebody voted for him doesn't necessarily mean they think he's "the best president this country has ever seen", does it?

and where do you get the other 5.8M?

alasdair
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it’s called an expression / exaggeration. It wasn’t meant to be literal.

it was an estimation. An expression. You know that...
 
OpiateKiller said:
I don’t watch shit it and don’t say it’s mine. That’s disgusting.

It was part of a document on his laptop. I didn’t look for it. I was looking into his collusion with his Dad in his illegal business dealings.

You can make me out to be the enemy all you want, I just don’t wanna see America turn to shit. I’d hope you would want the same... even if we don’t think the same
Things are causing America to be shit.

anyone can use Tor, but it’s not that simple to remain entirely untraceable. Why do you think DNM
Vendors get busted all the time? Cause they fuck up.

I’ll give Biden a chance, the second he starts trying to ban or tax firearms
I’m joining the ranks of those willing to die for our freedoms.

Molon Aabe - or come and take them mother fucker is the expression
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No ones gonna take your fucking guns.

Of course I don't wanna see America go to shit. That's exactly why I hate trump and want him out of office ASAP. and why I despise the treasonous fanatics who wanna use force to keep trump in office against the will of the American people.
 
JessFR said:
No ones gonna take your fucking guns.

Of course I don't wanna see America go to shit. That's exactly why I hate trump and want him out of office ASAP. and why I despise the treasonous fanatics who wanna use force to keep trump in office against the will of the American people.
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I don't agree with keeping a president in office through force. Even if I support Trump, I know that's exactly how Hitler came to power. He changed laws and essentially made it so he was the dictator.

Trump hasn't tried any of that crap. He's just called for a fair election.

But OK I'm with you. but you'll see, they want our guns and they want them badly.
 
OpiateKiller said:
I don't agree with keeping a president in office through force. Even if I support Trump, I know that's exactly how Hitler came to power. He changed laws and essentially made it so he was the dictator.

Trump hasn't tried any of that crap. He's just called for a fair election.

But OK I'm with you. but you'll see, they want our guns and they want them badly.
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Wrong. Trump appointed a post master and got him to sabotage mail in voting in an effort to try and influence the election in his favor. He worked to delay mail in vote counting so he could cast doubt on it.

He tried to have lawful vote counting stopped because he knew they were Democrat votes.

He openly called for his supporters to come intimidate voters. Rather than letting the proper appointed republican poll watchers do their job.

Since losing he has repeatedly called for republican state legislatures to disregard the vote and appoint their own electors. How the fuck is that calling for a fair election?

Then there's trying to ignore the electoral college vote and submit their own vote.

Trumps not trying to ensure a fair election, he's trying to stay in power using undemocratic and increasingly legally questionable methods.

And now he's seeing if he can just use the military to stay in office by force.

And as for your guns. I heard this crap for 8 years under Obama. It never happened.

First it was "it'll happen soon as he gets in power". Then "any day now". Then "soon as he's reelected". Then "just before the end of his term".

Theres no realistic way for the president to take your guns so it's not gonna happen.
 
JessFR said:
No ones gonna take your fucking guns.

Of course I don't wanna see America go to shit. That's exactly why I hate trump and want him out of office ASAP. and why I despise the treasonous fanatics who wanna use force to keep trump in office against the will of the American people.
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And please never accuse me of "watching child porn"

that's fucked up. When I was at my lowest point and in jail I was in a unit with a caretaker who had raped his mentally disabled patient, not only that, but he was HIV positive and he gave the kid HIV and that's how they knew he was sexually abusing him after the kid was able to finally tell his family through some new technology cause he couldn't talk right. The child was 15 and mentally handicapped.

Every single day I considered ending his life. And let me fucking tell you there were days I had my lunch tray in my hand staring at that motherfucker and I was really fucking close.

And i told that fucking scum bag. You do a single thing to piss me off and I will end your fucking life. He spent about 3 days in his cell after that comment.
 
OpiateKiller said:
And please never accuse me of "watching child porn"
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Ok well this is what you said...

OpiateKiller said:
I’ve seen the leaked video of Hunter having sex with a minor.
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My accusation doesn't strike me as a huge stretch of what you actually said. But sure, if it's inaccurate or misleading I apologize.

EDIT: OK I wanna expand on this.

@OpiateKiller I sincerely apologize for insinuating you watch child porn if it's not true.

But here's where I'm coming from.

I have seen in the past conspiracy minded trump voters seemingly imply that they have been watching pornography involving minors, iirc even named by them as child porn, looking to see if hunter Biden is in it.

As I'm sure you can understand, the idea that they're watching child porn just to see if hunter Bidens in it is a notion I'm not especially friendly towards.

If that honestly doesn't describe what you're talking about though then I apologize for suggesting it does.
 
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It find it fascinating that the fight between the two tribes in America is over the highly speculative potential loss of fairly conceptual freedoms that the vast majority of Americans don’t actually ever need or think about as they go about their lives.

It’s so different here, and I think in most countries. If the government or opposition announces a policy voters ask themselves the following question:

1 Will it increase or decrease jobs for Australians
2. Will it increase or decrease GDP vs the National Debt
3. Will it increase or decrease the cost of healthcare for my and my family
4. Will it improve or decrease the quality of education available for my children.
5. Will it increase or decrease the value of my house and my retirement income

Every election basically turns on these points and all other issues are marginal. It’s probably how at the end of the day most Australians get along in such a multicultural and diverse country. We just expect our political leaders to be growth, health and education oriented effective managers. We don’t need any guidance from them on how to be Australian.
 
OpiateKiller said:
You know that...
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actually i don't. i don't know you. i know nothing about you.

so i do you the simple courtesy of taking your posts at face value.

when to have to exaggerate to that extent to make your point, i think it just devalues your point.

but i guess that means that over 80 million americans who voted for joe biden think trump is the worst president ever :)

alasdair
 
Atelier3 said:
It find it fascinating that the fight between the two tribes in America is over the highly speculative potential loss of fairly conceptual freedoms that the vast majority of Americans don’t actually ever need or think about as they go about their lives.

It’s so different here, and I think in most countries. If the government or opposition announces a policy voters ask themselves the following question:

1 Will it increase or decrease jobs for Australians
2. Will it increase or decrease GDP vs the National Debt
3. Will it increase or decrease the cost of healthcare for my and my family
4. Will it improve or decrease the quality of education available for my children.
5. Will it increase or decrease the value of my house and my retirement income

Every election basically turns on these points and all other issues are marginal. It’s probably how at the end of the day most Australians get along in such a multicultural and diverse country. We just expect our political leaders to be growth, health and education oriented effective managers. We don’t need any guidance from them on how to be Australian.
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Wouldn't it be lovely if the US government fucked off and stopped trying to tell us how to be an American. I would love that.
 
alasdairm said:
actually i don't. i don't know you. i know nothing about you.

so i do you the simple courtesy of taking your posts at face value.

when to have to exaggerate to that extent to make your point, i think it just devalues your point.

but i guess that means that over 80 million americans who voted for joe biden think trump is the worst president ever :)

alasdair
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Ok ok you made me laugh with that last sentence. Thanks I needed it.

Haha. shit we all need a laugh and a deep breath sometimes.

Especially in a detox.
 
Atelier3 said:
It find it fascinating that the fight between the two tribes in America is over the highly speculative potential loss of fairly conceptual freedoms that the vast majority of Americans don’t actually ever need or think about as they go about their lives.
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It's called "principles".

Like "I may not agree with what you say but will defend your right to say it".

As opposed to the more Australian versions "you have a right to free speech but not to offend community standards!"

:D

I've been hating on America a lot lately cause everything has been so fucked up. But I haven't forgotten the shit that annoys me about Australia.

Like how women can't even legally carry pepper spray. Made all the worse by how many times I've had Australians defend that state of affairs to me.
 
JessFR said:
It's called "principles".

Like "I may not agree with what you say but will defend your right to say it".

As opposed to the more Australian versions "you have a right to free speech but not to offend community standards!"

:D

I've been hating on America a lot lately cause everything has been so fucked up. But I haven't forgotten the shit that annoys me about Australia.
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I hear you. But affordable universal health care, quality education, affordable housing and community cohesion can also be seen as principles. Quite good ones that don’t often result in mass shooting deaths, runaway crime, a giant underclass, and a lot of unrestrained fuckwits with megaphones.
 
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