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Fake ketamine in the UK

Bare_head said:
Thats super gross when we start seeing our beloved ketamine cut with that shite.. where is most of the ketamine coming from in the uk now? Thought it was india china mostly.
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From the big docks. Wales, London, etc. Straight from China, India, Korea, etc.
Its not really manufactured here as far as I know.

And yup, super gross alright.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Pets at Home by the looks of it...
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Yeah and the Asian foods store, kilogram of MSG shards for £2. Seen it sold PURE as k before, youth I know bought a qL for way more what I'd pay for pure from a lad he never met (idiot almost deserved to get stitched but still, not) he bring it to me to look at and I did tests and it literally had not one shard of in k in the whole 12.5g. Scummy scouse bastards just walking round down south with pre bagged weights of msg preying on drunk punters in the street 'oi lad dya want any k' was literally what he said, aparantly.
 
@LoginNotSecure apart from the burnt bits (naughty chef) that does look like it could easily fool people as a K cookup, especially if it was say 50/50 and the other half of the cookup was proper cooked k formation.

Terrible, terrible news 🤦‍♂️

Good work reporting that.
 
I think you could quite easily make one big shard crystal if you cooked it much slower and evenly than I, rather than just whacking it on full heat, I also used an enamel bowl, so hardly ideal.
 
The 'sugar granule Ket' is strong as king kong. People always chat about shard but the best stuf imo is the finer crystal :)
 
Leva in K is bad fucking news

It's beeen the scourge of cocaine scene now for a good few years. Great cut for the suppliers - mimics the 'fishscale' look, freebases alongside the actual cocaine so impossible to tell if it's present by that method, apparently enhances the effect too.

Too bad that it's fucking poison eh. I know someone irl who was hospitalised by it via coke consumption, and someone else who suffers bad reactions to tiny amounts of it too.

It was always thought that the Leva cut was being added at source due to availability of it for the farmers etc. Now it's clear that anyone can buy the shit.

I'm pretty much a pacifist but it would be difficult not to be violent towards someone I knew was cutting drugs with this shit to sell, same as with fent
 
bobdrops said:
The 'sugar granule Ket' is strong as king kong. People always chat about shard but the best stuf imo is the finer crystal :)
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I agree the best stuff I've had recently is the fine grain stuff, the stronger one of the 2 fine one I've had is the one that smells kinda perfumey
 
I had 5g of the fine stuff yesterday/night before, sniffed most of it but did 4 x IV hits and 1 hit of k+coke, was lovely
 
jhjhsdi said:
I agree the best stuff I've had recently is the fine grain stuff, the stronger one of the 2 fine one I've had is the one that smells kinda perfumey
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I think the best I've had has been the rocky stuff, but that's cause it's psychedelic even at lower doses
What's thing fine powder stuff look lik, any pics?
Would it not b even easier to cut tho?
 
matt<3ketamine said:
I think the best I've had has been the rocky stuff, but that's cause it's psychedelic even at lower doses
What's thing fine powder stuff look lik, any pics?
Would it not b even easier to cut tho?
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I did quite a few hits of the the Rocky stuff last night - it was weird.
Smelt really like burning plastic when cooking in the spoon and didn't give the usual menthol/minty taste in the throat.
I did a few small hits and it was almost like weaker than snorting, not much of a rush.
Then I did a really big hit about 500mg and faceplanted the floor busting my nose open really badly lol came round and my mate had put a pillow under my head and half of it was soaked in blood and so was my t-shirt ffs lol got a massive bruise across the bridge of my nose now and a bump on my head, great fun

It's really good to snort, I've always wanted to see what it was like iv, I doubt I'll be doing it again

As for the fine it just looks like really fine sugar, yes it would technically be easier to cut but for some reason doesn't hardly ever seem to be *touchwood*
But I have seen it cut before in the past, not sure what it was with, I think we suspected either MSM powder or creatine
 
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specialspack said:
I had what I think is my 2nd ever experience of cut/fake ketamine in over 20 years of on/off usage.

Very large long crystals, much wider than the "shard" type K of the past few years. Crushed some up to try out - whilst dumping the rest in water to recrystallize.
The few lines I did were very weak, subjectively - there was an effect but a mild one.

When I tried to dissolve the crystals in warm water, a lot of "foam" appeared, and white particles that didn't dissolve completely. Gently recrystallized over 50 deg, and the residue left was a waxy paste, not drying out to crystals at all.

Anyone else experienced this?
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Well,at least you got recrystallization pinned.
A Art of its own. 👍
 
Noticed a lot of stuff recently has a peppery aroma to it, wondered if someone is doing a Chilli P or something more sinister eg bad batch or covering a cut
 
AdamG said:
Noticed a lot of stuff recently has a peppery aroma to it, wondered if someone is doing a Chilli P or something more sinister eg bad batch or covering a cut
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What region? And what crystal shape/batch?
I haven't noticed it. All we've had down south west recently is shard.
Its not 100% pure, defo some big MSG shards in the mix, but id say its only a 5-10% cut at most.
No chilli/pepper smell/taste to report.
 
East, long shard. Thought it was just someone having a giraffe with a signature tbh but you never know
 
G_Chem said:
Tranced, K gets cut more often these days since it’s populrity has done nothing but grown and grown. Idk about UK but in my neck of the woods K use only increases each and every year. 2010 had hardly any K users around here, 2020 and everyone does the shit.

We’ve had nothing but amazing quality around here so I wonder if due to increased worldwide demand it’s draining quality elsewhere? Americans I think are willing to pay more too, based on what I’ve seen we pay about double what ya’ll pay in the UK but it’s never shitty always the exact same quality (either chunk or tiny needle shards).

-GC
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Where you from g_chem? I've definitely had cut & weak ket these past few years but it mostly seemed inert (and from comparing to wedinos).

I know a lad who is really cool and been around a long while; it's pretty much consistently the same stuff and quality, he's supplying a lot of people and was the first I knew of in Newcastle to start getting the Chinese s ket way back when, after the India ban. A tiny bump has me pretty ketted as long as I give my tolerance a week to reset, especially promising given the amount I've gained this past year and the fact I first tried it way back in 2003, and have been through ridiculous amounts given the time period and the past year.

Fair play @LoginNotSecure, those photos are very helpful. I think I've seen and tried this stuff off the naughty web year before last. People seem to crush ket down and mix it with what may well be that. I think it's incorrect to assume it's always r isomer that is used, mind. S ket is strong and easier to buy pure if you know what you're doing. It wouldn't be hard to crush say shards or rock let down to smaller pieces and add this. @specialspack - what was the kind of ket that made you make the post like, consistency wise? What was the variation in texture? Any photos? Sorry if I missed this. actually, just checked this but would love a photo. @jhjhsdi - can you post the photo that was in your profile photo, preferably not resized and at Imgur?

IMO the good ket is either, as has been said, small uniform needlepoint shards of racemic, bigger needlepoint shards of s ket, very big shards of s key, or huge rock crystals of s ket. Any of these could be cut, especially after being crushed. FTR I've posted numerous, large photos in the eadd ketamine thread of good quality ket.

Anyway, I also had a recent experience of what was potentially this stuff, and whatever it was was nasty, nasty, nasty.

Basically my friend said somebody he knew, same lad who had asked me if I had tried "bubble/mkat" when it was good in a patronising manner. Kid was about 21 and got absolutely slaughtered by me, given I was trying the stuff by about page 2-3 of the original EADD thread when the reports started coming in thick & fast and it wasn't even called mkat. But I digress; kid was a prick is the point.

Anyway my friend said he could get us free samples of ketamine which was being sold by this very same kid for £200 an Oz as he "just wanted to move it fast" - which as anyone knows is just fucking ridiculous. Anyway I told my mate it was obviously shit but he was very eager to get a load of ket so ridiculously cheap, especially given how much he was doing. I told him it was bunk and the kid clearly wanted it gone, so I told hik to get us some free gram samples (?!) just to prove a point.

It was big, slightly odd looking shards. Here are the characteristics:

- it was almost moist at first. Didn't look right. Reminded me of when let was being cut with cheap mephedrone for a short time. Mushy and wrong, but seemed to dry.
- I crushed up a line and it nearly broke a DVD case, even after rolling the bag with a coffee jar. Same thing to a cd case and it made very loud crackles as you tried to crush. It was very hard to get to a fine powder.
- It was quite caustic and tasted rank. Sort of salt-esque.
- I had one bump and and I could swear my dexamphetamine script made me hot and gurny. Usually ket kills my dex buzz, this did the opposite.
- I had a line later on and it seemed to do nothing, but was just quite minging
- I didn't sniff any more for about three weeks, which says it all. It had dried and I crushed it as fine as I could. Nothing after a gram. Saved some for wedinosnas intended.
- my friend ended up so hot and sweaty from taking a g or two one night that his girlfriend had to cool him with cold towels.

The thing is, I got this sample for wedinos, but when I submitted the sample it was about a few days before wedinos last shut down.

Somebody around this period in Newcastle, a student, died of ketamine overdose which is really weird. Widely reported in the media this summer.

Unfortunately, my wedinos sample has been seemingly lost to the ether, and I'll never know what it was, even though wedinos posted all/most of the delayed results; they never posted mine.I might email them or try to get another free sample if it's still about. Minging stuff though, and god knows what. Not going up my nose again. Will try and find photos.

BTW I think it's unfair to say r ket is shit/weak. I've had some ridiculously strong r ket, and at the end of the day nobody thought it was weak when it came from India. It's 50/50 s ket and r ket combined, and the r component is the only bit that seems to give me the shifting, sliding CEV's. I absolutely do not have visual s kets holes/experiences, ever since it came from china, just the ego death and fleeting mild images; and I've sniffed my way through enough grams in one sitting to put it to the test. The racemic component is very active, and S ket is akin to smoking THC without all the other actives like CBD.

The thing is, so many people are used to sniffing Chinese s let now, and have a tolerance to match. The clean looking, racemic, small sharded needlepoint can be very strong, very rare, and not lacking the original fluffy ketamine journey to boot. S KET is literally missing the R in place of raw power, and it shows.

I can still remember when everyone at glade 2008 BL camp had samples of s ket, and most of us agreed it was lackluster and missing the proper hole. IMO there is probably a very obvious reason in there that a year or two later after MXE was so widely rejected, those very same Chinese chemists started synthing S ket, specifically, and we were all wondering what this "knockout ket" was, and claiming it was tiletamine (me included).
 
Tranced said:
Where you from g_chem? I've definitely had cut & weak ket these past few years but it mostly seemed inert (and from comparing to wedinos).

I know a lad who is really cool and been around a long while; it's pretty much consistently the same stuff and quality, he's supplying a lot of people and was the first I knew of in Newcastle to start getting the Chinese s ket way back when, after the India ban. A tiny bump has me pretty ketted as long as I give my tolerance a week to reset, especially promising given the amount I've gained this past year and the fact I first tried it way back in 2003, and have been through ridiculous amounts given the time period and the past year.

Fair play @LoginNotSecure, those photos are very helpful. I think I've seen and tried this stuff off the naughty web year before last. People seem to crush ket down and mix it with what may well be that. I think it's incorrect to assume it's always r isomer that is used, mind. S ket is strong and easier to buy pure if you know what you're doing. It wouldn't be hard to crush say shards or rock let down to smaller pieces and add this. @specialspack - what was the kind of ket that made you make the post like, consistency wise? What was the variation in texture? Any photos? Sorry if I missed this. actually, just checked this but would love a photo. @jhjhsdi - can you post the photo that was in your profile photo, preferably not resized and at Imgur?

IMO the good ket is either, as has been said, small uniform needlepoint shards of racemic, bigger needlepoint shards of s ket, very big shards of s key, or huge rock crystals of s ket. Any of these could be cut, especially after being crushed. FTR I've posted numerous, large photos in the eadd ketamine thread of good quality ket.

Anyway, I also had a recent experience of what was potentially this stuff, and whatever it was was nasty, nasty, nasty.

Basically my friend said somebody he knew, same lad who had asked me if I had tried "bubble/mkat" when it was good in a patronising manner. Kid was about 21 and got absolutely slaughtered by me, given I was trying the stuff by about page 2-3 of the original EADD thread when the reports started coming in thick & fast and it wasn't even called mkat. But I digress; kid was a prick is the point.

Anyway my friend said he could get us free samples of ketamine which was being sold by this very same kid for £200 an Oz as he "just wanted to move it fast" - which as anyone knows is just fucking ridiculous. Anyway I told my mate it was obviously shit but he was very eager to get a load of ket so ridiculously cheap, especially given how much he was doing. I told him it was bunk and the kid clearly wanted it gone, so I told hik to get us some free gram samples (?!) just to prove a point.

It was big, slightly odd looking shards. Here are the characteristics:

- it was almost moist at first. Didn't look right. Reminded me of when let was being cut with cheap mephedrone for a short time. Mushy and wrong, but seemed to dry.
- I crushed up a line and it nearly broke a DVD case, even after rolling the bag with a coffee jar. Same thing to a cd case and it made very loud crackles as you tried to crush. It was very hard to get to a fine powder.
- It was quite caustic and tasted rank. Sort of salt-esque.
- I had one bump and and I could swear my dexamphetamine script made me hot and gurny. Usually ket kills my dex buzz, this did the opposite.
- I had a line later on and it seemed to do nothing, but was just quite minging
- I didn't sniff any more for about three weeks, which says it all. It had dried and I crushed it as fine as I could. Nothing after a gram. Saved some for wedinosnas intended.
- my friend ended up so hot and sweaty from taking a g or two one night that his girlfriend had to cool him with cold towels.

The thing is, I got this sample for wedinos, but when I submitted the sample it was about a few days before wedinos last shut down.

Somebody around this period in Newcastle, a student, died of ketamine overdose which is really weird. Widely reported in the media this summer.

Unfortunately, my wedinos sample has been seemingly lost to the ether, and I'll never know what it was, even though wedinos posted all/most of the delayed results; they never posted mine.I might email them or try to get another free sample if it's still about. Minging stuff though, and god knows what. Not going up my nose again. Will try and find photos.

BTW I think it's unfair to say r ket is shit/weak. I've had some ridiculously strong r ket, and at the end of the day nobody thought it was weak when it came from India. It's 50/50 s ket and r ket combined, and the r component is the only bit that seems to give me the shifting, sliding CEV's. I absolutely do not have visual s kets holes/experiences, ever since it came from china, just the ego death and fleeting mild images; and I've sniffed my way through enough grams in one sitting to put it to the test. The racemic component is very active, and S ket is akin to smoking THC without all the other actives like CBD.

The thing is, so many people are used to sniffing Chinese s let now, and have a tolerance to match. The clean looking, racemic, small sharded needlepoint can be very strong, very rare, and not lacking the original fluffy ketamine journey to boot. S KET is literally missing the R in place of raw power, and it shows.

I can still remember when everyone at glade 2008 BL camp had samples of s ket, and most of us agreed it was lackluster and missing the proper hole. IMO there is probably a very obvious reason in there that a year or two later after MXE was so widely rejected, those very same Chinese chemists started synthing S ket, specifically, and we were all wondering what this "knockout ket" was, and claiming it was tiletamine (me included).
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Im drunk but quick reply
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Yea i will post pic 2mw.
The salty semi moist cut you describe id guess was a form of MSG, or MSM.
the 'knockout ket' or 'blackout ket' around that era we also all guessed was tiletamine
 
jhjhsdi said:
the 'knockout ket' or 'blackout ket' around that era we also all guessed was tiletamine
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We did, and I was amongst the worst offenders for pushing the idea on here & amongst my friends (not my idea originally mind, i just bought into it), after which it seemed to spread such as things always do/did from bluelight. The the thing is, I've since laid out a pretty convincing argument on here numerous times that we likely never received ketamine which I won't bore anybody with again. There is a pretty funny thread somewhere with me debating some poor lad and I don't think he ever posted again. But you can probably find it by searching the terms ketamine tiletamine dancing and searching for the meme I posted near the end. I think I laid out a pretty solid argument there, and find it unlikely we ever had tiletamine. People seemed to be generallly in agreement, even if they were also involved at the time of the original threads/discussion.

You're right though that 'blackout ket' was the most commonly used term; I'd forgotten it, but it was stored in some far away memory, so thanks for that! =D
 
Thankyou all for info as Very New to Ket but had some
2F-DCK Sent to me with EU and Angel Dust sample.
Fuck it Seriously was Sweet But Strong as Fuck.
I found 6 parts EU mixed with 1 part 2F-DCK was unreal Snorted but listened to many on here and mixed it into water drink then added a Smidgen if Monkey for try All good.
I have tried to source more but China banned 2F and my Supplier has ceased supply.
Read up on 2F and seems one molecule change and 6x stronger than Ket.
I am seeking Old School Speed / Whiffer as am Old just had news my Cancer hasn't changed in 12 months and My Bloods are the Best Since 2012 when first diagnosed. Fucking unreal as have had more drugs in last 4 years since my 20's.
To just feel part of Life is Unreal and started with Mow Mow then Coke but too expensive luckily had 7 months this year of Best times ever So so Lucky.
But back on Slippery slide as run out but Gut Hernias are Back and unable to Lift.
Thanks to All you Guys & Gals for sharing as has helped me heaps. Greatly Appreciated.
Merry Fucking Xmas to All and May we All See 2022 with a Smile.✌️🥂👍
 
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