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Stimulants Cocaine to crack, should I do it?

jimdron said:
What are the chances of me getting at least average quality of crack if I would try to cook it myself from powder cocaine?

I have never done any hands-on operations like this. I can do cold water extraction, that’s the most serious operation that I did.

I don’t have particular recipe in mind yet.

I don’t wanna lose my 1g of coke, that’s what I worry about the most.
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Depends upon the quality of your powdered cocaine. IME, crack made from shitty coke still gives an intense high off the first pipe, but the comedown, jitters and fiending for that feeling will be intense. On the other hand, crack made from good quality coke can actually be satisfying for much longer, leads to less fiending and paranoia and has a smoother comedown.

Shit crack is a dealer's wet dream because it will always leave you wanting for more, but never satisfied...
 
"Whipped" vs. "Straight drop" crack, i believe.

Whipped is like 50/50 where straight drop is closer to pure. Straight drop the coke in the pyrex, or something.

I always see it advertised online as such.
 
madness00 said:
IMO IV coke is cleaner and less.. Jittery i guess
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Exactly. It's too perfect, I've never experienced side effects like I have smoking or sniffing it. No paranoia, jitteryness, nothing. It's the good exemplified, but there is a devasting price to pay to experience it. Especially how easy it is to reach the overdose spectrum, hearing loss, vision loss and then seizures is the difference between 10 milligrams sometimes.
 
did you guys who love it IV coke with heroin? or were you at least on some downer? i just can't imaging IV coke on its own being pleasant, just way too intense to the point of being stressful, but i'd speedball all day every day if it didn't ruin my life.
 
BellaJewel said:
So I’m curious, I’m someone who did blow for many years but never tried crack.
What happens when coke is cooked and we smoke it that is different from just doing blow? I really don’t get it...
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Its weird since I think coke is worse than crack. Crack comes on and off real quick.

But you are right, they are the same. Someone doing tons of coke will be in the same spot as someone doing tons of crack.
 
Yes and no. I was definitely a heroin and cocaine addict, but I rarely ever speedballed in the typical sense. The heroin just ruined the cocaine's full potential for me. It was bizarre, I could typically manage to do like one shot of heroin to start the day (but always IV cocaine first, it was the best shot of the day but also the most painful being in full blown withdrawals...something oddly satisfying about having the control to take away the intensified withdrawals with the soon to follow heroin shot), but then I could go until the next day sometimes without doing more heroin, and just non-stop repetivie cocaine. I'm talking 200+ injections of cocaine per day, it is honestly sickening thinking about, but that's just where it eventually led to for me.

IV cocaine just doesn't become uncomfortable like smoking does, until you reach the overdose spectrum, and you typically lose the ability to hear first where any uncomfortable feelings are probably muted. The overdose spectrum is so small compared to smoking it, I'm not quite sure how to describe it accurately.

I suppose just talking about this, I'm remembering I always had a heroin shot ready to go for when I'd reach overdose spectrum, and there were multiple occasions I had to rush to inject it quickly to come back down.
 
ffffaaaackkkkking hell i could not imagine 200 injections a day, wow, at my worst, which was a very short period, i was like 10-20 (though i was smoking a lot of both crack and heroin at the same time, and yeah it wouldn't surprise me if i smoked 200 pipes a day for a sustained period). i'm glad you got better its such a waste of life. its amazing how hollow that pleasure is when you get into recovery and are able to do something you're proud of, or that's pleasurable without involving a needle. like those pleasures are no where near as intense but they have an afterglow that imo makes them better.

tbh i think with all my speedballs towards the end i was reaching overdose territory. i still have tinnitus and my hearing is fucked due to the damage it did to my ears.

OP- i am sorry to take your thread off topic, but in a way, i'm glad, this is where craxck will take you and its better to hear first hand. your not special, it might be years before it gets you, but if you have a decent life now be prepared to lose everything if you choose to start using crack.
 
Last night I FaceTimed with a friend who was waiting for his dealer to bring him an 8 ball.
That white powder looked so perfect when it arrived I could almost smell it, despite the fact that I haven’t done blow since late 2010.
Before he cooked it with baking powder (or baking soda?) to make crack, which I’ve never tried, he did a line at my request while I watched.
I felt a certain amount of guilt at my encouragement of a friend to do drugs. On the other hand, he bought the coke w/o my knowledge and had the intention of making all of it into crack, and a bit of coke up his nose was likely the lesser of two evils.
I told him that I thought it was likely safer that he snort the coke than cook it but he has an infinite amount of drug knowledge and experience compared to me. I can see why he wouldn’t have wanted to stick with the blow up his nose.
As he enjoyed his crack, which he smoked, I asked how he felt at different moments. He described crack as an immediate, though short lived rush of euphoria that seemed to last perhaps 5 minutes before he wanted more. Compare this to snorting blow, the euphoria may not be such an immediate and intense rush, but it lasts a good 20-25 minutes before you want another line.
I hope this has been helpful to you. I don’t have any experience with crack. I have a lot of cocaine experience and I’ve seen what crack can do to people. The difference between the two is like comparing Tramadol to Heroin. One is a very mild opiate, that some people get addicted to. The other is an advanced opiate that people lose everything they ever valued in their life for. I think you need to consider that before you proceed. As my friend told me last night, he didn’t mind doing a line 1st, before making the crack. But once you’ve had crack, blow will hold no interest for you. Best of luck to you.
 
Dude you got a wife and kids, this ain’t gonna end well if you truly care about them..

-GC
 
jimdron said:
What are the chances of me getting at least average quality of crack if I would try to cook it myself from powder cocaine?

I have never done any hands-on operations like this. I can do cold water extraction, that’s the most serious operation that I did.

I don’t have particular recipe in mind yet.

I don’t wanna lose my 1g of coke, that’s what I worry about the most.
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1 gram of coke will get you just enough crack to convince yourself you need to go get more. Don’t do it. It’s a waste.
 
No, don’t do it.

If you’ve never seen anybody do it, you will most likely get terrible/no yield- even if you do find a guide. Do you know exactly what’s in your coke? I doubt it’s pure. Depending what’s cut in your coke will affect the output you get.

Don’t go from coke to crack. My fiancé was addicted to crack from stepping up like this for 2 years, and it ruined his life. He went from a middle class family to being homeless. Only after two rehabs, felonies, and current probation has he quit. Yet, he still talks about it all the time and it makes me worry about him relapsing when he’s off probation.

If you like coke, you’ll love crack. Don’t open this Pandora’s box man.

Stick to coke. If you try to cook it right now with the information you’ve given us, you’ll 99% lose it or get really shitty product.
 
trashpanda206 said:
1 gram of coke will get you just enough crack to convince yourself you need to go get more. Don’t do it. It’s a waste.
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Yup. The come-down is nothing compared to other stimulants. Crack WILL convince you, and make you find a way to do more.

This is why it’s so dangerous to mess around with. This is why my fiancé two years back started dealing to pay for his crack habit and now have several felonies.
 
Thanks guys and gals. I really find it very valuable to have someone to talk about it. For now I am doing snorting coke, liking it and crack idea faded into background. And I am glad about it because I DO believe your warnings.

But you know, these warnings of “cannot stop”, “crack is nothing like snorting coke” just increase my interest mostly. So, we’ll see. And going beyond my immediate question for this thread - it raises interesting question about how warnings of risky behavior does not really work for folks like me, who are starting to experiment with one substance or another. But that’s besides the point, I do read all your warnings and take them into account as much as I am inclined to do so at this moment in time.

I am just a newbie in drugs, especially harder ones but I do believe that serious addiction or other serious consequences happen after a while, 2-3 months of serious (daily?) use. So, again, for now I am looking out for more moderate but immediate bad effects - like appetite decrease, emotional avoidance, narrowing of interests, anxiety increase, sleep disturbance, increase in work and social relationships problems. Things like that.

Meanwhile, what I am doing is old style experimenting in mind altering substances and I do enjoy it very much.
 
No.

Please stop while you are ahead. I've read a few of your posts and it's like I'm watching you fall into a pit from a distance. Crack is essentially an entirely different drug with that ROA. You honestly might as well put a needle in your arm. Ok don't do that, but what I mean is smoking coke will awaken your addiction to previously incomprehensible levels. It's not like other drugs where the difference between smoking and snorting is negligible. Freebasing is another beast and, in terms of addiction, is almost as bad as shooting if not worse. So if sticking a needle in your arm seems like a bad idea, and it is if you were wondering, then it's likely smoking is as well. You won't notice until it is much too late, so don't go there if you know what's good for you. If you absolutely must, there's plenty of teks all across the Internet, including here. Be safe if you are using ether or another flammable solvent.

Deru said:
Yes and no. I was definitely a heroin and cocaine addict, but I rarely ever speedballed in the typical sense. The heroin just ruined the cocaine's full potential for me. It was bizarre, I could typically manage to do like one shot of heroin to start the day (but always IV cocaine first, it was the best shot of the day but also the most painful being in full blown withdrawals...something oddly satisfying about having the control to take away the intensified withdrawals with the soon to follow heroin shot), but then I could go until the next day sometimes without doing more heroin, and just non-stop repetivie cocaine. I'm talking 200+ injections of cocaine per day, it is honestly sickening thinking about, but that's just where it eventually led to for me.

IV cocaine just doesn't become uncomfortable like smoking does, until you reach the overdose spectrum, and you typically lose the ability to hear first where any uncomfortable feelings are probably muted. The overdose spectrum is so small compared to smoking it, I'm not quite sure how to describe it accurately.

I suppose just talking about this, I'm remembering I always had a heroin shot ready to go for when I'd reach overdose spectrum, and there were multiple occasions I had to rush to inject it quickly to come back down.
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That's fucking nuts bro. Doing a shot of coke BEFORE heroin WHILE you're in withdrawal? I don't think I could handle it. And how can you poo-poo a speedball? Away with you heathen! 😆 And 200 shots a day? I couldn't imagine. Seems like you're really trying to convince me how much worse IV coke is. LOL. I believe you!

Either way smoking coke is another road that leads to the same dead end. Not worth it if you have the rare opportunity to choose to avoid this terminal disease. Might be your best bet OP.

My $0.02
 
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